Venting Feels like this forum is no different to anywhere else now

[FuneralCry]

This site really has just went downhill, it's sad how the only place suicidal people have to vent and discuss suicide openly is filled with pro-lifers and insensitive people. I'm sorry but some of us come on here as we want to vent about our wish to die and it doesn't mean we want to be lectured and told the way we are feeling is wrong, we weren't asking for your advice, this site isn't your entertainment. I wish all the bored people and pro-lifers would go back to Youtube or Reddit or wherever they came from as those who really want to die deserve a place to discuss it openly, this website should be a safe space for suicidal people and those who hate life, people come here to escape from pro-life attitudes towards suicide in the first place.

And I don't understand the people who automatically assume that every thread is a discussion or debate when it's clearly just someone venting, I also cannot stand the people who act like suicide is something easy even know this site is filled with people struggling to find ways to reliably die.
But anyway this site really did become too mainstream, it's now filled with people who don't seem to understand what the word venting even means. And to the people who ask "why are you still alive", maybe if something happened to you to make you want to die then maybe then you might understand how difficult suicide really is. And no, just because someone feels trapped here because suicide methods are inaccessible or fears a suicide attempt failing doesn't mean they have loads of "hope", the problem lies in how this society is so anti-suicide.

 

[Imprisoned]

Hard agree. I wish people would keep in mind that this is a support forum and a safe space before posting. You're very kind btw, I wish that scumciety would let people like us just die in peace.

 

[carnivalforone]

this might be the first post where you're not repeating random nonsense and actually make a fair point. good on you funeralcry. agreed this site has gotten too mainstream.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I agree. But even with the setbacks of this forum, it still is significantly better than most places on the internet so I'd say it deserves praise in that aspect at least

 

[Argo]

I think discussion is kind of inevitable in social spaces, and there's nothing in the rules that say threads marked venting will be absent of discussion. We have these thread tags, right? We have venting, story, discussion, method, but... the tag alone doesn't seem like some absolute stamp on what's in the thread. A story thread for example, won't be absent of discussion. A method thread, won't be absent of discussion.

So it sounds to me that you'd like something like a "Support only" tag which can be found in some other online communities that deal with suffering, where people won't offer any counter points to someone's post once that tag is up. Your main concern is feeling invalidated, right? Something like that could prevent alienation-- maybe you could put that up in forum suggestions?

I personally haven't encountered anything overtly pro-life here. Actually maybe just once yesterday when I was looking back on someone's exit thread (avaruus) , and someone from their friend circle came at the end and asked everyone to reconsider suicide. Does that really happen often here?

Suicide is definitely not easy, and I also haven't found anyone suggesting that. Pretty much everything I see in threads where people mention struggles with SI that pop up every day involve something like: "Don't worry, SI is tough, etc etc". It's overwhelmingly supportive.

Sorry you're suffering-- myself and I believe most people here appreciate your posts.

 

[willitpass]

I'm just tired of venting and being offered therapy and potential treatments. I'm so sick of repeating that there are no more treatment options in every thread I make when all I want is to vent.

 

[Iamtired]

I just want there to be someone on this forum who is a medical professional that will help me. I am in so much pain. I can't do it myself I've been cheated and robbed by the entire medical establishment, paying for the mistakes of doctors and living in this condition , from the mistakes psychiatrists and therapists and A SURGEON and the whole system operating on evil and a litigious society where no one can even get help from said mistakes . Someone please if you are out there we are in need of help. Serious help.

 

[Worndown]

You need to allow for conversations, situations and needs to evolve. If this were only about death and ctb, it would have been shut down by now.
Currently some people can vent, compare problems and if lucky, work it out. This is in everyones best interests.

 

[logi3535]

I agree, hearing from everyone (outside of this forum) over and over about how "life has to much to offer" and "this is just a rough patch" don't seem to understand and it feels so frustratingly suffocating. It really is kindof cruel and corrupt how messy the system is where even if you're in the worst position you could be in, the thought of taking your life or getting euthanized is just so taboo to everyone around. I am thankful for sasu being so much more open than most other forums though

 

[Whale_bones]

The one thing we have in common on this website is that we all believe in the individual right to die. Beyond that, people are going to want completely different things when they post. We have people who believe in a particular religious afterlife with 100% certainty, people who are sure that only nothingness exists after death, and everywhere in between. We have people who have gone through decades of treatment and people who haven't gone to a session of treatment. People who have been suicidal their whole lives and people who lived happily for years until a major event changed their life.

We have vastly different experiences and views, and likewise, while some people post a thread only wanting to vent, others want to engage in discussion. It's all equally allowed here because suicidal people aren't identical. In fact, I think it's especially important that we're able to hold different views because the general public often tries to stereotype us in very limiting ways. We need people from all different walks of life, and all different experiences, to be able to say they believe in the individual right to die. One day, it will no longer be excusable to say it's "just" the people who haven't gotten treatment, "just" the godless ones, "just" whoever, because so many people say they believe in the right to die, regardless of their differing views on other things.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Sorry for upsetting you. You've been saying the same thing for a while now. If you are going to continue to use the site I suggest you try to accept it for what it is because evidently It isn't going to change to be the way you want it while reporting what you consider to be out of line.

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

I wouldn't be interested in echo chamber forum. I like different takes and opinions. But I haven't noticed any prolifers here.