Method Guns/firearms megathread

[tgfm]

Hi all,
I've been looking into this method because it seems like the most likely to kill me. My big worry is that something will go wrong and I'll live on in some kind of completely disabled or vegetative state. But I don't know what else to do. The other methods seem to have this same risk, but with maybe an even greater chance of failure. I don't know anything about guns or ammunition. I was thinking a shotgun would be the best bet to make sure I don't survive - does that make sense? Any ammunition recommendations? And any recommendations on how to do it (especially as someone unfamiliar with guns) to make sure it's over when I pull the trigger?
Thanks

 

[LADY007]

Hi all,
I've been looking into this method because it seems like the most likely to kill me. My big worry is that something will go wrong and I'll live on in some kind of completely disabled or vegetative state. But I don't know what else to do. The other methods seem to have this same risk, but with maybe an even greater chance of failure. I don't know anything about guns or ammunition. I was thinking a shotgun would be the best bet to make sure I don't survive - does that make sense? Any ammunition recommendations? And any recommendations on how to do it (especially as someone unfamiliar with guns) to make sure it's over when I pull the trigger?
Thanks

I read statistics regarding death by firearm and yes it has a higher success rate than other methods but the number of successes versus attempts paints a more cautious approach needed. I have a S&Wesson .38 special, but ruled it out due to pictures of people who tried it and lived with part of their head missing. I thought of shotgun.. Noise, gruesome scene, etc. So chose nitrogen exit bag instead.

 

[justsayin]

Hi all,
I've been looking into this method because it seems like the most likely to kill me. My big worry is that something will go wrong and I'll live on in some kind of completely disabled or vegetative state. But I don't know what else to do. The other methods seem to have this same risk, but with maybe an even greater chance of failure. I don't know anything about guns or ammunition. I was thinking a shotgun would be the best bet to make sure I don't survive - does that make sense? Any ammunition recommendations? And any recommendations on how to do it (especially as someone unfamiliar with guns) to make sure it's over when I pull the trigger?
Thanks

Guns are not beginner friendly contraptions. The only recommendation for someone that doesn't know anything about guns or ammunition, is to stay away from guns and ammunition.

 

[siray]

Hi all,
I've been looking into this method because it seems like the most likely to kill me. My big worry is that something will go wrong and I'll live on in some kind of completely disabled or vegetative state. But I don't know what else to do. The other methods seem to have this same risk, but with maybe an even greater chance of failure. I don't know anything about guns or ammunition. I was thinking a shotgun would be the best bet to make sure I don't survive - does that make sense? Any ammunition recommendations? And any recommendations on how to do it (especially as someone unfamiliar with guns) to make sure it's over when I pull the trigger?
Thanks

Shotgun to the brainstem is the greatest ctb method ever, it's how I'll go. I haven't acquired one yet but I'll go for 12 gauge shotgun with 00 buckshot ammo, aimed through the mouth pointed at where the brainstem is. It's so painless and instant that I never even considered Nembutal.

You just have to be absolutely certain that you want death, I advice you to exhaust all your vitality trying to save your life so that you don't have to ctb, Yes I'm advising you against killing yourself, but if you must and have no other choice, go for the shotgun. Peace.

 

[Someone123]

Shotgun to the brainstem is the greatest ctb method ever, it's how I'll go. I haven't acquired one yet but I'll go for 12 gauge shotgun with 00 buckshot ammo, aimed through the mouth pointed at where the brainstem is. It's so painless and instant that I never even considered Nembutal.

You just have to be absolutely certain that you want death, I advice you to exhaust all your vitality trying to save your life so that you don't have to ctb, Yes I'm advising you against killing yourself, but if you must and have no other choice, go for the shotgun. Peace.

I thi9nk this is maybe the most reliable method for people who are comfortable with shotguns, but there are unknowns for me- does ths gun kick so that you can miss vital areas and severely damage yourself without killing yourself? Also, it's not easy to pull the trigger- I saw a forensic files episode where a lady did this lying on a bed with the gun upside down between her legs and she pulled the trigger with her toe- this doesn't seem that easy to do.

 

[siray]

I thi9nk this is maybe the most reliable method for people who are comfortable with shotguns, but there are unknowns for me- does ths gun kick so that you can miss vital areas and severely damage yourself without killing yourself? Also, it's not easy to pull the trigger- I saw a forensic files episode where a lady did this lying on a bed with the gun upside down between her legs and she pulled the trigger with her toe- this doesn't seem that easy to do.

The recoil happens after the shot has been fired, so if you don't flinch while pulling the trigger, your brainstem is destroyed before the shotgun gets moved due to recoil.

And you're not supposed to pull the trigger with your toes, the old lady must have had a long shotgun or just short arms. Anyway I'm not advising you take this route as it's illegal to encourage ctb or advocate strongly for a particular method, so I'll just say that hypothetically if I wanted to die, I would prefer the shotgun method without any doubts whatsoever because it's the most lethal method there is.

 

[lonerclown666]

How many shots need a person to die does one shot in the head is enough?

 

[Someone123]

How many shots need a person to die does one shot in the head is enough?

You are almost always not able to do a second shot, though there are cases where people do a second shot. Some stats says the success rate is as high as 80%, but for survivors things are generally really bad, which is why I am not using this method. There are many videos on youtube in which survivors of gunshot suicide attempts are interviewed, many of them with their faces severely damaged- I think people should review these videos to decide if the risk is worth it.

 

[TerminallyAlive]

What is a "legitimate" reason I can say I am buying a shotgun if I am asked by the seller?

 

[summers]

What is a "legitimate" reason I can say I am buying a shotgun if I am asked by the seller?

I have sold guns privately and never asked why the person wanted to buy one. Same for when I purchased in-store, or had guns shipped to an FFL. The most you'll ever get is "Nice gun" or "Do you need some ammo?" If you are asked, just say you wanted another one for your collection, or it's none of their business.

 

[bigtiredoflife]

So, does anyone know which is better between .38 special and 9mm? I don't have any hollow points (thanks ammo shortage) and I'm not really looking to spend more money on another gun. I have a single .38 fmj and 50 9mm of the same. I'm sick of seeing the sun rise and I'm hoping to paint my shower tonight

What is a "legitimate" reason I can say I am buying a shotgun if I am asked by the seller?

Are you buying privately? You could just say that you want to skeet shoot, or have some self defense at home if they ask. Tbh I don't know why a private seller would ask. If you're buying from a shop (and I assume have a firearms license) they likely won't even bother asking why

How many shots need a person to die does one shot in the head is enough?

Depends on a lot of things. People have been known to survive eating a shotgun. Placement and caliber/caliber type are what matter. I think the best way would be a sawed off 12 gauge to the side of the head. The consensus on this thread has been .38 or 9mm at the smallest, hollow points, and just behind the ear. The goal is either to A) absolutely fucking shred as much brain as possible, or B) at least destroy the brain stem. Imho doing it through the mouth is riskier. If you're using a decent ammo and caliber type combined with a sufficiently powerful firearm, it should be one shot for lights out.

 

[NeedToSleep]

What is a "legitimate" reason I can say I am buying a shotgun if I am asked by the seller?

In the unlikely event that you get asked that, just say it's for home defense. In fact, if you tell them you're looking for a gun for home defense, they'll typically recommend a shotgun.

 

[greencondo]

What is a "legitimate" reason I can say I am buying a shotgun if I am asked by the seller?

I can only speak for my local gun shop experience. You need NO reason for buying a gun. It's like ordering off a restaurant menu, they just don't care unless you ask for advice and suggestions. I said I was interested in picking up shooting as a hobby. I even brought my target paper home.
Now if you walked in clearly not ever handled a fire arm before, they might question you but then probably suggest a training course, which last just a few hours. I've personally taken such class and would recommend.

 

[Interloper]

What is a "legitimate" reason I can say I am buying a shotgun if I am asked by the seller?

You are a red-blooded American, exercising your 2nd amendment rights. You then add something else depending on if you're buying it in a red or a blue state.

 

[bigtiredoflife]

I ordered a cheap preowned 12 gauge on Wednesday and today I looked up what 12 gauge does to heads. Jesus, I saw one guys head deflated like a balloon and another that was blown clean off above the lips. If you really wanna go and don't care how you're found then that's it…

 

[summers]

I ordered a cheap preowned 12 gauge on Wednesday and today I looked up what 12 gauge does to heads. Jesus, I saw one guys head deflated like a balloon and another that was blown clean off above the lips. If you really wanna go and don't care how you're found then that's it…

Chest is always an option too, if you want to help your face pretty

 

[bigtiredoflife]

Chest is always an option too, if you want to help your face pretty

I'm already A wuss and I'm a little hesitant to shoot myself in the head let alone my chest, but just imagining how my loved ones would feel if they found out I gibbed my head with a 12 gauge is a little sad. But I'd prefer to be cremated anyway, and it'll do the job 5 times over so if I don't hang myself, it'd be my preferred way to go

 

[summers]

I'm already A wuss and I'm a little hesitant to shoot myself in the head let alone my chest, but just imagining how my loved ones would feel if they found out I gibbed my head with a 12 gauge is a little sad. But I'd prefer to be cremated anyway, and it'll do the job 5 times over so if I don't hang myself, it'd be my preferred way to go

For me, it's the opposite. Not sure why, but I've had both a shotgun and pistol barrel in my mouth, and both of them right against my chest directly in front of the heart. I was way more comfortable testing the triggers on both against my chest. Both were loaded, so if I moved the trigger a little too far, well I wouldn't be posting right now haha.

 

[greencondo]

Chest is always an option too, if you want to help your face pretty

For me, it's the opposite. Not sure why, but I've had both a shotgun and pistol barrel in my mouth, and both of them right against my chest directly in front of the heart. I was way more comfortable testing the triggers on both against my chest. Both were loaded, so if I moved the trigger a little too far, well I wouldn't be posting right now haha.

Ok this is 100% anecdotal but I had to say something after reading some mention chest shots. An uncle of mine was facing some alleged legal troubles and he took his shotgun down to the river and shot himself in the chest. He did die, but they found his body after he had clearly dragged his badly injured self along the river. It wasn't quick. They never told my grandmother the details because it was so bad. He was not a novice with a gun so I don't know what happened.

Again, it got the job done but it was still traumatic for his close family who had to find out.

This is not to be taken as advice or anything close to expertise, it's just one account.

If you are reading this right now, I am sorry that you are suffering.

 

[summers]

Ok this is 100% anecdotal but I had to say something after reading some mention chest shots. An uncle of mine was facing some alleged legal troubles and he took his shotgun down to the river and shot himself in the chest. He did die, but they found his body after he had clearly dragged his badly injured self along the river. It wasn't quick. They never told my grandmother the details because it was so bad. He was not a novice with a gun so I don't know what happened.

Again, it got the job done but it was still traumatic for his close family who had to find out.

This is not to be taken as advice or anything close to expertise, it's just one account.

If you are reading this right now, I am sorry that you are suffering.

Agree 100% that chest is more risky in some regards. I think it's very important to know exactly where your heart is. Hit a lung, and it's not going to be instant for sure.

 

[greencondo]

Agree 100% that chest is more risky in some regards. I think it's very important to know exactly where your heart is. Hit a lung, and it's not going to be instant for sure.

I'm going with the head. For years, Ive just carried that image of him dragging himself for help. (what they assume he was trying to do, do to his direction)

with the head, It sounds like the mouth is preferable but I have a gag and coughing issue (part of my medical issue) that might cause some problems.
I also have fried nerves and nay loud noise or sounds are a separate issue of their own. That was confirmed when I was shooting at the range last year. I hope practicing without bullets for a while to at least take some of the nerves down a little but I will see if I can handle the mouth shot or not, or take my chances with behind the ear.

Anyone see a problem with a .38 special with hollows either behind the ear or in the mouth? I practiced at the range with with a 9mm. (If I recall) but I can buy anything that would be suitable but also ok to handle. (able to discretely carry without disassembling is important also) I dont know anything about buying used from a private source, it would probably have to be in store or a ship to store situation.

 

[summers]

I'm going with the head. For years, Ive just carried that image of him dragging himself for help. (what they assume he was trying to do, do to his direction)

with the head, It sounds like the mouth is preferable but I have a gag and coughing issue (part of my medical issue) that might cause some problems.
I also have fried nerves and nay loud noise or sounds are a separate issue of their own. That was confirmed when I was shooting at the range last year. I hope practicing without bullets for a while to at least take some of the nerves down a little but I will see if I can handle the mouth shot or not, or take my chances with behind the ear.

Anyone see a problem with a .38 special with hollows either behind the ear or in the mouth? I practiced at the range with with a 9mm. (If I recall) but I can buy anything that would be suitable but also ok to handle. (able to discretely carry without disassembling is important also) I dont know anything about buying used from a private source, it would probably have to be in store or a ship to store situation.

I definitely wouldn't use a 38spl with a 2" or 3" barrel. If that's your only firearm option, I would look into a chemical approach.

 

[greencondo]

I definitely wouldn't use a 38spl with a 2" or 3" barrel. If that's your only firearm option, I would look into a chemical approach.

Thanks for your time and reply.

Its sure not my only option, just one I read was an option. they said 4" but maybe they were talking about mouth, or I misread/misquote it down. I also wrote down .357 magnum. I can go back to the drawing board and read some more.

I gave chemical a long thought. I have 3 previous poisoning/pill attempts. I finally learned things I was doing wrong and what would work BUT
The scar tissue and swelling in my throat and esophagus is already making swallowing hard. I could go thru all that trouble and cost to get N and not be able to swallow it. Especially the vet kind.
Then there is SN but it got hard to get recently . (tho that might change at some point) and it might not be that much easier to do, tho. I just cant take pills or eat like I use to. It's a daily thing.

My health gets worse every month. My goal is to stay out of the state run nursing home.

 

[Øystein]

I know this is very cruel to other people but.. Has anyone thought of going at a shooting range because they live in a country where getting a shotgun is very difficult?

 

[21stcenturycamus]

I know this is very cruel to other people but.. Has anyone thought of going at a shooting range because they live in a country where getting a shotgun is very difficult?

My dad is a police commissioner and I have been to the gun range couple of times. It is quite difficult to get a gun in where I am in Europe. But from my experience in the gun range they take personal safety of the users as well as their surroundings pretty seriously. I have never ever heard of an attempt at a gun range but there is a high possibility of injuring yourself and/or some bystander by mistake. Plus, I'd guess if you attempt and fail, you would probably be facing some serious criminal charges. Even if you succeed (I am just assuming you don't mind exposing the bystanders to some gruesome imagery), I am pretty confident the responsible people in the gun range will be facing criminal charges and they may lose their business.

I would recommend getting a hunting license if you really think this should be your method.

 

[greencondo]

I know this is very cruel to other people but.. Has anyone thought of going at a shooting range because they live in a country where getting a shotgun is very difficult?

If you mean getting yourself shot at a shooting range? Please do not attempt this.

 

[Death is beautiful]

I wish I had a shotgun to blow my brains out, it's pretty simple and unlike SN and N and other overdoses, you don't have to wait for some time and take medications, just shoot and that's it, this is the closest option to the switch

 

[TerminallyAlive]

I know this is very cruel to other people but.. Has anyone thought of going at a shooting range because they live in a country where getting a shotgun is very difficult?

In the USA, do they do background checks at a shooting range?

 

[Crazy4u]

In the USA, do they do background checks at a shooting range?

No... there is a questionnaire

 

[LostMyWorld]

I don't understand why so many people ignore this advice and are adamant on aiming at their temples with a handgun.

So many scientific papers have been written on brainstem being the critical and most lethal part. Do people just fear putting the gun in their mouth and the terror of having to shoot your throat?

If they use the right caliber handgun, it should be 99% lethal. This is my preferred method, I cannot let the condescending opinions of people on this thread give me second thoughts pertaining to where I should point my handgun.

It has been discussed several times by the experts on this thread, all one has to do is read this legendary thread from the start. Most of their questions will be answered.

Handgun is my preferred method as I cannot acquire a shotgun. I have been living with extreme sorrow and psychological suffering, cannot wait to get it over with.

What gun would you prefer? I'm a small female and can't reach the trigger of my 10ga, 9mm is semiautomatic mag and won't fix in my mouth. I can buy whatever they happen to have at the store. Prefer it not to be a shotgun, to large to handle.