Hey guys! What are your thoughts on Voluntarily Stopping Eating and Drinking (VSED)

[wildflowercloud]

Heya guys! Long time no see!

We're still kickin' but only just, when we have posted on here we have been in a very dark space, and knew it probably could get worse but didn't know how, but damn. It got WORSE. Like, worse worse. I don't know how we're still keeping on but we can't fucking take it anymore. CTB seems to be right there in front of us and we will be brave enough to say yes, and carry it out and complete it. We will be. Just have to stick around for a little longer, for now.
Anyway that's our update!

Now, about VSED, does anyone have any thoughts on it as a method? Is it possible to do at home without care? Stuff like that. We've read that it's a natural way to die and we really like that.

Thank you for reading!

 

[dggtscccvfd]

Heya guys! Long time no see!

We're still kickin' but only just, when we have posted on here we have been in a very dark space, and knew it probably could get worse but didn't know how, but damn. It got WORSE. Like, worse worse. I don't know how we're still keeping on but we can't fucking take it anymore. CTB seems to be right there in front of us and we will be brave enough to say yes, and carry it out and complete it. We will be. Just have to stick around for a little longer, for now.
Anyway that's our update!

Now, about VSED, does anyone have any thoughts on it as a method? Is it possible to do at home without care? Stuff like that. We've read that it's a natural way to die and we really like that.

Thank you for reading!

VSED is exceptionally difficult. Most people who try, including those from this forum, fail. 3-7 days in and they're gagging for water and give in. Sadly, VSED is anything but natural, it requires an immense amount of self-discipline.

 

[Forest Fire]

Hey, this method will be extremely painful if you choose to do it. I accidently ended up in this situation a few years ago and despite having not eating as my chosen sh method i would never choose to ctb this way. Its genuinely horrific and is a drawn out process with the list of symptoms you will experience appearing to be never ending.
I was only able to 'push through' as long as i did as i was already mentally a vegetable from insomnia induced psychosis.
I also have permanent diagnosed physical problems and undiagnosed mental ones from this ordeal. I've seen people mention on here before that they believe this method is reversable if you back out but that wasn't the case for me

Just to add as well, the hunger and thirst cravings do go eventually but they get replaced by worse pain so it doesn't end up providing any relief as you end up 'going mad' over something else

 

[wildflowercloud]

VSED is exceptionally difficult. Most people who try, including those from this forum, fail. 3-7 days in and they're gagging for water and give in. Sadly, VSED is anything but natural, it requires an immense amount of self-discipline.

Oof, that does not sound comfortable. I think the searches I did were more pro-vsed possibly.
Thank you so much for letting us know!

 

[Forveleth]

Quite a few threads on this. Most of them saying it is very difficult and from people who have tried and journaled their tries I haven't seen a success.

 

[wildflowercloud]

Hey, this method will be extremely painful if you choose to do it. I accidently ended up in this situation a few years ago and despite having not eating as my chosen sh method i would never choose to ctb this way. Its genuinely horrific and is a drawn out process with the list of symptoms you will experience appearing to be never ending.
I was only able to 'push through' as long as i did as i was already mentally a vegetable from insomnia induced psychosis.
I also have permanent diagnosed physical problems and undiagnosed mental ones from this ordeal. I've seen people mention on here before that they believe this method is reversable if you back out but that wasn't the case for me

Just to add as well, the hunger and thirst cravings do go eventually but they get replaced by worse pain so it doesn't end up providing any relief as you end up 'going mad' over something else

Oh wow. Thank you so, so much for telling me this, I really really appeciate it! It's important to know the realities of these things. I'm so sorry you went through all of that, that sounds so traumatic and so scary. I do hope you're doing a little better now, but I know being on this site is a big sign in itself that you're struggling, but I do still hope! Thank you so much for your help

 

[LevUwU]

do. not. try. it.

whoever you are. reading this.

dont.

 

[wildflowercloud]

Quite a few threads on this. Most of them saying it is very difficult and from people who have tried and journaled their tries I haven't seen a success.

Thank you for letting me know! Apologies about posting when there are multiple threads on here about this.

do. not. try. it.

whoever you are. reading this.

dont.

That's a definite warning! I will listen to you. Thank you so much

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

Someone on here commented that their father stopped drinking and was successful in 7 days. I don't know if they had any pre-existing health conditions or anything else like, I asked I never got a response from the post author, which is okay because not everybody wants to talk about everything or sees follow-up messages.

I can tell you that my friend's father was completely physically healthy, he was 6'5, worked out every day huge gentle giant, he started to lose his mind, in his very early 60s, he stopped eating, but continued to drink, he did this at his home with the support of his family, and he died within 2.5-3 months.

It's much faster to stop drinking. But people have to be committed. People that aren't serious aren't going to be able to finish the job.

 

[Ash]

From my reading, if you've got an underlying (serious) health condition, or are towards the latter stages of the body's lifespan, then it's feasible with comfort dependent on whether you're sedated/medicated in a hospice, for example. But just doing it with an ordinarily healthy body takes weeks and requires an extraordinary amount of willpower. It's obviously different if you're tied up in an isolated cellar and are left to starve (why yes, I do read a lot of crime novels, why do you ask?), but it's different when you have free choice.

 

[martinso67]

I tried that. But I had to be forced feed by a tube if I did continue. I saw how it well be done, which is torture in my opinion. I don't want to be kept alive in a hospital environment and in that way.
But it's a method which I also like. A rare amount of Hindus who reach the last stage of enlightment do stop eating and drinking. I forget the term but it started with an S.

 

[bookgirl]

Since I suffer from anorexia it won't be a problem for me to avoid eating and drinking

 

[UKscotty]

Hardly anyone in history is successful with this. Even political prisoners crack after a few days.

Most of us can barely keep a diet till the snacks come out, let alone kill ourselves by not drinking or eating.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

It only works if you either keep yourself completely locked up or if you have an insanely unreal amount of discipline. In the latter case, if you really had all that discipline it could be better used to make your life better instead because it would certainly be less painful.

I sort of attempted this when I was in 7th grade. I ran away from home and went to a nearby small forest neighborhood to see if I could die like this. I couldn't last very long though. I thought I'd be fine at night because it was summer but for some reason on my first night I got so cold, my autopilot took over and forced me to journey to the nearest house, knock on their door at 1 am, and beg the family inside for shelter and food. They provided such things for me but they also called the cops on me while I was asleep so I didn't even last a single night out in the wilds.

Even the thought of diet and exercise makes my body indescribably ravenous. It truly is impossible for me to overcome my needs so I don't recommend this method for anyone else if they can't handle it.

 

[Forest Fire]

Oh wow. Thank you so, so much for telling me this, I really really appeciate it! It's important to know the realities of these things. I'm so sorry you went through all of that, that sounds so traumatic and so scary. I do hope you're doing a little better now, but I know being on this site is a big sign in itself that you're struggling, but I do still hope! Thank you so much for your help

Yes i am a little bit better than that part of my life thankyou. You're right though that i'm not doing well which is why i'm on here and i'm sorry you or anyone reading this are struggling enough to be on this site too.
I'm glad what i wrote was of some use to you and if you want to know anything more specific then just ask

 

[momento.mori]

It's a miserable and longer death than you'd think. Your body could last up to 2 weeks! A key you're closer to death is when you completely stop urinating, your mouth is so dry that it hurts to swallow, and you're completely miserable. I would rethink another method

 

[Linda]

You probably wont be able to go without drinking for very long. You will be able to go without eating, but it takes 6 - 8 weeks to die from starvation. Towards the end of that priod you would be too weak to resist anyone who wanted to "save" you. So it's a difficult method. Not impossible, but difficult.
If you want to die from thirst, your best option would be to go for a long walk in a desert region in very hot summer weather.

 

[Abyssal]

My thoughts?

1. This is a common enough method to have an acronym?
2. Bad idea, rarely succeeds, failure often leads to more emotional pain
3. Why would you choose a method so agonizing? Even if you succeed it's going to be torture.

 

[Jorms_McGander]

I tried that. But I had to be forced feed by a tube if I did continue. I saw how it well be done, which is torture in my opinion. I don't want to be kept alive in a hospital environment and in that way.
But it's a method which I also like. A rare amount of Hindus who reach the last stage of enlightment do stop eating and drinking. I forget the term but it started with an S.

They're Jains; I hesitate to identify with that. It takes years of meditation to do it acceptably and it's not done by young people. I hesitate because I don't want to cheapen their discipline and it is already under scrutiny and illegal in their homeland as a religious practice.

 

[Erick]

VSED is exceptionally difficult. Most people who try, including those from this forum, fail. 3-7 days in and they're gagging for water and give in. Sadly, VSED is anything but natural, it requires an immense amount of self-discipline.

3-7 days without water? Just a few hours without water ruined my life forever.
VSED is the stupidest method ever

 

[Saitama2]

It would be perfect if it wasn't for the horrible symptoms

 

[MortalVictim]

Personally, it's a good method in my opinion. You can do other things while starving and dying of thirst. It is also rebellious. Monks do it to transcend. Yuka Takaoka is another person who (probably) used this method, after laying in bed. People complaining about this method are somewhat craven. Just requires patience, and is one of the more lively means, (as in it takes longer so you have longer to contemplate all the failures in your miserable life). I'd do it over a lot of other ways. Especially considering consuming anything is more or less disgusting without exception. If you want to get it over with, and your suicidal episodes are more impulsive though, then maybe just go for jumping off a building or reaching for a gun should your home have one in it.

 

[F@#$]

My fat drunk ass wouldn't make it a day.

 

[kilowatt]

I think it's common sense you won't succeed unless you have a kind of illness to rapidly accelerate the process. It's more than just willpower. Your body does not function without its basic needs, therefore cravings turn into SI. Not to mention how it's a straight up torture method and if you somehow make it to 2 weeks you will be in agonizing pain, barely being able to walk, tho most people give in after 3-5 days. As someone that has reached past the 2 weeks milestone (but not for CTB matters) it is not worth attempting.

 

[notevenhere]

I don't know... you don't die that easily. I have an eating disorder and has been on certain forums where people have anorexia and they can go up to six months without being hospitalized. I don't think you can last a month without wanting a sip of water. Also, you can induce a psychosis if you're deprived of anything for a long time. Even if you sleep it off, you'll wake up, confused, wondering if this is even your reality. Don't deprive your mind and body of sustenance like that...

 

[willitpass]

Personally, it's a good method in my opinion. You can do other things while starving and dying of thirst. It is also rebellious. Monks do it to transcend. Yuka Takaoka is another person who (probably) used this method, after laying in bed. People complaining about this method are somewhat craven. Just requires patience, and is one of the more lively means, (as in it takes longer so you have longer to contemplate all the failures in your miserable life). I'd do it over a lot of other ways. Especially considering consuming anything is more or less disgusting without exception. If you want to get it over with, and your suicidal episodes are more impulsive though, then maybe just go for jumping off a building or reaching for a gun should your home have one in it.

As someone who has attempted this, I think you can call us craven after you try it. Even the most suicidal person in the world will struggle once they reach 3-5 days of not a single drop of water. Humans are not made for that. It goes against every morsel of human nature to deprive yourself of any sustenance at all. You think you have the strength to do it until you're almost a week in and something ravenous takes over. It's no longer you, it's some primal instinct doing whatever it takes to get something in you.

 

[MortalVictim]

As someone who has attempted this, I think you can call us craven after you try it. Even the most suicidal person in the world will struggle once they reach 3-5 days of not a single drop of water. Humans are not made for that. It goes against every morsel of human nature to deprive yourself of any sustenance at all. You think you have the strength to do it until you're almost a week in and something ravenous takes over. It's no longer you, it's some primal instinct doing whatever it takes to get something in you.

Well it's nice to hear from someone who's done it then. I understand. I'd have to attempt it myself in order to actually know. Statistically speaking, I do suppose it goes against survival instincts heavily, so would serve as a battle of endurance and attrition even more so than a lot of other hypothetical ways.

 

[PINKIESISU]

Heya guys! Long time no see!

We're still kickin' but only just, when we have posted on here we have been in a very dark space, and knew it probably could get worse but didn't know how, but damn. It got WORSE. Like, worse worse. I don't know how we're still keeping on but we can't fucking take it anymore. CTB seems to be right there in front of us and we will be brave enough to say yes, and carry it out and complete it. We will be. Just have to stick around for a little longer, for now.
Anyway that's our update!

Now, about VSED, does anyone have any thoughts on it as a method? Is it possible to do at home without care? Stuff like that. We've read that it's a natural way to die and we really like that.

Thank you for reading!

I tried doing that shit I couldn't do it really really hard it was a lot easier for me to take a whole bunch of sleeping pills but all that did was make me feel really really fucked up which is weird with alcohol for the next couple of days I can barely put any thoughts together and had a very upset stomach which I was hoping would kill me obviously it didn't the really weird part was how it didn't make me tired at all fucking stupid

 

[Unicr0n]

They're Jains; I hesitate to identify with that. It takes years of meditation to do it acceptably and it's not done by young people. I hesitate because I don't want to cheapen their discipline and it is already under scrutiny and illegal in their homeland as a religious practice.

Jains, Buddhists, and Hindus. It's also done with the aid of others. You don't stop eating and drinking completely. You continue to eat and drink specific foods that help deplete fat reserves. Then you are given water by monks as you're immobile on a bed, unable to move. This process can take months to years. Sallekhana is done only by those who are physically disabled and unable to attend to their religious vows due to the disability.