Placo

Placo

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Now I will list the various symptoms and the precautions taken to combat them.


Headache: I'm not sure if it will occur because in the last tests it hasn't happened to me, it occurs with prolonged exposure at medium levels while in the bag the amount of CO2 will rise so quickly that it may not occur, in any case I could take a painkiller.

Dizziness: I'm not sure how to counteract this symptom but I must say that it has never happened to me.

Nausea: it's never happened to me and I'm a bit skeptical that it exists between the symptoms but the AI has listed it and so I put it but in theory I have an OTC drug against it.

Vomiting: in my opinion it doesn't happen even if the AI listed it among the symptoms but I think it's enough to have an empty or light stomach, personally it's never happened and the same OTC drug against nausea can help in case.

Dimmed sight: not a problem.

Reduced hearing: not a problem.

Drowsiness: not a problem.

Agitation: this is one of the biggest problems but I have sedatives to calm it down.

Convulsions: not a problem and clonazepam can help.

Hyperventilation: not a problem.

Cyanosis: not a problem.

Unconsciousness: not a problem.

Death: desired outcome.

Increased blood pressure: not a very big problem and sedatives can help.

Increased or irregular heart rare: not a big problem and sedatives can help.

Dyspnea: not a very big problem and dihydrocodeine can help.

Confusion: not a problem I guess.

Sweating: with this hot summer maybe a problem but don't have any remedy.

Flushed skin: not a problem.

Mild narcosis: not a problem.


These are the symptoms that come to mind so far and they should be almost all of them, you have to keep in mind that they don't necessarily happen all of them and they are not in order of appearance, this method doesn't seem so brutal in the end.

I hope I don't cough during the process although the dihydrocodeine should help with this too, the rush of air from coughing could loosen the bag.
I'm pretty sure nausea and vomiting can be taken off the list, in exchange I would add the feeling of tightness in the chest but that could fall under dyspnea, obviously things like cardiac arrest, coma and irreversible brain damage aren't even worth listing as they are obvious.

I believe brain death and death are synonymous even if the definition of death seems more complex.
 
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Placo

Placo

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I'm thinking of having a song play in the headphones in the choking process to make it more epic, the headphone wire shouldn't cause envelope enlargement issues being very thin, initially I was thinking of something calm, but this song appeals to me, it is particularly striking for its lively rhythm and sad lyrics at the same time, it would be really perfect, otherwise I have to feel my breathing and the envelope contracting and expanding.

 
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Placo

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I'm thinking of having a song play in the headphones in the choking process to make it more epic, the headphone wire shouldn't cause envelope enlargement issues being very thin, initially I was thinking of something calm, but this song appeals to me, it is particularly striking for its lively rhythm and sad lyrics at the same time, it would be really perfect, otherwise I have to feel my breathing and the envelope contracting and expanding.


I'm realizing how something as trivial as this is actually very important in a method that can cause panic like this, I'm leaning towards putting something calm again, a fast-paced song might not be the best and even hearing your breathing getting faster and faster at the beginning might not be the best. Maybe I'll open a separate thread about it.
 
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Placo

Placo

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I'm thinking of something more powerful than benzos to pair with this method, although if the power is too much I risk losing consciousness even before I can prepare the method. In that case I might consider changing the method directly to overdose, although if you overdose more this method is even safer.
 
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I'm thinking of something more powerful than benzos to pair with this method, although if the power is too much I risk losing consciousness even before I can prepare the method. In that case I might consider changing the method directly to overdose, although if you overdose more this method is even safer.
I'm also considering a combination of plastic bag and overdose for many of the same reasons you've listed in this thread (lack of access to more reliable means, drawing attention with tanks and such). May I ask what you are thinking of using for overdose?
 
Placo

Placo

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I'm also considering a combination of plastic bag and overdose for many of the same reasons you've listed in this thread (lack of access to more reliable means, drawing attention with tanks and such). May I ask what you are thinking of using for overdose?
I don't know, I opened a thread asking if anyone has sources for some synthetic opioids, I hope to get some answers.
 
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Placo

Placo

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I was thinking that oxycodone could be an idea but in the end the effects are not much different from benzos, it is probably more likely to give euphoria but I am not particularly interested, in any case if the plan is to die of asphyxiation and not overdose whether it is oxycodone or benzos you must not exaggerate with the dosage, enough to remain calm during the whole thing but not so exaggerated that you cannot even prepare the method, dying only of overdose I see as difficult both with benzos and oxycodone, even if I have some benzos but I do not think I will reach a lethal dose so it would still work in addition to the method as an anti-panic.

One thing I've been thinking about lately is that if for some reason the bag was to loosen when you're in an advanced stage and there's some brain damage, it's a big problem, you have to make sure it's sealed well around your neck, but I think a tight scarf should also do the job, even if once this method actually failed and at a certain point oxygen started to come in again, maybe I need to make a double knot or tighten it more tightly, it is also important to try to move as little as possible.

In any case I think that a note should be written that in case of serious damage but survival to pursue the path of euthanasia or assisted suicide, but this risk applies to all methods in the end.
 
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Themogger

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Why so serious?
Jul 23, 2024
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I've been on this site for a while and I think this is the method I'll go with. Every single method will always have people that complain. Some for good reasons but others just to spread hopelessness. I'm done with all that. If I can increase co2 in the plastic bag to speed up the proces, it won't be a bad idea. There are co2 balloon videos on YouTube, I could take inspiration. My major problem is getting benzo or sedatives of such. Most of them require prescription. I can't figure out away around it. I hope this message can bump the post
 
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Placo

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I've been on this site for a while and I think this is the method I'll go with. Every single method will always have people that complain. Some for good reasons but others just to spread hopelessness. I'm done with all that. If I can increase co2 in the plastic bag to speed up the proces, it won't be a bad idea. There are co2 balloon videos on YouTube, I could take inspiration. My major problem is getting benzo or sedatives of such. Most of them require prescription. I can't figure out away around it. I hope this message can bump the post
Obviously this method has also had its discouragements but as far as I am now it is the only one I can afford, I mean I could also try with SN but I'm not that motivated, as I was saying I am evaluating whether in addition to benzos I should also add oxycodone but I should see how to get it, even if I would not consider the sensation of suffocation to be really painful but more annoying but it is not something comparable to classic pain.

Then I saw that even in the case of SN people tend to take benzos so it's not as comfortable as they want to make it out to be.
 
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Themogger

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Obviously this method has also had its discouragements but as far as I am now it is the only one I can afford, I mean I could also try with SN but I'm not that motivated, as I was saying I am evaluating whether in addition to benzos I should also add oxycodone but I should see how to get it, even if I would not consider the sensation of suffocation to be really painful but more annoying but it is not something comparable to classic pain.

Then I saw that even in the case of SN people tend to take benzos so it's not as comfortable as they want to make it out to be.
Exactly, I had sleep paralysis while facedown a while back and I remember slowly suffocating. There was frustration but not some sort of discernable pain, just the feeling of slowly slipping and losing control.

From what I looked up of oxycodone, it's an addictive painkiller. The type they give people for knee dislocation. So it might be ideal but It'd also be something to get such a controlled substance
 
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I'm personally more and more thinking of making plastic bag method + partial hanging to lose consciousness fast.

But impossible to test so lots of mental work and visualizations :)
 
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Placo

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Feb 14, 2024
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Exactly, I had sleep paralysis while facedown a while back and I remember slowly suffocating. There was frustration but not some sort of discernable pain, just the feeling of slowly slipping and losing control.

From what I looked up of oxycodone, it's an addictive painkiller. The type they give people for knee dislocation. So it might be ideal but It'd also be something to get such a controlled substance
However, as far as benzos are concerned, I would try the legal route first, so try to get them at the pharmacy, they even give them to me without a prescription, I'm also thinking about trying something similar with oxycodone before trying other routes even if I see it as much more difficult.

I'm convinced that between benzos and oxycodone, even a method that may seem annoying like this one can be peaceful.
 
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losi

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placing head on the pillow more like burying my face on the pillow will work for asphyxiation while being unconscious for 2 to 3 hours?
 
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Placo

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placing head on the pillow more like burying my face on the pillow will work for asphyxiation while being unconscious for 2 to 3 hours?
I don't think so, you will definitely tend to move a little even if unconscious and you will return to breathing a sufficient amount of oxygen.
 
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I don't think so, you will definitely tend to move a little even if unconscious and you will return to breathing a sufficient amount of oxygen.
oh i see, i have access to only 13g of ghb + 500mg ketamine + 14mg of clonazepam and try to OD with it. so it is not just unconscious but coma stage. i will put garbage bag over my head to be 100 percent sure.
 
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Placo

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Feb 14, 2024
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oh i see, i have access to only 13g of ghb + 500mg ketamine + 14mg of clonazepam and try to OD with it. so it is not just unconscious but coma stage. i will put garbage bag over my head to be 100 percent sure.
Well yes, it seems safer that way, just be careful to seal the bag well around your neck.
 
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Hey, this is a dumb question but what kinda bag should I use for this? I'm in my gathering supplies phase and I don't wanna fck up. Should I use regular rope to tie around my neck to seal up air?
 
Placo

Placo

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I would like to have this oxycodone in my hands so that I can finally have the CTB method completed and be able to focus all my energies on trying to improve since the method is already ready, but having it in my hands I could risk abusing it, it's a big dilemma.
Hey, this is a dumb question but what kinda bag should I use for this? I'm in my gathering supplies phase and I don't wanna fck up. Should I use regular rope to tie around my neck to seal up air?
I would use a scarf in that case.
 
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Placo

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I am thinking of switching from oxycodone to kratom because I was considering that if I buy oxycodone for CTB and then I don't do it, it expires and I have wasted money for nothing and using oxycodone recreationally is much more burdensome than using kratom, by buying kratom I can use it both recreationally and to calm anxiety and pain in case of CTB with this method, even if in respect to oxycodone it is very mild, in that case I need a very powerful dosage together with benzos and alcohol.
 
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This thread was very interesting as I am considering this method. Do we know if anyone tried/tested it and what the results were?
 
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Placo

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This thread was very interesting as I am considering this method. Do we know if anyone tried/tested it and what the results were?
I attempted suicide a few months ago using this exact method but the scarf loosened and the oxygen started flowing back into the bag. I miraculously managed to free myself despite the bag blocking my view and my hands cuffed behind my back because I had left the key in an easily accessible place. In the end, I had no consequences for this failed attempt since the lack of oxygen had not reached a level that would cause harm and no one noticed anything. I had even bought a helium cylinder to mix this method with the inert gas method but it didn't work. I don't think the helium was enough and I still felt the symptoms of hypercapnia, but in this case I didn't get to the point of completely handcuffing myself.
 
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oh i see, i have access to only 13g of ghb + 500mg ketamine + 14mg of clonazepam and try to OD with it. so it is not just unconscious but coma stage. i will put garbage bag over my head to be 100 percent sure.
Sorry I can't see the chat page u can try to pm me
 

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