Method GasMonkey Setup [Nitrogen SCBA]

[AnonymousL]

The cylinder's valve is already open, the mask is already on, all before you put your wrist into the straps (they have enough space to insert the wrists into them).

The process would be:
1. Put the mask on.
2. Open the cylinder's valve.
3. Sit and strap body.
4. Put pulse oximeter on the finger.
5. Take a deep breath of air and hold your breath.
6. Insert the demand valve into the mask.
7. Pre-fill mask (pressing the front button for 1.5~2 seconds).
8. Insert wrists into the straps.
9. Exhale fully.
10. Take a deep breath of Nitrogen.
11. Avoid the reincarnation trap.

This might be a dumb question but does this method hurt?

 

[soverydonewiththis]

Ouch more expensive that i thought.
For that money paying assisted suicide should be a available at any decent clinic in a proper advanced society.

I agree with the latter completely. As far as to the former, when I attempted, I failed due to missing one small detail in the method I chose (insulin overdose - I should not have used large deep intramuscular injections. This formed the "depot effect" and prevented the insulin from getting in my blood stream more quickly) Coming back was the most psychologically and spiritually destructive thing that ever happened in my life by far. Cost is a temporal thing (unless you just don't have the resources). Failing isn't something anyone wants to go through. Success is priceless.

He told it's just OCD and overkill.

It may be, but when overdosing on insulin - depending on the person - many people's minds just go into survival mode and will do whatever is necessary to secure sugar to rebalance the system. Even when fully unconscious. I tried to get food - even though there wasn't any and I was completely unconscious. I'd rather have the straps to prevent my survival instinct from kicking in and pulling the mask off.

 

[joeschmo]

This might be a dumb question but does this method hurt?

If everything is done right, no leakage anywhere, and all components are correct, there is no pain whatsoever. I chose this method exactly because it is fail-safe and pain-free. Just waiting on the planned date to execute it.

 

[rigbone]

I am trying to get a bead on your wrist straps from the pictures. It looks like you bolted one end of an elastic strap to the chair and looped the other end somehow on the inside part?

Could I get more information on how you did this?

Also, I have puzzled how to do the wrist straps solo. Once I secure one wrist, idk how I can secure the second.

I think I understand the rest of the restraints. The ones on the legs, waist, and chest. These appear to be 2" nylon straps with buckles, and are not directly fastened to the chair?

 

[melancholymallory03]

GasMonkey Setup
[Nitrogen SCBA]
Positive Pressure Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus

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Front view

Side view

Back view

Pressure gauge

Lung Demand Valve and Mask

Bluetooth pulse oximeter

Cylinder attachment

Cylinder's connection (DIN 477-1 Nr. 10)

Air-to-Nitrogen adapter, DIN 477-1 No. 10 (W24.32) to DIN 477-1 No. 13 (G5/8").
This will be connected to the Nitrogen cylinder to be able to connect Air regulators.

Measurement of the adapter's width

Measurement of the regulator's width (more than enough to receive the adapter)

32mm spanner, the only tool needed

Flow restrictor for gas purity testing

O₂ testing
**brands have not been removed because this can't be used to CTB, just to test the purity of a gas**

CO₂ testing

Tablet data, on-the-fly monitoring of: Time, O₂ saturation and heart rate

My goodness !! This is very well worded and great instructions. Well done
Also I hope this isn't a stupid question, but is the device infront of the mannequin head for entertainment/ music or / relaxation for one's exit , because this would be so soothing.

Also the recliner chair looks so comfortable to exit in. Good choice

wishing you a peaceful and comfortable journey.

Thank you for spreading your knowledge and information. You must have a really special mind.

Also in relation to your gifs …



Nice song .

 

[Kapsyl]

I am trying to get a bead on your wrist straps from the pictures. It looks like you bolted one end of an elastic strap to the chair and looped the other end somehow on the inside part?

Could I get more information on how you did this?

Also, I have puzzled how to do the wrist straps solo. Once I secure one wrist, idk how I can secure the second.

I think I understand the rest of the restraints. The ones on the legs, waist, and chest. These appear to be 2" nylon straps with buckles, and are not directly fastened to the chair?

I'm pretty sure he used elastic Velcro straps just looped around the handrail, you can se the plastic buckle on the zoomed in picture. Can't se that they're bolted down since the chair effectively traps them to move to much but you could of course do it in another setup/chair.

Since they're are probably elastic it is already adjusted to be as tight as possible but loose enough to slide down your hand. The main function of the strap is to hold the body after becoming unconscious not physically stop you from interfering.

I'm also 99% certain Gasmonkey is dead.


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[rigbone]

I'm pretty sure he used elastic Velcro straps just looped around the handrail, you can se the plastic buckle on the zoomed in picture. Can't se that they're bolted down since the chair effectively traps them to move to much but you could of course do it in another setup/chair.

Since they're are probably elastic it is already adjusted to be as tight as possible but loose enough to slide down your hand. The main function of the strap is to hold the body after becoming unconscious not physically stop you from interfering.

I'm also 99% certain Gasmonkey is dead.


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Thank you, Kapsyl.

I didn't even think about using an elastic band. I thought that all the restraints had to be bulletproof, but I guess the elastic bands are enough to keep you from bringing your hands to your face while unconscious.

The area circled in red is what made me think that it was fastened. It looks like there is an improvised loop that wraps around a small metal bar running along side the armrest.

 

[rigbone]

Thank you, Kapsyl.

I didn't even think about using an elastic band. I thought that all the restraints had to be bulletproof, but I guess the elastic bands are enough to keep you from bringing your hands to your face while unconscious.

The area circled in red is what made me think that it was fastened. It looks like there is an improvised loop that wraps around a small metal bar running along side the armrest.

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What I have found is that, at least on my chair, if the bands are not fastened to the chair, they will slide down the leg rest frame as I try to push my hand through.

I am fastening some eyeholes to the plastic on either side of the arm rest with epoxy. I can't fasten them with bolts without impeding the recline movement. I figure epoxy is good enough as the eyeholes are just there to keep the strap in place while I push my hands through the straps and not meant to handle a heavy load.

 

[DeadManLiving]

How are you gonna displace all the air if there is no exhaust?

Btw there are oxygen chambers for home:
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But it would be easier to use one of those buble helmets (which are basically the perfect ExitBag).
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I have seen some of these on Amazon that look less Medical or clinical and for professional use in rescue or other cases with hoses that I assume supply a continuous stream of fresh air from a source fan that blows in and out which I assume is purging?

If that's the case then can a large enough tank of pure nitrogen or two be set to purge out and achieve the same effect since any residual 02 or CO2 that is breathed out will be expelled with the stream of nitrogen as the Purge cycle runs it's course? If pure nitrogen is just streaming in and out eventually I assume it's going to push out whatever other gases and a pure nitrogen stream will overtake the diminishing expulsion of CO2 and 02, both not mutually exclusive since we need one for the other. I guess it would depend on where the pipe ports are located and the rate of flow including the temperature, in if it's a mouthpiece type thing it might be more ideal if it can be strapped strongly enough. I've read that there are some quasi-ventilator systems that provide some positive pressure in the lungs that could be used of shelf. Will post link later on that device although it is a medical device that requires pure oxygen, should be an easy fix to reverse to N2.

I have also seen CO2 and oxygen scrubbers available online. Could a special manifold be built so that the outlet/OUT Purge line runs through the scrubbers until it's just about 99.9% back to N2?

I wonder if there are any papers or literature on this being tested and the rates and quantities required. I have heard that hand warmers can act as cheap oxygen purgers since the reaction requires oxygen, although I'm not sure if it expels anything dangerous and can contain the resultants or oxidative dust in those micron sized filter packs.

I also remember from chemistry class that you can filter mostly any gas by using a tube filled with a matrix of different sized balls, as the stream of gas flows the smaller or larger molecules will bounce between the Matrix of whatever size radius balls and inhibit the flow of certain gases all together like electrical impedance or capacitance until such time that the filter is saturated and then reset by simply flushing it with water.

I'm going to test this to verify. Another question is what chemicals would act is good O2 or CO2 purging chemicals or solids? Or if not chemicals, then what processes (in concert with chemicals) could act as optimal purging devices that can be DIYd like in the Apollo 13 case except in reverse.

 

[rigbone]

I have seen mention somewhere in these forums that it is a good idea to buy the SCBA air tank and the regulator as a package deal, so you can rehearse using the air tank. Seems like sound advice.

Unfortunately, when I bought my Pas Lite (Draeger PAS Lite - 2216, DRAEGER-3358743) regulator, I didn't get it with the air tank, and now I am trying to figure out which tank I need.

As my regulator maxes out at 2216psi, I figure I will need a 2216psi tank. I narrowed my selection down to the following:

• Draeger 4052006, 153.00 bar (2216psi) Cylinder Valve
  • This came up in a search for tanks, but it may just be a valve
• Draeger 4054856, 2216 PSI, 30 min, Aluminum Cylinder, Yellow
• Draeger 4057549, 5 min, 2216 PSI Aluminum Cylinder w/ SCBA Style Valve

I'm thinking that the 4054856 would be my best bet. I'd rather not just have 5 min and have to get it refilled often (btw, where do you refill SCBA air tanks?). I am a bit confused on the different type of tanks. According to Draeger's documentation there are 3 types:

• Dräger NANO Cylinder, Type 4
• Dräger Carbon Composite Cylinder, Type
• Dräger Steel Cylinder, Type 1

The puzzling thing is that there are vendor listings for aluminum Draeger tanks, but I don't see any aluminum tanks in Draeger's docs. For example the tank I selected (4054856) is listed as an "Aluminum Cylinder"

Putting this out there for verification that this tank is compatible with my regulator, and/or to get recommendations on a better choice, and maybe get some clarity on the types of tanks Draeger offers. My minds going sideways trying to decipher Draeger's catalog.