How important is IQ and self awareness?

[Groundhog_Day]

Something I realised about a couple of past members (avaruus and Zanexx) who really affected me, was that they both seemed highly intelligent, self aware and quietly determined/focused.

I really need to ctb, but I have low IQ, low self awareness and am a master procrastinator.

Do you think it is still possible to ctb with low IQ, low self awareness and a procrastinating personality type?

avaruus and Zanexx's goodbye threads:

Goodbye

So, they day has come. My SN came and i just finished rereading punpun yesterday so today is a beautiful day to CTB, haha First of all, i want to thank everyone here. Without this site, I don't think I would have ever even discovered what SN is. So thank you to each and everyone for the...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Leaving tonight

I'm currently eating my (hopefully) last meal -pasta followed by a vegan ice cream sundae- at a jazz bar above a little independent cinema near the location I picked. Today I will start my BBQ probably around 11 o'clock UK time and hope to be dead by the early hours. Within a couple of days my...

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[xinino]

Huh

 

[iloverachel]

I think a combination of those things (low iq, procrastinator, low self awareness) will make ctb more challenging, but definitely not impossible

Best of luck with your plans

 

[Ambivalent1]

Those qualities are of the utmost importance in succeeding at life and at death. There's a reason the common person doesn't ctb. It's because they weren't meant to. The bell curve decides for us. "All hail the magic conch"

 

[Groundhog_Day]

I think a combination of those things (low iq, procrastinator, low self awareness) will make ctb more challenging, but definitely not impossible

Best of luck with your plans

Thanks. Last minute panic was how I motivated myself to do homework etc. and I guess that's how I will ctb too.

I do like the idea of how peaceful the CO tent method Zanexx used, seemed to be. It's just putting the effort in to plan it out properly and not get interrupted. Also overcoming the fear of something going wrong, like knocking the charcoal over, or being left in a vegetative state.

Huh

Sorry if my post doesn't make sense. Like I said, I have low IQ, so that should explain any confusion.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

It's possible but really difficult and more luck based. This is just me but I believe that somebody who has a higher IQ and more self awareness can plan suicide methods better and consider risks that perhaps a low IQ person wouldn't consider. I may be wrong though. However, it is undeniable that suicide methods do require a lot of planning and consideration in order to reduce the chances of failing or getting caught by somebody during the attempt. Oh and of course procrastination doesn't help at all

 

[EvisceratedJester]

First off, someone seeming intelligent doesn't equate to them having a high IQ. There are plenty of things that can make someone seem smarter than they really are, from their demeanor to how they talk and write to just our perception of what we imagine a smart person to be like.

Spoiler: Example of this

As cursed as the video is, his breakdown of that dude's accent helps to showcase where I'm getting at.

At least based off of the two threads you linked, nowhere do I see any mention or implication that have a high IQ. They seem to just be normal goodbye threads.


Secondly, self-awareness and your IQ shouldn't have too much of a bearing on your likelihood to successfully ctb. How likely you are to succeed comes more down to what method you are using, making sure to properly follow the instructions involved in your method, not allowing your SI to act up, and making sure that there is no one around to try and save you. The only thing that may get in the way is procrastination, since the stress that comes from attempting to ctb may one to procrastinate on their attempt. However, there are ways to fight against procrastination, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

5 Ways to Stop Procrastinating

Almost everyone procrastinates. Here is a list of 5 ways to help you stop procrastinating. Written by Dean Bokhari

www.boisestate.edu

 

[purelydaft]

Of course it's possible. Determination grows over time if you truly wish to die. You can also practice exploring your own thoughts and desires, it's not just a card that's dealt at birth. As for the threads you linked, it's only a glimpse into tiny parts of their lives they chose to share, you don't really know what they've been through in their heads to get to that state of determination to go through with their plans. It's something I'd advise everyone to think about when they're comparing themselves to others, in life or death.

I have a lot to say about IQ in general, but I'll refrain not to sound too obtuse. Best of luck to you in whatever you choose to do.

 

[Groundhog_Day]

First off, someone seeming intelligent doesn't equate to them having a high IQ. There are plenty of things that can make someone seem smarter than they really are, from their demeanor to how they talk and write to just our perception of what we imagine a smart person to be like.

Spoiler: Example of this

As cursed as the video is, his breakdown of that dude's accent helps to showcase where I'm getting at.

At least based off of the two threads you linked, nowhere do I see any mention or implication that have a high IQ. They seem to just be normal goodbye threads.


Secondly, self-awareness and your IQ shouldn't have too much of a bearing on your likelihood to successfully ctb. How likely you are to succeed comes more down to what method you are using, making sure to properly follow the instructions involved in your method, not allowing your SI to act up, and making sure that there is no one around to try and save you. The only thing that may get in the way is procrastination, since the stress that comes from attempting to ctb may one to procrastinate on their attempt. However, there are ways to fight against procrastination, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

5 Ways to Stop Procrastinating

Almost everyone procrastinates. Here is a list of 5 ways to help you stop procrastinating. Written by Dean Bokhari

www.boisestate.edu

Thanks for your reply.

I guess IQ is relative, and therefore, for someone with a low IQ, like me, 99% of posters here seem highly intelligent.

With avaruus and Zanexx, it was a sense of intelligence, self awareness and kindness I got from reading almost all of their posts.

I think the low IQ and lack of self awareness makes ctb harder, but probably my biggest problem is I'm not depressed enough. I can still distract myself with certain things, even though it's getting harder. I think both avaruus and Zanexx mentioned they were unable to distract themselves or find joy in life anymore.

Once my life situation gets too difficult, or I can no longer distract myself, I think the pain will get to the point where ctb will just become the obvious and best course of action, and hopefully procrastination will be overcome by the desire to end the pain.