Discussion Hard pill to swallow but some of you need to hear it- SI is no excuse for neglecting/abusing/mistreating living beings, or an excuse to do nothing

[Quantum_Marten0302]

I dont need an excuse. if i followed your religion then your text would be helpful, but i dont

 

[bugfart]

I dont follow any religion either, how's that relevant?

I dont need an excuse. if i followed your religion then your text would be helpful, but i dont

 

[merlinscries]

i think I actually kind of agree with you. now, part of the reason I feel suicidal is because I am aware of my disabilities and limitations and they make me feel useless. I think feeling useful is actually a valid need of most, if not all (human) beings. I actually want to work and be useful, but it is hard to tell what I am capable of except wording and expressing myself. I can walk, talk, see, hear and formally I even have a high school diploma and I EVEN ATTEMPTED university so I am probably not completely stupid or incapable. But my capacity to do things wildly fluctuates due to my executive dysfunction and burn out. I also suffer from skill regression. The kind of effort it takes to even get up every morning is gigantinormous, and I struggle to do basic chores most of the time. I am an awful worker.

It is not everybodies choice to be a "useless leech" on society, and the shame and the guilt that potentially comes with it can be a problem on its own. Plus like I said it can also be a need. I'd love to be useful, functional and reduce the overall suffering of humanity. But "God" gifted me with a torture chamber of a body that refuses to work even in the case of fulfilling my own needs, let alone that of others.

I am not very well versed in politics, but I have read that disabilities are often actually quite neglected even in political theory. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Alpacachino]

I agree with the original post. If you don't work, you'll only end up making life even worse than it is. If you don't study, you'll spoil your future and You won't have the opportunity or the ability to get a decent job later on. Unfortunately, there are many people who do this and they also regret it later on.

And of course, I'll never understand why people have children or pets in the 1st place if they're so depressed or suicidal.

 

[Shiitake]

I dont follow any religion either, how's that relevant?

think its symbolic that you worship life or something idk.

 

[deadanddecomposing]

even at my worst, i never neglected my pets. they didn't ask to be pets and I'm all they have. To get a pet is to take on a responsibility and they shouldn't have to suffer or (chas vshalom/god forbid) die just because I'm going through something. I'm also just very sensitive to animal abuse, but I genuinely cannot look at someone the same if they neglect their pets. If it gets bad enough where you can't care for them, REHOME THEM. I knew someone with a kind and gentle lovebird and they were struggling with bipolar disorder and would yell at the bird to shut up and never let them out of their cage. It's so upsetting and it makes me have even less faith in humanity that there's nothing I can even do. No one deserves to be abused and abuse isn't okay even when you're really struggling. More on what you were saying, no one asks to be born. Sure, that means you didn't ask to be born and therefore didn't ask for all this responsibility, but that also means others are in the same boat. They didn't ask to be born either and they have to rely on you. Sorry im rambling but neglect makes me feel really sick.

 

[camusfan_ig]

I agree with the original post. If you don't work, you'll only end up making life even worse than it is. If you don't study, you'll spoil your future and You won't have the opportunity or the ability to get a decent job later on. Unfortunately, there are many people who do this and they also regret it later on.

And of course, I'll never understand why people have children or pets in the 1st place if they're so depressed or suicidal.

I agree. On the pet and children part, I think some ppl still have them cuz they believe it will "fix" how they're feeling, or at the very least make them a bit happier. Sometimes it does, most of the time though, it does not

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

Well then I'm good. Although for me it is quite impossible to work anymore, I did have a job until couple of weeks ago, not that anyone depends on me working, well besides me, but I've got that taken care off. I mean thinking about it more, I have an appeal for disability given my diagnosis but I don't really care anymore, don't even know if it was legal for me to work as I lied and declared that I didn't have mental problems and all that, meh, it's probably fine.

Edit2: no disability would make it worse as I'd only get 100 euros at best when the smallest salary is 500 euros, it will also make it very hard for me to work again having disability that is mental, they can outright deny me, meh, set up for failure, it is what it is.

edit: although for me it's not suicidal ideation but suicidal intention.

 

[bugfart]

i think I actually kind of agree with you. now, part of the reason I feel suicidal is because I am aware of my disabilities and limitations and they make me feel useless. I think feeling useful is actually a valid need of most, if not all (human) beings. I actually want to work and be useful, but it is hard to tell what I am capable of except wording and expressing myself. I can walk, talk, see, hear and formally I even have a high school diploma and I EVEN ATTEMPTED university so I am probably not completely stupid or incapable. But my capacity to do things wildly fluctuates due to my executive dysfunction and burn out. I also suffer from skill regression. The kind of effort it takes to even get up every morning is gigantinormous, and I struggle to do basic chores most of the time. I am an awful worker.

It is not everybodies choice to be a "useless leech" on society, and the shame and the guilt that potentially comes with it can be a problem on its own. Plus like I said it can also be a need. I'd love to be useful, functional and reduce the overall suffering of humanity. But "God" gifted me with a torture chamber of a body that refuses to work even in the case of fulfilling my own needs, let alone that of others.

I am not very well versed in politics, but I have read that disabilities are often actually quite neglected even in political theory. Correct me if I am wrong.

Disabilities are valid and it's not my intention at all to discredit them