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Should I, before I would ever finalise catching the bus, take 5g+ of mushrooms to maybe change my opinion or give me a second outlook/ see what value life still holds?

Or will I just get psychosis?
 
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I personally wouldn't try a super high dosage of shrooms like that but I might try a tiny, tiny dose sometime just to see how I feel. Overdoing it could be a very bad thing so I would suggest being very careful with them. Whether you do it or not, I do hope your life has some value for you still.
 
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this is probably a bad idea gang
 
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It could be good or bad, who knows. I recently took three grams and I didn't get anything out of it. I guess my brain's to screwed up.
 
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Set and setting is the rule for psychedelics. Having a bad mindset going into it sounds like a disaster. If you insist on doing this, try having a trusted friend trip sit you, and have a plan for if things go south.
 
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never mind me

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If you try mushrooms don't take as much as 5g, such high doses are hard to handle even for experienced psychonnauts. While mushrooms have helped me a lot to deal with my mental problems, I would advice small to moderate doses. If you have never taken shroom before start with a small dose to see how it feels. Then you can still do a normal dose. If you have previous experience with shrooms you can take a moderate dose. And I wouldn't say that you can't do it, if you are in a bad mood. But be careful to at least have a good place for your trip, so you can still feel good while on shrooms. But it also depends what is causing your bad mindset. When I took psychedelics (shrooms and LSD) and was in a bad mindset it was because of past trauma, but my current life was ok. In these situations LSD and mushrooms actually helped me to get better.
 
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Have you thought about trying ketamine treatment? Supposedly its good for breaking negative thought patterns. I don't know much about it just that its new and seemingly popular. Thinking about trying it if I can save up the money.
 
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Do you know what kind of mushrooms you have?
Also, there is a study about how psilocybin works on suicidal ppl

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/42138588/
**highlights: Suicidal thoughts dropped significantly in one week; Improvement didn't fade even 12 weeks later; By the end of the 12 weeks, 7 out of 10 people had suicidal thought scores so low they were considered no longer at high risk

If you have good source of it, why not play with it a little before ctb? You either get better or get back to where you were in first place.
 
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Should I, before I would ever finalise catching the bus, take 5g+ of mushrooms to maybe change my opinion or give me a second outlook/ see what value life still holds?

Or will I just get psychosis?
You're already in a bad mindset and would likely have a bad trip, and you'd likely end up with significant distress at that dose alone having panic attacks or warrant a hospital visit. I'd microdose or lower it to a gram- 2.5. And if you're around others that would help with the outcome of the trip, to have someone sit for you.
 
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Should I, before I would ever finalise catching the bus, take 5g+ of mushrooms to maybe change my opinion or give me a second outlook/ see what value life still holds?

Or will I just get psychosis?
what's your prior experience with shrooms? taking a much higher dose than you're used to, when you are not in a good place mentally, would result in a bad trip for most people.

what are your plans/intentions as to set and setting?

if you're new to shrooms i'd say take 1-2g to figure out what your tolerance is and what you can handle, everyone has a different reaction to different amounts. if you're used to shrooms then take a bit more than you've taken before.

for myself i can handle 2-3g but after that it starts becoming too much to handle. and i always have trazodone on hand as a trip killer, so if the trip gets really bad i can stop it.
 
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i always have trazodone on hand as a trip killer, so if the trip gets really bad i can stop it.

I read that trazodone is a SARI. Do you know if an SSRI [like citalopram] would tone down the trip as well?
 
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50/50

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If you try mushrooms don't take as much as 5g, such high doses are hard to handle even for experienced psychonnauts. While mushrooms have helped me a lot to deal with my mental problems, I would advice small to moderate doses. If you have never taken shroom before start with a small dose to see how it feels. Then you can still do a normal dose. If you have previous experience with shrooms you can take a moderate dose. And I wouldn't say that you can't do it, if you are in a bad mood. But be careful to at least have a good place for your trip, so you can still feel good while on shrooms. But it also depends what is causing your bad mindset. When I took psychedelics (shrooms and LSD) and was in a bad mindset it was because of past trauma, but my current life was ok. In these situations LSD and mushrooms actually helped me to get better.
Do you know what kind of mushrooms you have?
Also, there is a study about how psilocybin works on suicidal ppl

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/42138588/
**highlights: Suicidal thoughts dropped significantly in one week; Improvement didn't fade even 12 weeks later; By the end of the 12 weeks, 7 out of 10 people had suicidal thought scores so low they were considered no longer at high risk

If you have good source of it, why not play with it a little before ctb? You either get better or get back to where you were in first place.
You're already in a bad mindset and would likely have a bad trip, and you'd likely end up with significant distress at that dose alone having panic attacks or warrant a hospital visit. I'd microdose or lower it to a gram- 2.5. And if you're around others that would help with the outcome of the trip, to have someone sit for you.
what's your prior experience with shrooms? taking a much higher dose than you're used to, when you are not in a good place mentally, would result in a bad trip for most people.

what are your plans/intentions as to set and setting?

if you're new to shrooms i'd say take 1-2g to figure out what your tolerance is and what you can handle, everyone has a different reaction to different amounts. if you're used to shrooms then take a bit more than you've taken before.

for myself i can handle 2-3g but after that it starts becoming too much to handle. and i always have trazodone on hand as a trip killer, so if the trip gets really bad i can stop it.


Thank you for your answers guys, appreciate it

i should have specified further:

I have taken doses up to 2.5grams around 7 times i would guess

So im not a complete beginner

I just want so sit down in a forest and take a paper with me to take some notes on how to figure my life out
Do you know what kind of mushrooms you have?
Makilla Gorilla
Have you thought about trying ketamine treatment? Supposedly its good for breaking negative thought patterns. I don't know much about it just that its new and seemingly popular. Thinking about trying it if I can save up the money.
I have tried it multiple times

Never lowered suicidal thoughts or negative thought loops for me unfortunately

But also i have done it only recreationally not in a therapeutic setting, maybe thats why
 
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bagel12

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I read that trazodone is a SARI. Do you know if an SSRI [like citalopram] would tone down the trip as well?
this is a good question! it helps to spell out the acronym--as you said, citalopram is an SSRI, which stands for "selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor," while trazodone is an SARI, which stands for "serotonin antagonist and reuptake inhibitor".

the "serotonin reuptake inhibitor" part means that both SSRIs and SARIs block neurons from reabsorbing serotonin. the "serotonin antagonist" part means that SARIs, such as trazodone, additionally block certain types of serotonin receptors (but as a class, SSRIs don't).

scientists believe that psychedelics have hallucinogenic effects in part because they activate a certain type of serotonin receptor, called 5-HT2A receptors. remember how trazodone blocks certain types of serotonin receptors? it turns out that trazodone blocks 5-HT2A receptors, that's why it's an effective trip killer :) however, SSRIs generally do not block 5-HT2A receptors, so they are not known to be effective trip killers. that being said, people on SSRIs tend to have less intense trips, probably because SSRIs can desensitize serotonin receptors over time. but it depends on the specific type of psychedelic and the specific medication.

there are other trip killers, but in my experience, trazodone is the best one for me because it's effective, it's safer than other options, it's easy to get, and it's not addictive.

anyone who takes a daily medication should check for drug interactions between their meds and the psychedelic they want to take. if you plan to have trip killers on hand, you should also check for drug interactions between your meds and whichever trip killer you're considering. one rare but serious effect to look out for is serotonin syndrome, here's how to gauge your risk.

i'm not sure if i explained it well, but i hope this helps somewhat! :)
 
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luj.qwerty_2001

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That's informative!
Thanks for taking the time to reply. Appreciate it!
I wouldn't even guess to type "trip killer" into Wiki ;D
 
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Should I, before I would ever finalise catching the bus, take 5g+ of mushrooms to maybe change my opinion or give me a second outlook/ see what value life still holds?

Or will I just get psychosis?
According to my toaster, the answer is "Possibly Yes."
 
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Thank you for your answers guys, appreciate it

i should have specified further:

I have taken doses up to 2.5grams around 7 times i would guess

So im not a complete beginner

I just want so sit down in a forest and take a paper with me to take some notes on how to figure my life out

Makilla Gorilla

I have tried it multiple times

Never lowered suicidal thoughts or negative thought loops for me unfortunately

But also i have done it only recreationally not in a therapeutic setting, maybe thats why

the forest sounds nice :)

have you taken 2.5g of makilla gorilla before? or was it a different strain? (my understanding is that makilla gorilla is pretty strong since it's a penis envy hybrid)

since you're planning on a very high dose, have you thought about what you'll do if it turns into a bad trip? for example, some people like to have trip killers on hand, or they like to have a trip sitter. (i always do both of these things if im taking a higher dose or stronger strain)
 
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the forest sounds nice :)

have you taken 2.5g of makilla gorilla before? or was it a different strain? (my understanding is that makilla gorilla is pretty strong since it's a penis envy hybrid)

since you're planning on a very high dose, have you thought about what you'll do if it turns into a bad trip? for example, some people like to have trip killers on hand, or they like to have a trip sitter. (i always do both of these things if im taking a higher dose or stronger strain)
yes it always was the same strain

and yes i probably should order some kind of trip killer, what would you suggest? benzos?
 
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bagel12

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yes it always was the same strain

large increases in dosage also increase the risk of a bad trip, especially if you're in a mental state where you want to ctb. if the highest dose i'd had was 2.5g, i would do 3-3.5g this time. if i didn't get the experience i wanted, i would trip again 2 months later and increase the dose by 0.5-1g. imo this approach helps achieve more profound trips while reducing the risk of a psychologically destabilizing bad trip, but i'm no expert, just a random person online. note that 5+ g is considered a heroic dose for golden teachers, but penis envy and makilla gorilla is stronger, so a heroic dose may be lower in your case.

90% of the realizations will be inside your mind, not things you write down or record yourself saying aloud. this is why doing proper integration after the experience is important, so that the lessons stay with you. if you haven't done so already, it's a good idea to read up on integration

and yes i probably should order some kind of trip killer, what would you suggest? benzos?

psychedelics have hallucinogenic effects because they activate a specific type of serotonin receptor called the 5-HT2A receptors. the most effective trip killers are medications that block the 5-HT2A receptors without many side effects, such as trazodone and atypical (aka second generation) antipsychotics. if those aren't options for you, then benzos would be the next best option. they don't block 5-HT2A receptors, so they don't fully stop the psychedelic effects, but they do stop the panic of a bad trip.

50-100mg trazodone is the best trip killer imo since it is safe, easy to get, and not addictive. 50mg trazodone fixes my bad trips in under 30 minutes, it stops both the hallucinations and the anxiety/paranoia. it will make you sleepy but you can function as normal. 100mg works faster, but you'll be more sleepy. the only side effect i get is a stuffy nose, i just breathe with my mouth until it wears off. in my country it is easy to get trazodone prescribed for insomnia, depression, or anxiety, either from a real doctor or one of those online doctor websites. if this isn't possible, you could buy it online from an overseas pharmacy, although sometimes they rip you off or give you the wrong product.

a small dose of seroquel (quetiapine) is another good option, like 25-50mg. or a small dose of some other atypical (aka second gen) antipsychotic like risperidone or olanzapine. small doses are effective for this purpose. larger doses may cause side effects, so be mindful of that if you go over 100mg of quetiapine for example. similar to trazodone, it stops both the hallucinations and the anxiety/paranoia. this will make you pretty sleepy. it's more difficult to get atypical antipsychotics prescribed compared to trazodone, but overseas pharmacies are an option. however, typical (aka first gen) antipsychotics are not a good option. they don't work well because they don't block the 5-HT2A receptors and they also have worse side effects.

personally i avoid benzos because i have addictive tendencies, and because there are lots of fake xans around in my country. benzos don't block the 5-HT2A receptors, so they will get rid of the panic and make you sleepy, but they probably won't stop the trip entirely. if you choose benzos, try to get them prescribed by a doctor. if you can't get them prescribed, test them to be safe: here are some websites that sell test kits. if you struggle with addiction or have a family history of addiction, don't choose benzos.

last thing: if you take daily medication, check for drug interations between your medication and the trip killer you plan to buy. for example, sometimes serotonin syndrome is a concern, here's a guide on how to gauge the risk.
 
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