NSFW Guy CTBs on Facebook Live (via a shotgun)

[Meditation guide]

addressing above, only a person who has fits of anger can relate.

I used to have fits of anger against the bullies, Hell I'd have killed someone those days, I used to throw desks at the bullies, people ised to get scared and call me crazy.. That used to fuel my anger much more. By @Meditation guide 's opinion, this would mean I'm a narcissist (?) These episodes don't stop, and the more i tried to control, more i got branded, aliented amd called names.
There's a line to what's the bare minimum people should give to us, and if they can't give it to us and Dehumanise us, that means something is wronh woth them, not us.
Definitely, this would turn people into so called maniacs someday, "Criminals are made, Not Born" as they say. And the explanation of him being a narcissists is baseless, because Narcissists don't kill themselves, they kill others but not themselves.

I'm sorry I upset you so much. I didn't mean to start some big argument. I was wondering why someone would do that on social media. That's all and that's allowed. But my apologies anyway.

 

[Mm80]

addressing above, only a person who has fits of anger can relate.

I used to have fits of anger against the bullies, Hell I'd have killed someone those days, I used to throw desks at the bullies, people ised to get scared and call me crazy.. That used to fuel my anger much more. By @Meditation guide 's opinion, this would mean I'm a narcissist (?) These episodes don't stop, and the more i tried to control, more i got branded, aliented amd called names.
There's a line to what's the bare minimum people should give to us, and if they can't give it to us and Dehumanise us, that means something is wronh woth them, not us.
Definitely, this would turn people into so called maniacs someday, "Criminals are made, Not Born" as they say. And the explanation of him being a narcissists is baseless, because Narcissists don't kill themselves, they kill others but not themselves.

I must say the last bit rings true. Wouldnt a narcissist be much more likely to kill others than themselves?
If they are that self obsessed id imagine that they would want to preserve themselves and damage others ?

 

[Meditation guide]

Wouldnt a narcissist be much more likely to kill others than themselves?

They can have co-diagnoses. They can be depressed, psychotic, bipolar, sociopaths, schizophrenic at the same time. Lots of narcissists commit suicide.

 

[Mm80]

They can have co-diagnoses. They can be depressed, psychotic, bipolar, schizophrenic at the same time.

Fair enough. Its an interesting discussion and thought provoking, thats what i enjoy about ss.

 

[cyberlordsumit]

I honestly don't see how you concluded this from my post.
Let me clarify - I don't believe all suicides are irrational. I don't believe that there are no cases where people are being pressured into killing themselves by other people who hurt them a great deal and are justified in blaming others for their death. But I do mean that believing you are being pressured or forced to kill yourself because you weren't given a promotion you wanted or because someone doesn't pay attention to you is irrational. I don't say he wasn't hurting enough. I don't say he didn't have a right to kill himself. I just say that, assuming that we know what the primary motivation for his act was from the video itself and there isn't some other explanation we don't know about, killing himself in such a manner was an extremely irrational thing to do.


But what difference does it make? This is where I don't get it. I understand wanting to end your life because it's torture, I can even understand not caring who gets traumatized in the process because you're hurting so much you're willing to shoot yourself in the middle of a playground if that ends your suffering ASAP. But I do not understand why would anyone deliberately want to attract attention to their suicide. What's the point of getting attention from people if once you get it you'll be dead and it will make no difference to you either way?


...no? Seeking a way out of life is pretty much the opposite of being powerful. It means you, at least in your own mind, exhausted every other option to take control over your life and steer it in a direction you want.


Where's oppression in our posts, or in the video, or pretty much anywhere in the thread?
I don't think that we only have two options - either shaming all suicides or applauding every single one of them. I have a neutral opinion on suicides - I don't believe they are necessarily horrible and have to be prevented at all costs in all cases, but I don't think they should be encouraged either. I believe that dying by suicide is no different from dying in any other way. If I am supposed to believe all of the suicides are perfectly rational to be a part of this community, then I'm sorry, I must've made a mistake by coming here.

To be honest, Many here are already in the bottom and vulnerable.. This thread has just become a Judgement thread.. And yeah people will relate to something or the other, This place is non judgemental as I hear. Only the person who's going through his own bullshit, knows the bullshit. And I completely object on passing any kind of judgement where you are not directly involved. Because many people here are already invalidated so much , even their pain seems to be invalidated now. Even mine, I have screamed for help, the society Doesnt help but only brand us as something alien. that's enough bullshit as it is, and yeah these comments are definitely triggering. @Meditation guide backed off because he felt someone was hurting, this forum is not for passing judgements, atleast that's what I know of. We might have opinions and all, but the OP intended this thread to be 'educational'. Please realise the intentions behind what we are using.. Nobody here can know anyone else, not to any degree to justify passing judgements. I humbly request all the sick opinions to be kept private, When they are triggering.

 

[Meditation guide]

This thread has just become a Judgement thread..

No it hasn't! You completely misinterpret things, sorry to say. We are allowed to discuss things. That does not equate to judging.

That person chose to ctb on social media and we aren't supposed to wonder why? Or offer opinions about what might have caused them to do that? It's just a discussion. There had to be some reason they chose to do it on social media and it's ok to wonder about that.

 

[cyberlordsumit]

My bad, carry on.

 

[Meditation guide]

My bad, carry on.

I assure you I'm as pro ctb as anyone on here, maybe more. I like you. I know you have had a rough time of it like I have had. We are all in this mess together.

 

[GrumpyFrog]

Okay. I'm sorry. Since I really don't know anyone's bs as you call it, I'll refrain from commenting on anything from now on.

 

[Eren]

I only saw the beginning of the video, I took it off quite a bit before he shot, I really feel a lot of pity for that person. I'm pro-choice but I think it's sad that a person reaches that point, I wish no one needed CTB

 

[CarbonMonoxide]

Not really a 'random fact' that soldiers aren't told to aim for the brain stem. Pretty relevant to what you said, so just making a point.

Seriously? We're still doing this? What are you, a redditor?

 

[Anonymoussn]

Seriously? We're still doing this? What are you, a redditor?

I get the vibe I've offended you in some way, and I'm not really sure why, but I'll leave it at that. Have a nice day!

 

[CarbonMonoxide]

I get the vibe I've offended you in some way, and I'm not really sure why, but I'll leave it at that. Have a nice day!

Not offended, exasperated. Have a nice day too, alert me if you hear the bus coming.

Edit: It really has nothing to do with you. Of late I'm coming apart at the seams, I don't think I'll be around much longer. I apologize for my attitude.

 

[Anonymoussn]

Not offended, exasperated. Have a nice day too, alert me if you hear the bus coming.

Edit: It really has nothing to do with you. Of late I'm coming apart at the seams, I don't think I'll be around much longer. I apologize for my attitude.

Not a problem at all! I was having a bad day yesterday so can complete empathise! I probably could have been less blunt with my response too so I apologise! Hope you feel better soon!

 

[cyberlordsumit]

I guess everyones put of their wits, I also apologize if i offended or irritated anyone. Screw all this. CTB is peace yall

 

[Meditation guide]

I guess everyones put of their wits, I also apologize if i offended or irritated anyone. Screw all this. CTB is peace yall

Group hug

 

[CarbonMonoxide]

I guess everyones put of their wits, I also apologize if i offended or irritated anyone. Screw all this. CTB is peace yall

This video affected me more that I thought. If you go through my posts I'm usually a level headed guy. However, Ronnie's bitter words and the calm look of resignation on his face as he blew his head open got to me. I couldn't sleep last night, I kept rewinding that part over and over. I cried for the first time in years.

This is a horrible world, you go to fight for your country in a senseless war and come back with ptsd. Once you get back even your family members can't find the time to come to your aid. Then, just like Callie Lewis, the family reacts when it's too late, blaming everyone except themselves. I hate this world. I just want to leave, to hell with this place.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

I felt so sorry for that little dog. Couldn't he have given that dog to someone who would take good care of him first?

It was very sad to watch that little dog. I hope he is in good hands.

This video affected me more that I thought. If you go through my posts I'm usually a level headed guy. However, Ronnie's bitter words and the calm look of resignation on his face as he blew his head open got to me. I couldn't sleep last night, I kept rewinding that part over and over. I cried for the first time in years.

This is a horrible world, you go to fight for your country in a senseless war and come back with ptsd. Once you get back even your family members can't find the time to come to your aid. Then, just like Callie Willis, the family reacts when it's too late, blaming everyone except themselves. I hate this world. I just want to leave, to hell with this place.

You mean Callie Lewis? I think her family tried to help her, but she was very determined to die.

 

[CarbonMonoxide]

It was very sad to watch that little dog. I hope he is in good hands.

You mean Callie Lewis? I think her family tried to help her, but she was very determined to die.

Yes, it was a typo. After she died, the way the family reacted made me feel as if they had no idea what she was really going through.

 

[cyberlordsumit]

This video affected me more that I thought. If you go through my posts I'm usually a level headed guy. However, Ronnie's bitter words and the calm look of resignation on his face as he blew his head open got to me. I couldn't sleep last night, I kept rewinding that part over and over. I cried for the first time in years.

This is a horrible world, you go to fight for your country in a senseless war and come back with ptsd. Once you get back even your family members can't find the time to come to your aid. Then, just like Callie Lewis, the family reacts when it's too late, blaming everyone except themselves. I hate this world. I just want to leave, to hell with this place.

I can understand and relate buddy.... I'm in the same boat. there's no real help,

Yes, it was a typo. After she died, the way the family reacted made me feel as if they had no idea what she was really going through.

can you give the link??? i need to see it for myself...

 

[Mm80]

It was very sad to watch that little dog. I hope he is in good hands.

You mean Callie Lewis? I think her family tried to help her, but she was very determined to die.

Yeah i watched the documentary about calle. Its so sad to watch as the family did care and tried their best. Callie was let down by the nhs. The programme tries to distract from this and blame ss. I felt sad that she ctb as she was so young and a bit ofproper care may have helped her. Felt really sad for her mum too.

I can understand and relate buddy.... I'm in the same boat. there's no real help,

can you give the link??? i need to see it for myself...

can you give the link??? i need to see it for myself...

It was a panorama (uk) programme called failed by the nhs callies story.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

Yeah i watched the documentary about calle. Its so sad to watch as the family did care and tried their best. Callie was let down by the nhs. The programme tries to distract from this and blame ss. I felt sad that she ctb as she was so young and a bit ofproper care may have helped her. Felt really sad for her mum too.

I felt sad for her and her mum too. Her family knew that she was suicidal and they tried to help her, but they did not know how. They were really let down by the NHS. I have read Callie's tumblr, she seemed like a very nice girl. Autism is hard to live with.

 

[Mm80]

I felt sad for her and her mum too. Her family knew that she was suicidal and they tried to help her, but they did not know how. They were really let down by the NHS. I have read Callie's tumblr, she seemed like a very nice girl. Autism is hard to live with.

Yeah im autistic too. The nhs didnt have a clue about adjustiing their approach to someone with autism, usual one size fits all approach. They rang callie 3 times and then left it at that without visiting. Ffs one of the core features of autism is communication difficulties. A visit may have helped.
Thiis website got a bit of flack. I looked calliies interacrions up on here after the documentary. Its difficult to admit, but id say ss was slightly less sympathetic back then, it seemed that fellow users were more focused on assisting her with the method than the bigger picture. A few of her posts suggested she was quite vulnerable and naive, and i think if the same was to happen now, more users would have encouraged her to reconsider.

 

[CarbonMonoxide]

can you give the link???

I can't find the video link but here's an article blaming suicide forums for her death. I believe it was ss they were referring to.

Tragic Callie Lewis learned to kill herself in online suicide forums before being found dead in a tent

“GOOD luck! We all wish you a swift travel.” “May you find peace my friend.” These are some of the final messages sent from users of a “damaging” online suicide forum to a young British woman who e…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[Mm80]

I can't find the video link but here's an article blaming suicide forums for her death. I believe it was ss they were referring to.

Tragic Callie Lewis learned to kill herself in online suicide forums before being found dead in a tent

“GOOD luck! We all wish you a swift travel.” “May you find peace my friend.” These are some of the final messages sent from users of a “damaging” online suicide forum to a young British woman who e…

www.thesun.co.uk

Its on you tube i think if you just type in the title.
I read that article as well. Tried to comment but it wouldnt let me.
It was so biased.
What was interesting though was some of the comments on it from the general public.
Someone said why not consider dignitas in the uk. Others said dont blame the website its the nhs. There was a lot of pro choice views in there.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

Yeah im autistic too. The nhs didnt have a clue about adjustiing their approach to someone with autism, usual one size fits all approach. They rang callie 3 times and then left it at that without visiting. Ffs one of the core features of autism is communication difficulties.

I am sorry to hear about that. Is autism the main reason you want to ctb?
You do not seem to have communication difficulties on this forum (I like your sense of humor), but I know that it is easier to communicate in a relaxed manner on the Internet than in real life.

Its difficult to admit, but id say ss was slightly less sympathetic back then, it seemed that fellow users were more focused on assisting her with the method than the bigger picture. A few of her posts suggested she was quite vulnerable and naive, and i think if the same was to happen now, more users would have encouraged her to reconsider.

I don't know about that. We had this thread recently, with an even younger OP, and only a tiny minority of people tried to encourage her to reconsider. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-should-i-lie-to-my-parents.46044/

 

[Mm80]

I am sorry to hear about that. Is autism the main reason you want to ctb?
You do not seem to have communication difficulties on this forum (I like your sense of humor), but I know that it is easier to communicate in a relaxed manner on the Internet than in real life.



I don't know about that. We had this thread recently, with an even younger OP, and only a tiny minority of people tried to encourage her to reconsider. https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/how-should-i-lie-to-my-parents.46044/

Its ok but thanks for saying. Yeah autism is a big part of my reason, i think mainly because i got a late diagnosis at 39, this year. If id been diagnosed as a kid i might have had a bit more support and self understanding, and have built a more healthy life for myself. Ive lost a lot of people ive loved due to misunderstandings around autism, and neither party knew i had it. Frustrating. I have a bit more hope for the next generation of autistic youngsters, as more people are getting diagnosed earlier, and theres a bit more understanding around it now.
Thank you for saying you like my humour. I always try and throw something in as a coping mechanism and to lighten the mood and make someone smile hopefully. Its a difficult one though as some folk on here can be in dark places and not want humour. I just try and get a measure of the op thread and take it from there.
I think written communication can actually benefit autistic people as we are very literal, and can explain what we mean with words alone, whereby irl less words tend to be used as there are non verbal things( that we struggle to read) like body language, voice tone and facial expression. I can assure you if i had to sit in a big room with all of the ss members, i would struggle like fuck, at least at first. Unless there was alcohol available lol.
Just read that post and its such a tricky one. Op was straight to the point asking for advice and seeming sure of her intentions.
But as soon as he or she mentioned parents and not being allowed to go away alone, like for you, the age and vulnerability question would come up. I wouldnt want to criticise other members that i respect , who commented on the post (i know, im gonna get splinters up my arse from sitting on the fence) but i think id be more like yourself on that one. Id personally not be comfortable advising an 18 year old on what to say to his parents. Id be more along the lines of asking if hed had treatment for his issues and if he had thoroughly thought ctb through. It may sound patroning but 18 is very young. I had an attempt at 18, and although i am where i am now, im glad it didnt work back then because i have had some sort of life since then and some nice experiences.
Sorry for rambling on.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

Its ok but thanks for saying. Yeah autism is a big part of my reason, i think mainly because i got a late diagnosis at 39, this year. If id been diagnosed as a kid i might have had a bit more support and self understanding, and have built a more healthy life for myself. Ive lost a lot of people ive loved due to misunderstandings around autism, and neither party knew i had it. Frustrating. I have a bit more hope for the next generation of autistic youngsters, as more people are getting diagnosed earlier, and theres a bit more understanding around it now.
Thank you for saying you like my humour. I always try and throw something in as a coping mechanism and to lighten the mood and make someone smile hopefully. Its a difficult one though as some folk on here can be in dark places and not want humour. I just try and get a measure of the op thread and take it from there.
I think written communication can actually benefit autistic people as we are very literal, and can explain what we mean with words alone, whereby irl less words tend to be used as there are non verbal things( that we struggle to read) like body language, voice tone and facial expression. I can assure you if i had to sit in a big room with all of the ss members, i would struggle like fuck, at least at first. Unless there was alcohol available lol.
Just read that post and its such a tricky one. Op was straight to the point asking for advice and seeming sure of her intentions.
But as soon as he or she mentioned parents and not being allowed to go away alone, like for you, the age and vulnerability question would come up. I wouldnt want to criticise other members that i respect , who commented on the post (i know, im gonna get splinters up my arse from sitting on the fence) but i think id be more like yourself on that one. Id personally not be comfortable advising an 18 year old on what to say to his parents. Id be more along the lines of asking if hed had treatment for his issues and if he had thoroughly thought ctb through. It may sound patroning but 18 is very young. I had an attempt at 18, and although i am where i am now, im glad it didnt work back then because i have had some sort of life since then and some nice experiences.
Sorry for rambling on.

Thank you for your post, I understand it must be difficult to be diagnosed at your age and it naturally makes you wonder what could have been different if you were diagnosed earlier. I used to think that I have some form of autism myself, because I really struggle with reading social cues, but I never talked about that with a psychiatrist. If I was in the same room with the people from this forum, I would probably just smile nervously and stare at my shoes most of the time.

I agree that 18 is very young and I was a bit angered by some responses on that thread, but it goes to show that a lot of people don't take the bigger picture into consideration.

 

[Mm80]

Thank you for your post, I understand it must be difficult to be diagnosed at your age and it naturally makes you wonder what could have been different if you were diagnosed earlier. I used to think that I have some form of autism myself, because I really struggle with reading social cues, but I never talked about that with a psychiatrist. If I was in the same room with the people from this forum, I would probably just smile nervously and stare at my shoes most of the time.

I agree that 18 is very young and I was a bit angered by some responses on that thread, but it goes to show that a lot of people don't take the bigger picture into consideration.

Thank you. You may be undiagnosed. Reading social cues is a core part of it.
Are you in the uk? I ask that because its been statistcally proven that you have more chance of being struck by lightning here, than a medical professional spotting that you may be autistic.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

Thank you. You may be undiagnosed. Reading social cues is a core part of it.
Are you in the uk? I ask that because its been statistcally proven that you have more chance of being struck by lightning here, than a medical professional spotting that you may be autistic.

I bet that applies to some other countries as well. I am from Croatia.