Forgiveness?

[brokeandbroken]

The brief version of my story is I worked my ass off in life in undergrad and then medical school which I attended overseas where I was the victim of a crime forcing me out illegally. Gradually I lost my families support for reasons I will never know and when the crime happened I fully lost it. I have no friends or any natural support. I hate my life. I spent my life trying to help people I was studying to become an oncologist. I was president of the oncology research group, co-authored paper(s), and etc.... My thanks for this is poverty, isolation, loneliness, homelessness, and just sadness basically. I feel like my life would've been better spent doing cocaine out of a strippers asshole (somewhat jokingly). Like i wasted my 20s trying to help society and I got nothing in return.

How do you forgive society? How do you get over a world that when you are in trouble it doesn't walk but runs in the opposite direction

 

[Goodgirlryeo101]

You are not alone, I know this guy who claims he has a great family and yet they couldn't help him for almost a decade with a "legal stay" you wonder why they never helped him when they were all working but got help from the most terrible and evil person in the world hahaha. What I'm trying to say most of these people that you might think have it all together might not be the case if you were to look deeper into that.

You don't have to forgive anyone if you don't want to and yeah for me I'm petty I'm taking my grudge to the grave and no I won't forgive anyone that I hate. Just see Caroline Flack and Phillip Schofield, a lot of them were joining on the bandwagon with so much venom and hatred. Humans are so fickle and having high hopes for anyone or anything always leads to great or delayed disappointment.

I will not miss this thing called life because I truly believe my existence for the past 5 years or so has been nothing but hell for me (caused by people that I helped and they would be nowhere they are if it wasn't for me) I will choose death over living at any given moment in life and I will still choose death over life and I will never change and my opinion will remain the same.

However, if you can think that you can fix your issues then fix them but if you want to ctb then it's all up to you as it's your life and no one else. You are the driver of this thing called life and you can choose your own ending without anyone's interference. Good luck….

 

[FuneralCry]

That sounds so awful what you've been through, I find it horrible how existing here can very easily get worse and much more unbearable, but it's just the reality of existing in this harsh and chaotic world where there's unlimited potential to suffer. But anyway best wishes, I certainly think it's true that you cannot rely on humans in this world.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think it's wonderful you even want to forgive. I became a cynic so early on in life!

I'd say you deserve to be angry by the sounds of it. Sounds like you've been treated criminally- literally. If I'm honest- I'd say society is a cold and heartless capitalist machine that only really cares to be SEEN to be doing the right thing. Personally- I don't think it deserves your forgiveness.

That said- I'd say- to move on- you need to focus on you. Bitterness at the world is only going to hurt you at the end of the day. It's not like you're going to be able to change it.

That said- if a miscarriage of justice has taken place and it has besmudged your good name- I think you should do all you can to get it overturned. It's not like 'society' will care- it's all bureaucracy and red tape- but you deserve to have the record put straight.

Personally- I think you need to see society and big corporations as ugly, greedy machines. Just do what you need to do to get by in them. You don't need to feel anything towards them- they don't feel anything towards you. It's a horrible state of affairs but I'm afraid we're stuck with it.

WITHIN that though are individuals. It's those people you presumably want to help and I hope you can find a way of getting back to that. Maybe you can find a decent company to work for in the end- who will treat you like a person rather than a case number.

In terms of your family though- that's a tough one. I've experienced stuff in mine that showed me where their loyalties lie. It's terribly upsetting and I think on some level- it does change relationships because you realise you're on your own ultimately. I just hope you can get back into what you love and find a new support network there.

 

[Solitudeseeker]

The brief version of my story is I worked my ass off in life in undergrad and then medical school which I attended overseas where I was the victim of a crime forcing me out illegally. Gradually I lost my families support for reasons I will never know and when the crime happened I fully lost it. I have no friends or any natural support. I hate my life. I spent my life trying to help people I was studying to become an oncologist. I was president of the oncology research group, co-authored paper(s), and etc.... My thanks for this is poverty, isolation, loneliness, homelessness, and just sadness basically. I feel like my life would've been better spent doing cocaine out of a strippers asshole (somewhat jokingly). Like i wasted my 20s trying to help society and I got nothing in return.

How do you forgive society? How do you get over a world that when you are in trouble it doesn't walk but runs in the opposite direction

unfortunately, as much as blood bonds even they can betray you. and to forgive society,as hard as it is sometimes its to be unconditional. with love,compassion etc but that is just my personal opinion. if you ever need anybody to speak to feel free to drop a message. may you find brighter days <3

 

[DurkheimsCat]

I can't stand society as it is, let alone forgive it. I work in advocacy and even a meaningful job can't keep me here. I still can't afford to survive let alone enjoy anything. And how could I enjoy anything when so many people suffer as the rich get richer off the labor of others that continue to suffer. I just don't think there's anything I can do for others let alone myself.

 

[brokeandbroken]

You are not alone, I know this guy who claims he has a great family and yet they couldn't help him for almost a decade with a "legal stay" you wonder why they never helped him when they were all working but got help from the most terrible and evil person in the world hahaha. What I'm trying to say most of these people that you might think have it all together might not be the case if you were to look deeper into that.

You don't have to forgive anyone if you don't want to and yeah for me I'm petty I'm taking my grudge to the grave and no I won't forgive anyone that I hate. Just see Caroline Flack and Phillip Schofield, a lot of them were joining on the bandwagon with so much venom and hatred. Humans are so fickle and having high hopes for anyone or anything always leads to great or delayed disappointment.

I will not miss this thing called life because I truly believe my existence for the past 5 years or so has been nothing but hell for me (caused by people that I helped and they would be nowhere they are if it wasn't for me) I will choose death over living at any given moment in life and I will still choose death over life and I will never change and my opinion will remain the same.

However, if you can think that you can fix your issues then fix them but if you want to ctb then it's all up to you as it's your life and no one else. You are the driver of this thing called life and you can choose your own ending without anyone's interference. Good luck….

That sounds so awful what you've been through, I find it horrible how existing here can very easily get worse and much more unbearable, but it's just the reality of existing in this harsh and chaotic world where there's unlimited potential to suffer. But anyway best wishes, I certainly think it's true that you cannot rely on humans in this world.

Thank you!

I think it's wonderful you even want to forgive. I became a cynic so early on in life!

I'd say you deserve to be angry by the sounds of it. Sounds like you've been treated criminally- literally. If I'm honest- I'd say society is a cold and heartless capitalist machine that only really cares to be SEEN to be doing the right thing. Personally- I don't think it deserves your forgiveness.

That said- I'd say- to move on- you need to focus on you. Bitterness at the world is only going to hurt you at the end of the day. It's not like you're going to be able to change it.

That said- if a miscarriage of justice has taken place and it has besmudged your good name- I think you should do all you can to get it overturned. It's not like 'society' will care- it's all bureaucracy and red tape- but you deserve to have the record put straight.

Personally- I think you need to see society and big corporations as ugly, greedy machines. Just do what you need to do to get by in them. You don't need to feel anything towards them- they don't feel anything towards you. It's a horrible state of affairs but I'm afraid we're stuck with it.

WITHIN that though are individuals. It's those people you presumably want to help and I hope you can find a way of getting back to that. Maybe you can find a decent company to work for in the end- who will treat you like a person rather than a case number.

In terms of your family though- that's a tough one. I've experienced stuff in mine that showed me where their loyalties lie. It's terribly upsetting and I think on some level- it does change relationships because you realise you're on your own ultimately. I just hope you can get back into what you love and find a new support network there.

I think most people want to feel good but really don't care about actually being good. People are generally a disappointment. That's why I want to learn how to forgive the world. Because it's only going to affect me. No one cares.

unfortunately, as much as blood bonds even they can betray you. and to forgive society,as hard as it is sometimes its to be unconditional. with love,compassion etc but that is just my personal opinion. if you ever need anybody to speak to feel free to drop a message. may you find brighter days <3

Thank you! Will do!

I can't stand society as it is, let alone forgive it. I work in advocacy and even a meaningful job can't keep me here. I still can't afford to survive let alone enjoy anything. And how could I enjoy anything when so many people suffer as the rich get richer off the labor of others that continue to suffer. I just don't think there's anything I can do for others let alone myself.

Wow I'm sorry that that is happening to you. Sounds like A) I should've come to you B) you are underappreciated C) I'm sorry you can't afford to survive.

For me it's very few people care to help others like you. And people like you are hard to find. I wish you the best.

 

[The anhedonic one]

I don't think there is such a thing as a true society these days.
And that is the problem,: it's too much of a highly aggressive and competitive dog eat dog world.

So-called society is unforgiving, therefore does not deserve to be forgiven.

 

[brokeandbroken]

I don't think there is such a thing as a true society these days.
And that is the problem,: it's too much of a highly aggressive and competitive dog eat dog world.

So-called society is unforgiving, therefore does not deserve to be forgiven.

I think in the west white people don't have a society. It's been thoroughly dismantled for many reasons. So, society doesn't care about us.