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Maybe this would be better in suicide discussion.
I already posted a thread how this in general happens. And most people didn't really have a clue.
Recently I asked 3 AI chatbots about it. And the answers were quite heterogenous.
I think in fact this process is very individual. I heard social media companies have created legacy accounts. Not sure if legacy is the right word. But it is a passive state of an account to commemorate a person. Without this feature sometimes content of an account of someone dead can pop up in your feed.
The AI chatbots said something that surprised me. That suicide as method is still that stigmatized that the way the person dies is often not stated by the family. In the media you see sometimes when someone commits suicide they say the person died in a very age very surprisingly and without knowledge of a prior health condition. It is loosely translated from German. But there is a code that signals someone committed suicide. However, why is society like that? Why cannot this fact be stated? They want to avoid copy suicides. And respect the feelings of the families. But isn't it a weird world where something like that has to be kept hidden. And if there is such a code what is the benefit of not stating it explicitly? Instead it could even fuel speculations if there is uncertainty. Why should the families be ashamed of that fact? I can understand when a person who commits suicide doesn't want the world to know it was a suicide. But how common is that? Some people on here stated it though.
Recently, I deleted some contacts in my phone. I am not sure how many people would get the news I committed suicide. I could imagine they use the account of my messenger on my phone. Seemignly concerning privacy right this is an invasion that is often condoned. I would not want that some of my enemies got the news. I could imagine that the news would spread likea wildfire. And some people in liked in my self-help groups would share the news with people that had a feud with me.
I think my family would be really unempathtic. I think some would say how could I do something like that to my parents. And my parents would feel very guilty and actually I would destroy their lives. That's for sure. Overall though I think not extremely many would get the news in my case. Especially when I keep deleting contacts out of my phone. I never learned the lesson that someone I knew in real life committed suicide. Maybe there is more silence around that topic than I assume. I think I would pretty much hate my funeral. My relatives would talk shit about me while my friends had to listen to their bullshit. I once talked with a group member in my bipolar self-help group who almost killed himself a couple of times in his life. I cannot find his account anymore. I wonder whether he is dead already. It is unlikely I cannot rule it out. I searched for his name but couldn't find a death notice.
Well now when I think of it. I once was in a clinic where a patient kill themselves. And it was rough when the highest clinic doctor accounced that. All patients and the whole clnic staff had a meeting in the morning. It was very rough for me. But I didn't know that woman. As people on here agreed. Having a station full of acute suicidal people is a recipe for disaster. Especially when something like that happens....the woman who shared a room with her looked really really not well that day....
I already posted a thread how this in general happens. And most people didn't really have a clue.
Recently I asked 3 AI chatbots about it. And the answers were quite heterogenous.
I think in fact this process is very individual. I heard social media companies have created legacy accounts. Not sure if legacy is the right word. But it is a passive state of an account to commemorate a person. Without this feature sometimes content of an account of someone dead can pop up in your feed.
The AI chatbots said something that surprised me. That suicide as method is still that stigmatized that the way the person dies is often not stated by the family. In the media you see sometimes when someone commits suicide they say the person died in a very age very surprisingly and without knowledge of a prior health condition. It is loosely translated from German. But there is a code that signals someone committed suicide. However, why is society like that? Why cannot this fact be stated? They want to avoid copy suicides. And respect the feelings of the families. But isn't it a weird world where something like that has to be kept hidden. And if there is such a code what is the benefit of not stating it explicitly? Instead it could even fuel speculations if there is uncertainty. Why should the families be ashamed of that fact? I can understand when a person who commits suicide doesn't want the world to know it was a suicide. But how common is that? Some people on here stated it though.
Recently, I deleted some contacts in my phone. I am not sure how many people would get the news I committed suicide. I could imagine they use the account of my messenger on my phone. Seemignly concerning privacy right this is an invasion that is often condoned. I would not want that some of my enemies got the news. I could imagine that the news would spread likea wildfire. And some people in liked in my self-help groups would share the news with people that had a feud with me.
I think my family would be really unempathtic. I think some would say how could I do something like that to my parents. And my parents would feel very guilty and actually I would destroy their lives. That's for sure. Overall though I think not extremely many would get the news in my case. Especially when I keep deleting contacts out of my phone. I never learned the lesson that someone I knew in real life committed suicide. Maybe there is more silence around that topic than I assume. I think I would pretty much hate my funeral. My relatives would talk shit about me while my friends had to listen to their bullshit. I once talked with a group member in my bipolar self-help group who almost killed himself a couple of times in his life. I cannot find his account anymore. I wonder whether he is dead already. It is unlikely I cannot rule it out. I searched for his name but couldn't find a death notice.
Well now when I think of it. I once was in a clinic where a patient kill themselves. And it was rough when the highest clinic doctor accounced that. All patients and the whole clnic staff had a meeting in the morning. It was very rough for me. But I didn't know that woman. As people on here agreed. Having a station full of acute suicidal people is a recipe for disaster. Especially when something like that happens....the woman who shared a room with her looked really really not well that day....