M

MicropBaldCurrycel

Specialist
Dec 29, 2021
314
So im basically a useless NEET and a hikikomori I have all the time in the world.

Since i have no practical skills since im useless with my hands ( cant even tie a knot or make a bed properly) i thought why not try programming( basically i live on the computer)

Im also Useless at drawing and art , so please can you recommend something that requires minimal or no design?

Do you recommend web or app dev?

Do you recommend CS50? or Angela Yu udemy Web dev boot camp or any other online free or cheap resources?

im not working so cant pay.

I may not make it but its worth a try since i have literally nothing to lose.

thank you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cathy Ames, artificial_ineptness, Niko66 and 1 other person
Niko66

Niko66

Specialist
Dec 6, 2021
352
Bear in mind that I am not an actual developer lol, I just have a bit of studies and also planning to switch to programming if I get that far in life... And happen to be suicidal and here to answer this.

I'd advise starting with web development, meaning learning some html, css first. It's a lot more digestible than jumping into other languages first.

As for Udemy courses I only tried Colt Steele's web dev boot camp and while I can't say it'll get you a job if you finish it (not even there myself, too depressed etc, so take everything with a grain of salt) I would still say it's perfectly functional and would recommend it to anyone if they wanted to get started somewhere.
 
  • Like
Reactions: artificial_ineptness, whatevs and DynamicDepression
whatevs

whatevs

Mining for copium in the weirdest places.
Jan 15, 2022
2,914
I was a NEET too, because of physical and mental illness. What I did in 2019, and I think I might get a job soon:

I started that summer (without finishing), this course on freecodecamp: https://www.freecodecamp.org/learn/scientific-computing-with-python/ 1*

I went into a govt study program to get the fastest certification you can get in the country for this line of work. It´s two years, and you are less than the college people but you dodge the maths and pedantic, useless crap they have to go through, plus 2 years gained. There´s plenty of people that don´t study officially and get work, but the main thing with this would be connections. With this course I am guaranteed access to local startups and companies, which is why I am now in one as an intern.

I also went to class to socialize a little, since I am a friendless, chronically ill incel. It was overall an enjoyable experience, particularly the first year, when I had more in common with people and I hadn´t lost most of my illusions of having a place in the world. I still prefer programming to laying bricks or staying in my parent´s home arguing with people online and masturbating. 3*

So I don´t recommend learning on your own, as a hiki or NEET you will benefit from structured, socialized learning. But you can do it. And the best way to learn is to start something that you really feel motivated towards, and try to simplify your goals and finish it. I started a JavaScript game in 2021 of Bill Gates throwing vaccines at people (lmao) and it looked pretty good but I had to concentrate on my studies. But you will learn a lot with personal projects like that.

// CAVEATS
1* I have to say that if you go and study on a govt sanctioned program you won´t find teachers like this. Expect the worst, Kafkaesque, subhuman creatures that should be flogged and made into fertilizer.

2* This goes into an important caveat in programming. You need to be ready to do everything on your own, learn and everything expecting little guidance and help from physical people (I say physical people because you will be copying from stackoverflow and tutorials as much code as you can, at least as a beginner, I assume). There´s plenty of help online, but teachers and coworkers won´t be a significant part of the help. It´s a lonely job in that sense.

3* Use the first course that you enrol to online (I like the one I provided) to discern wether you love programming, you don´t really like it or you hate it. If you don´t feel like you love it at first, I wouldn´t recommend trying to get into the field. It´s stressful and full of insecure, arrogant males keen at shining at the expense of your 'incompetence'. You have to enjoy programming, because you won´t always enjoy working with other programmers.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
  • Informative
Reactions: artificial_ineptness, Cathy Ames and Niko66
M

MicropBaldCurrycel

Specialist
Dec 29, 2021
314
Bear in mind that I am not an actual developer lol, I just have a bit of studies and also planning to switch to programming if I get that far in life... And happen to be suicidal and here to answer this.

I'd advise starting with web development, meaning learning some html, css first. It's a lot more digestible than jumping into other languages first.

As for Udemy courses I only tried Colt Steele's web dev boot camp and while I can't say it'll get you a job if you finish it (not even there myself, too depressed etc, so take everything with a grain of salt) I would still say it's perfectly functional and would recommend it to anyone if they wanted to get started somewhere.
Hmmm ok thank u friend il start with web dev. I have heard about Colt Steeles course as well!!

Wow thank you i just checked it out and im gonna save that! its very good and reddit says the teacher has a good teaching style.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Niko66 and whatevs
Niko66

Niko66

Specialist
Dec 6, 2021
352
Hmmm ok thank u friend il start with web dev. I have heard about Colt Steeles course as well!!


Wow thank you i just checked it out and im gonna save that! its very good and reddit says the teacher has a good teaching style.
Best of luck :). I don't know how well this will come off in this type of forum as it's self help, but "Atomic Habits" is in my opinion a great book to help with sticking to habits or goals such as what you are going for, you can find it free easily I am sure.

It's relatively short, easy to read and to the point so it's not much of a pain to read it and personally it's helped me a bit, it touches some self identity issues too, but at the core it's a very practical guide and tips about how to make it easier to stick to something you want to do. Just a thought.
 
M

MicropBaldCurrycel

Specialist
Dec 29, 2021
314
Best of luck :). I don't know how well this will come off in this type of forum as it's self help, but "Atomic Habits" is in my opinion a great book to help with sticking to habits or goals such as what you are going for, you can find it free easily I am sure.

It's relatively short, easy to read and to the point so it's not much of a pain to read it and personally it's helped me a bit, it touches some self identity issues too, but at the core it's a very practical guide and tips about how to make it easier to stick to something you want to do. Just a thought.
thank you for the recommendation, i am indeed very bad at sticking to habits and goals lol/
 
  • Yay!
  • Like
Reactions: whatevs and Niko66
whatevs

whatevs

Mining for copium in the weirdest places.
Jan 15, 2022
2,914
thank you for the recommendation, i am indeed very bad at sticking to habits and goals lol/
Just make sure that you start and finish something that requires days/weeks if you want to try programming. Leaving things unfinished makes you feel like you didn't achieve anything.