Discussion How do we know about the users that commited ctb?

[Nx7]

My question is simple. How do we know if a user CTB or not ? Is there a way of knowing or is it just speculative ?

I am not trying to disrespect anyone - I am just merely curious about it

 

[flower_g1rl]

if its in the news, how else? +if an irl friend of theirs/family member is or gets on the forum to tell us

 

[SilentSadness]

Sometimes they make a "goodbye post" which explains the method they're using and maybe why they chose to ctb.

 

[Falling Slowly]

My question is simple. How do we know if a user CTB or not ? Is there a way of knowing or is it just speculative ?

I am not trying to disrespect anyone - I am just merely curious about it

Sometimes people hear about it, sometimes it's speculation. People have sometimes tried to list people who have ctb'd, like here, but some of it is bound to be speculation.

 

[FuneralCry]

We don't as it's not our business. If someone decides to ctb then that's their personal decision and that should be respected.

 

[Davey40210]

I understand your question. So many people have been hurting on here and I would like to know if they passed, if they suffered, and if they found peace. But we can't know.

I myself promise that if you dont hear from me for a while it will mean I am gone. Otherwise I will post to say that I've given life another chance.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Sometimes they make a "goodbye post" which explains the method they're using and maybe why they chose to ctb.

That's not proof of ctb.

I was only ever able to verify one ctb. In her procedure/goodbye thread, there was enough info to determine her location, at least close enough. I kept searching over the next week and found a news story about her CO suicide that matched what had occured in the thread (it was a long thread because she needed technical help with her method, and all the help was being provided to her "live", on the spot).

 

[SoulWhisperer]

I have no idea how a post from 2023 emerged but seeing crossed names made me shed a tear... </3

 

[CatLvr]

I have no idea how a post from 2023 emerged but seeing crossed names made me shed a tear... </3

Yeah, causes me to choke up a little, also.

 

[merc5361]

That's not proof of ctb.

I was only ever able to verify one ctb. In her procedure/goodbye thread, there was enough info to determine her location, at least close enough. I kept searching over the next week and found a news story about her CO suicide that matched what had occured in the thread (it was a long thread because she needed technical help with her method, and all the help was being provided to her "live", on the spot).

Can you link the thread please? I might also choose this method

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Can you link the thread please? I might also choose this method

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/leaving-tonight.3163/

 

[willitpass]

Some people are found in the news in stories about SS. Other people manage to do some sleuthing and find obituaries or news stories about suicides that line up with a users goodbye thread and appear to be the person. Some people have become close friends with users on here and give someone their name, who can the. look up their obit (personally wouldn't recommend doing this as there are far too many risks, but to each their own). Otherwise, it is pure speculation. There are many people on here who make a goodbye thread and are never heard from again. One can only gather that it's likely the CTB. It's not fool proof, however, as I myself made a goodbye thread is 2020 and didn't come back online for almost a year. I was thought to be dead but was actually in a psych ward for 8 months and spent a few months in recovery before coming back.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Some users end up giving a lot of information about themselves which gets used to identify them. Otherwise, it's just speculation. We can't look at a goodbye thread and say for sure that person killed themselves. Honestly, what scares me is thinking about the number of goodbye threads where somebody intended to kill themselves but actually failed the attempt and is unable to post on SS due to being a vegetable.

I was thought to be dead but was actually in a psych ward for 8 months and spent a few months in recovery before coming back.

Being in a psych ward for 8 months is actually insane wow. That sounds like massive torture. How did you even manage to stay in a psych ward for 8 months!? I thought that they would release the suicidal person after 3 weeks or at least after a week. Also, out of curiosity, when you first posted on SS after that goodbye thread, did any users get shocked at you coming back?

 

[willitpass]

Being in a psych ward for 8 months is actually insane wow. That sounds like massive torture. How did you even manage to stay in a psych ward for 8 months!? I thought that they would release the suicidal person after 3 weeks or at least after a week. Also, out of curiosity, when you first posted on SS after that goodbye thread, did any users get shocked at you coming back?

If you're still deemed a threat to yourself they can extend it indefinitely. I wasn't exactly a model patient to convince them I was ready to go home. Telling them I was going to kill myself as soon as I got out for the first 6 months as well as attempting multiple times while there didn't exactly help my case. Honestly I forget all of the logistics of how it happened, it's been awhile and a lot has happened since. Yes, when I first came back the people who remembered me were shocked. The worst was reading all the replies to my goodbye thread and it had devolved into people speculating that I had faked the attempt, which after how traumatic it was and still is to look back on was very hurtful.