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mahakaliSS_MahaDurga

mahakaliSS_MahaDurga

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No way? Really??? How did they know it was you?
I have the same username over there and I was prodding them to publish the unedited version of the interview.
 
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JustABunchOfAtoms

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Jul 23, 2020
516
What was that all about? Did you even say that?
 
sarahR

sarahR

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Nov 11, 2020
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I have the same username over there and I was prodding them to publish the unedited version of the interview.
Ah that's why. Good idea that we soon will be invisible to them.
Ah that's why. Good idea that we soon will be invisible to them.
They claim to be so open yet they block one of us.
8:05 minutes in the video
Did he mention your username? Sorry I didn't see the whole thing. Made me sick.
 
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esse_est_percipi

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Jul 14, 2020
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They blocked me on Twitter. :aw:
Of course.
They don't want a rational debate (because they know they cannot win), or for people to call them out on their manipulation and dishonesty.
So they block.
 
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Chupacabra 44

Chupacabra 44

If boredom were a CTB method, I would be long gone
Sep 13, 2020
710
All this commotion here has done more to promote that web site than anything that those two individuals have been capable of doing on their own. Best to put the site on "ignore" and let them drift along with their four YouTube followers until those people go through their personal healing, get bored, and move onto their next endeavors.

If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?

This ongoing commotion on SS, Twitter, etc., reinforces their activities and energizes their efforts. This gives them some level of power and encourages them to continue.

The internet freedom of speech issues have gone through the courts. This web site is moderated and the administrators seemingly have a strong grasp of what is legally permissible to discuss on this site.

As long as the site owners continue to have the backbone and the will to endure the endless onslaught of those seeking to close SS, then this site isn't going to be impacted, IMO.
 
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sarahR

sarahR

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I just visited their page. I don't use Twitter so visited as a guest. They are publicly displaying comments from our community clearly showing pictures and comments of some of us and our avatars.
No he didn't
They doing it now. I've sent you some proof. I'm sorry. It's a shame they are doing this to us. What harm have we done?
They blocked me on Twitter. :aw:
Just saw what you posted there. Well said!!!
 
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sarahR

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I've seen that they are taking mahakali's tweets and displaying them on their page.
Apparently 'everybody has a right to be free from pain' is an unacceptable statement to them.
I'm so upset seeing my beloved members posts stolen from SS there. They are publicly displaying nicknames, avatars, comments, everything!!
 
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Hennessy

Hennessy

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Jan 14, 2019
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The people behind Fix the 26 is not the brightest bunch. If their brains where dynamite it wouldn't be enough to lift their hats.
 
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Ghost2211

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Jan 20, 2020
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I think @Chupacabra 44 has it right. They get a lot more attention here than anywhere else on the Internet. They are honestly much less of an enemy and much less of a threat if none of us give a damn about them. So what if they display our posts? It's a public forum everyone can see them anyway.
 
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sarahR

sarahR

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Exactly! I think we giving them exactly what they want! Attention! Let's just move on and stop speaking about this. Just my humble opinion. Let's move on and not give them anymore attention. Just my opinion.
 
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_Kaira_

_Kaira_

This Isn't Fine
Oct 2, 2020
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Those people are beyond pathetic.

Well you know you lost when you can't handle backing up your claims I guess.
If you don't want people around to argue, then clearly there's something wrong with your argument.

Oh well.
 
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mahakaliSS_MahaDurga

mahakaliSS_MahaDurga

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Apr 2, 2020
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Well you know you lost when you can't handle backing up your claims I guess.
If you don't want people around to argue, then clearly there's something wrong with your argument.

Oh well.
Yeah, they just repeat the same things over and over again.
 
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_Kaira_

This Isn't Fine
Oct 2, 2020
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Yeah, they just repeat the same things over and over again.

It's kind of scary how ignorant and hypocritical they're being. One lady there actually told Marquis to go read the stan's guide since he is still here. Meaning she told him to kill himself. Just such a yikes.

And another lady's tone is just so condescending it's sickening. Keep talking down to one of the people you claim you're trying to protect I guess. :pfff:

EDIT: actually may have been the same person...wouldn't surprise me...
 
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TattiQueen

TattiQueen

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Sep 12, 2020
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One final bit to add... The only actual goal FixThe26 has is to shut this place down. BPG had some fanciful idea that if we broke bread with the enemy that we'd somehow be able to co exist.

BPG doesn't have some super secret information that they can't find on their own. They wanted an interview with a (now ex) member and that's it. He's no longer useful to them and I highly doubt they make much effort to "stay in touch."

Im always so happy when I see a response of yours on a thread I'm actively viewing lol. You always get me thinking and kick my brain into high gear.

Anywho, I don't understand why so many people are so involved or want to be so involved in other peoples lives, especially when they don't even know them! I've had to deal with shit like this my entire life, especially being a very young single mother. It makes me more angry than most other idiocy's these morons strive to live by. They need to worry about and fix their effing lives, rather than worrying about messing up someone's else's who isn't asking for their input in the first place. They don't give a shit about any of us, they just don't want us to be able to actively pursue our freedoms to choose whether we live or die. Which then makes me want to move on to the question of why is it such a bad thing for someone to be able to make that choice? I mean shit! I'm sure majority of them have made worse decisions than that that actually did have an effect on another person directly and did mess with their lives.

P.S. I'm not saying CTB doesn't directly have a lasting Impression on those close to us, as it does. I mean like it isn't directly causing physical harm, putting them in immediate danger, etc.
Yes, I agree. The mods definitely made the right decision when banning him.
Nice talking about me btw at 8:05 BipolarGuy, thank you for not mentioning my name. And no one pushed me even more over the edge, I only got positive comments.

And even more positive ones when we found out you didn't leave us! I just checked in on their Twitter page and they have a screenshot, and it has a comment posted by you speaking on how you watched Letzeausfahrt live, there is also another user speaking to the same thing. They are trying to play that against the site. Anything to support their narrative. Makes me fuckin sick
Not only this, but in all of the goodbye threads I've witnessed, there's always an influx of people that make sure to say that it's more than okay if someone doesn't go through with it and that there's no shame in that. There seems to be acceptance either way from what I have personally seen.

I always make sure to provide any type of support I can offer to someone on a goodbye thread, specifically saying something to the tune of, "no matter what happens". Literally something so small can completely change a perspective, give someone hope, or make them realize they haven't actually explored all options. It's amazing what such a small, kind gesture can do for someone in such a vulnerable and emotional time.

I will say I'm extremely pissed that Fixthe26 feels it necessary to come on here, screenshot and post to their social media. A perfect example of pushing their narrative. They only post what they can find that fits and works for them. Exactly who my trolling thread was meant for.
That's pretty shocking to hear THAT'S who they were interviewing...jesus....

I about shit when I figured it out too! I'd seen him around before his ban. Completely shocked.
 
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LastFlowers

LastFlowers

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Apr 27, 2019
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I feel like i want to out myself to respond, but i fall short of the mark intellectually.
I would like to see the raw interview footage.
I'll be honest, i'm mixed.
The level of manipultaion, just hmm.
And they take advantage of that. Of the fact that many of us here-who are genuine-do not wish to show our face or out our identity. We can't afford to. Those who can afford to are usually less genuine and more of the attention seeking variety, who would pull this shit no matter what site they were on.
The ones who could properly defend this place remain faceless and thus easier targets of the pro-life movement's rage..they neglect attributing any humanity to those who are invisible.

I have a fear of public speaking and tend to stutter and sound like a complete dunce when I speak out of my actual mouth , I am also a prime target for nasty commentary because of my appearance..so I also miss the mark in more ways than one to be able to pull the stunt that BPG has. But man I do wish I was in a different position entirely so I could say my fucking peace. It's maddening, not just in this specific scenario, but in many aspects of life. A lot of us are stifled.
It's kind of scary how ignorant and hypocritical they're being. One lady there actually told Marquis to go read the stan's guide since he is still here. Meaning she told him to kill himself. Just such a yikes.

And another lady's tone is just so condescending it's sickening. Keep talking down to one of the people you claim you're trying to protect I guess. :pfff:

EDIT: actually may have been the same person...wouldn't surprise me...
They protect no one, they are not unlike abusive partners who throw acid on the face of their "beloved", all the while stating that it's for their own good.
One final bit to add... The only actual goal FixThe26 has is to shut this place down. BPG had some fanciful idea that if we broke bread with the enemy that we'd somehow be able to co exist.

BPG doesn't have some super secret information that they can't find on their own. They wanted an interview with a (now ex) member and that's it. He's no longer useful to them and I highly doubt they make much effort to "stay in touch."
BPG isn't breaking bread, he is spoon feeding the man buttered biscuits. I haven't finished the interview yet but he's not even attempting to assert any kind of defense or truth about this site, he is just succumbing and leaning into the interviewer's ridiculous, lazy phrasing and "points", going with the nonsense flow. Maybe there's more to it, but so far so bad..
I have not even completed any level of what most would call higher education and even I can see that there are so many "ins" and holes in what the interviewer states, it would be very easy to pick apart his words and compile a simple yet effective retort, at every half of a remark.

I agree that BPG made it seem like that was his idea behind this interview but it's clear that his true motives were not to allow coexistence, he is just digging the knife in our backs. He's a man on stage.
And yes, I second the ex-member requirement they likely had for someone they wanted to interview..I wonder what the preliminary talks were like, I also wonder how they would edit an interview with someone more suited to represent the community here..or would they even end up posting it at all.
He kind of did give me off vibes. But I was just guessing it cause of him being bipolar (his name). But wow, it kind of makes sense now how he treated and spoke to a lot of members.
They say we aren't in our right minds to end our lives or converse on this site because we are all mentally ill, yet they are going to take the word of an actual member who named himself after a mental disorder.
The contradictions within these people are fucking hysterical.
They have now a section dedicated to ex members. They make us look like a cult; damnit. ;-;
Most of the "ex members" were probably sock puppet accounts made by these fools.
 
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_Kaira_

_Kaira_

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Oct 2, 2020
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After arguing with them on twitter for awhile, I have come to the conclusion that they don't want to help us. They are so fixated and tunnel-visioning the 'bad' they see in this website, that they can't come here and see ANY of the possible benefits we do find here. On that note, I fear we will never be able to find a middle ground with them. Not that I'm surprised, and there probably wouldn't have been a chance at this in the first place. I never believed they would go from prolife to prochoice in a heartbeat. But still, I had hope, that maybe, just maybe, I could've found some common ground. Then who knows? Maybe we could actually have done what Jeremy(BPG) suggested and worked with them to at least some what improving the problems that lie with healthcare, insurance, and social-stigma with society. But I have lost that hope. None of them are willing to focus on the main problems, and it's saddening.

Now all I feel is empty. I feel even worse after talking on twitter than before. I was insulted, attacked, and belittled on my mental capacity tonight and yesterday. And all for what? Because I am a member of SS? It wasn't a good idea to try and talk with them. Not good at all. I nearly CTB'd tonight impulsively, but wasn't given enough alone time. I still want to as well. Been crying all night long. It's really, really sad. I fucking regret trying to talk to any of those people!

I fucking even wouldn't doubt they may screenshot this. I'm so fucking upset right now.
 
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mahakaliSS_MahaDurga

mahakaliSS_MahaDurga

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And they take advantage of that. Of the fact that many of us here-who are genuine-do not wish to show our face or out our identity. We can't afford to. Those who can afford to are usually less genuine and more of the attention seeking variety, who would pull this shit no matter what site they were on.
The ones who could properly defend this place remain faceless and thus easier targets of the pro-life movement's rage..they neglect attributing any humanity to those who are invisible.

I have a fear of public speaking and tend to stutter and sound like a complete dunce when I speak out of my actual mouth , I am also a prime target for nasty commentary because of my appearance..so I also miss the mark in more ways than one to be able to pull the stunt that BPG has. But man I do wish I was in a different position entirely so I could say my fucking peace. It's maddening, not just in this specific scenario, but in many aspects of life. A lot of us are stifled.

They protect no one, they are not unlike abusive partners who throw acid on the face of their "beloved", all the while stating that it's for their own good.

BPG isn't breaking bread, he is spoon feeding the man buttered biscuits. I haven't finished the interview yet but he's not even attempting to assert any kind of defense or truth about this site, he is just succumbing and leaning into the interviewer's ridiculous, lazy phrasing and "points", going with the nonsense flow. Maybe there's more to it, but so far so bad..
I have not even completed any level of what most would call higher education and even I can see that there are so many "ins" and holes in what the interviewer states, it would be very easy to pick apart his words and compile a simple yet effective retort, at every half of a remark.

I agree that BPG made it seem like that was his idea behind this interview but it's clear that his true motives were not to allow coexistence, he is just digging the knife in our backs. He's a man on stage.
And yes, I second the ex-member requirement they likely had for someone they wanted to interview..I wonder what the preliminary talks were like, I also wonder how they would edit an interview with someone more suited to represent the community here..or would they even end up posting it at all.

They say we aren't in our right minds to end our lives or converse on this site because we are all mentally ill, yet they are going to take the word of an actual member who named himself after a mental disorder.
The contradictions within these people are fucking hysterical.

Most of the "ex members" were probably sock puppet accounts made by these fools.
I have asked them repeatedly to publish the unedited version of the interview and they told me to reveal my identity if I am such a firm believer in my cause. I said I will reveal it if they publish the raw footage of the interview, and they blocked me after that.

BPG wants to work with these people and SS admins on improving mental health care services, that's what he claims. I will not comment on that, lol.
 
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_Kaira_

This Isn't Fine
Oct 2, 2020
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I have asked them repeatedly to publish the unedited version of the interview and they told me to reveal my identity if I am such a firm believer in my cause. I said I will reveal it if they publish the raw footage of the interview, and they blocked me after that.

BPG wants to work with these people and SS admins on improving mental health care services, that's what he claims. I will not comment on that, lol.

They don't wan to discuss anything with us cause they view what we say as lies. It disturbs me to be honest. But also proves our point on toxic positivity, and ignoring the truths about the world and how they want people to be blind to it.

It's actually sad. I know it wouldn't help everyone...but I don't see how they don't realize that if they put their efforts into changing the
INITIAL problems that make people feel the way they do, then a lot less people would be driven to suicide in the first place...
 
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mahakaliSS_MahaDurga

mahakaliSS_MahaDurga

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After arguing with them on twitter for awhile, I have come to the conclusion that they don't want to help us. They are so fixated and tunnel-visioning the 'bad' they see in this website, that they can't come here and see ANY of the possible benefits we do find here. On that note, I fear we will never be able to find a middle ground with them. Not that I'm surprised, and there probably wouldn't have been a chance at this in the first place. I never believed they would go from prolife to prochoice in a heartbeat. But still, I had hope, that maybe, just maybe, I could've found some common ground. Then who knows? Maybe we could actually have done what Jeremy(BPG) suggested and worked with them to at least some what improving the problems that lie with healthcare, insurance, and social-stigma with society. But I have lost that hope. None of them are willing to focus on the main problems, and it's saddening.

Now all I feel is empty. I feel even worse after talking on twitter than before. I was insulted, attacked, and belittled on my mental capacity tonight and yesterday. And all for what? Because I am a member of SS? It wasn't a good idea to try and talk with them. Not good at all. I nearly CTB'd tonight impulsively, but wasn't given enough alone time. I still want to as well. Been crying all night long. It's really, really sad. I fucking regret trying to talk to any of those people!

I fucking even wouldn't doubt they may screenshot this. I'm so fucking upset right now.
Please try not to be upset about them, people on Twitter are nasty, that medium brings out the worst in people. I have read enough of your posts to notice you are intelligent, logical, rational, articulate, wise and that you have a pretty good insight. :hug:

We can hardly work together with people who call us murderers, traffickers, pedos etc. They don't care about mental health care and I think their main objectives are weaseling some money out of Cloudflare and shutting down this website. Even if we worked together, we couldn't change much since we have no power and we do not have enough people on either side. Members of this site do not live in the same country, so we would have to fight for an international health care reform - an impossible task, even if we had millions of people in our ranks who were willing to lobby and financially support this cause.
 
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_Kaira_

_Kaira_

This Isn't Fine
Oct 2, 2020
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Please try not to be upset about them, people on Twitter are nasty, that medium brings out the worst in people. I have read enough of your posts to notice you are intelligent, logical, rational, articulate, wise and that you have a pretty good insight. :hug:

We can hardly work together with people who call us murderers, traffickers, pedos etc. They don't care about mental health care and I think their main objectives are weaseling some money out of Cloudflare and shutting down this website. Even if we worked together, we couldn't change much since we have no power and we do not have enough people on either side. Members of this site do not live in the same country, so we would have to fight for an international health care reform - an impossible task, even if we had millions of people in our ranks who were willing to lobby and financially support this cause.

I ended up making a second account today, which is where I received a good portion of the abuse.

It was still a nice thought. At the VERY VERY LEAST in the US (where fixthe26 is operating from, not that I don't want anyone else to get 'help').
But nah... just sh*t on the suicidal some more. I hate the d*mn hypocrisy. Do they not know the sh*t they were saying made me feel? How it could make anyone feel? But no WE'RE the evil ones. Your comment was just sooo evil you know? Telling me not to be upset over cruel people? SO EVIL. PRIME case of someone encouraging suicide right here I tell you...

But seriously, thank you. I still feel like utter trash, but I needed this. I really do feel like I can find some of the kindest people here, compared to SOME people....

I wonder how that would make them feel if they read this.
Knowing they triggered someone's SI by being cruel as hell. Probably wouldn't give 2 sh*ts cause that wouldn't fit the narrative...


Thanks Mahakali :heart: :heart: :heart:
 
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Haramburger

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Nov 21, 2020
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Pointless interview. They don't care about us, or helping us. They just tunnel vision hating SS
Since if they take away having to see us suffer they can pretend it doesn't exist.
Best summation of the entire thread, thoughtful and concise.
 
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TattiQueen

TattiQueen

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Sep 12, 2020
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And they take advantage of that. Of the fact that many of us here-who are genuine-do not wish to show our face or out our identity. We can't afford to. Those who can afford to are usually less genuine and more of the attention seeking variety, who would pull this shit no matter what site they were on.
The ones who could properly defend this place remain faceless and thus easier targets of the pro-life movement's rage..they neglect attributing any humanity to those who are invisible.

I have a fear of public speaking and tend to stutter and sound like a complete dunce when I speak out of my actual mouth , I am also a prime target for nasty commentary because of my appearance..so I also miss the mark in more ways than one to be able to pull the stunt that BPG has. But man I do wish I was in a different position entirely so I could say my fucking peace. It's maddening, not just in this specific scenario, but in many aspects of life. A lot of us are stifled.

They protect no one, they are not unlike abusive partners who throw acid on the face of their "beloved", all the while stating that it's for their own good.

BPG isn't breaking bread, he is spoon feeding the man buttered biscuits. I haven't finished the interview yet but he's not even attempting to assert any kind of defense or truth about this site, he is just succumbing and leaning into the interviewer's ridiculous, lazy phrasing and "points", going with the nonsense flow. Maybe there's more to it, but so far so bad..
I have not even completed any level of what most would call higher education and even I can see that there are so many "ins" and holes in what the interviewer states, it would be very easy to pick apart his words and compile a simple yet effective retort, at every half of a remark.

I agree that BPG made it seem like that was his idea behind this interview but it's clear that his true motives were not to allow coexistence, he is just digging the knife in our backs. He's a man on stage.
And yes, I second the ex-member requirement they likely had for someone they wanted to interview..I wonder what the preliminary talks were like, I also wonder how they would edit an interview with someone more suited to represent the community here..or would they even end up posting it at all.

They say we aren't in our right minds to end our lives or converse on this site because we are all mentally ill, yet they are going to take the word of an actual member who named himself after a mental disorder.
The contradictions within these people are fucking hysterical.

Most of the "ex members" were probably sock puppet accounts made by these fools.

I love how the mod of their FB page is like "yes it's probably best that you don't" when referring to them joining the site as "we know who they are. Know their name". Like come on with it. Not one of us are that worried about you, much less wasting time finding you to hurt you when apparently you plan/planned on it yourself anyway. Exactly what sense does that make?
 
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