feeling the effects of SN

[meowzers3276]

I'm still adjusting to the site, how do I start a thread? Or PM you ?

i think you have to unlock pm over time-- when i am able to i can use the "conversation" feature to contact you.

 

[CoKofi]

i think you have to unlock pm over time-- when i am able to i can use the "conversation" feature to contact you.

Do you know how/when it's unlocked?

 

[fadedghost]

Interesting reading everyone's experiences here of feeling calm when they were on the verge of death. The last time I tried partial hanging (more as a test than anything else) I too felt rather calm and relaxed - it felt almost pleasant and I didn't want to back out of it. It was like my brain was telling me I was doing the right thing.

I tried to poison myself. It hurt like fucking hell.

Imagine being stabbed by 1000 knives all at once and no one could see the blood; that's what it felt like. I'm still fucking pissed I experienced so much pain and didn't die. It was awful.

I don't know if SN at the end is like that, but it's very possible it is and at that point the nearly-dead people have such low O2 stats they have never been able to tell anyone.

This also isn't a scientific answer. There may be medical data out there guessing on pain levels for methemoglobinemia prior to passing out.

 

[insectontrial]

I tried to poison myself. It hurt like fucking hell.

Imagine being stabbed by 1000 knives all at once and no one could see the blood; that's what it felt like. I'm still fucking pissed I experienced so much pain and didn't die. It was awful.

I don't know if SN at the end is like that, but it's very possible it is and at that point the nearly-dead people have such low O2 stats they have never been able to tell anyone.

This also isn't a scientific answer. There may be medical data out there guessing on pain levels for methemoglobinemia prior to passing out.

That sounds horrendous. I'm so sorry. I tried to OD on multiple substances back in 2022 and that gave me a nasty pounding headache, but it was impulsive (following a traumatic event) and I didn't really think it through. I actually started lurking on this site some time after that.

 

[SMxj9]

since no one else has yet i'll mention you'll need 4-24h, ideally do it overnight and try to take measures to make sure that your loved ones are not tipped off by any behavior cues etc. for most and for me im doing it on midnight, its also easiest to track protocol that way!

Why 24h? SN kills faster than this. 24h after my body will be starting to rotten and i want a funeral for my family, not a closed coffin.

 

[meowzers3276]

Why 24h? SN kills faster than this. 24h after my body will be starting to rotten and i want a funeral for my family, not a closed coffin.

idk, just to play safe i guess, so i made the range large... sorry

 

[SMxj9]

idk, just to play safe i guess, so i made the range large... sorry

i read something on this forum about barbiturates sometimes taking long like this to kill, but idk nothing about it.

 

[meowzers3276]

i read something on this forum about barbiturates sometimes taking long like this to kill, but idk nothing about it.

yeah, plus SN poisoning is very easy to reverse with methylene blue. and sometimes humans can last a hot minute before truly dying. i would say a more specific time frame for SN would be like 8 hours. ive seen multiple reports of failed SN attempts where either they woke back up or were discovered visibly ill/cyanosis. so thats why i reccomended to have maybe a longer period of time isolated before discovery with SN at least, cause even if you fail itll take time to look normal. people will most definetly send you to the hospital and thus the psych ward if they see the cyanosis that SN causes, it's very obvious and may take hours to days to go away if you made it out of an SN attempt, which is always a possibility!

 

[fadedghost]

That sounds horrendous. I'm so sorry. I tried to OD on multiple substances back in 2022 and that gave me a nasty pounding headache, but it was impulsive (following a traumatic event) and I didn't really think it through. I actually started lurking on this site some time after that.

Was the OD something that could have actually caused suicide and you just happened to survive, or was it more of a self-harm type dose?

There's a difference between 8 pills and taking 94 pills; I'm not sure if the extreme pain I felt was due to the extreme number of pills and the type of pain or what.

 

[SMxj9]

yeah, plus SN poisoning is very easy to reverse with methylene blue. and sometimes humans can last a hot minute before truly dying. i would say a more specific time frame for SN would be like 8 hours. ive seen multiple reports of failed SN attempts where either they woke back up or were discovered visibly ill/cyanosis. so thats why i reccomended to have maybe a longer period of time isolated before discovery with SN at least, cause even if you fail itll take time to look normal. people will most definetly send you to the hospital and thus the psych ward if they see the cyanosis that SN causes, it's very obvious and may take hours to days to go away if you made it out of an SN attempt, which is always a possibility!

I guess if they survived they didn't use antiemetics or drank a tiny bit of SN . I already have my kitchen scale for the correct amount.

 

[meowzers3276]

I guess if they survived they didn't use antiemetics or drank a tiny bit of SN . I already have my kitchen scale for the correct amount.

theres a megathread with a spreadsheet somewhere of the protocols and doses of documented failed vs sucessful SN attempts. i noticed most called emergency service on themselves, were discovered blue, or took low doses. so, i think youre right, making sure you 100% have the proper lethal dose INSIDE of you is key...

 

[fadedghost]

I guess if they survived they didn't use antiemetics or drank a tiny bit of SN . I already have my kitchen scale for the correct amount.

I think often when people survive antiemetics or purity issues or dosage issues come into play; rarely are there SN attempts with the correct dosage and purity and anti-emetics that fail, although I've seen it happen on here once or twice when the person swears up and down they did everything correctly. Even when people overdose "incorrectly" with SN (no antiemetic, wrong dose, etc) it can still be fatal.

 

[meowzers3276]

I think often when people survive antiemetics or purity issues or dosage issues come into play; rarely are there SN attempts with the correct dosage and purity and anti-emetics that fail, although I've seen it happen on here once or twice when the person swears up and down they did everything correctly. Even when people overdose "incorrectly" with SN (no antiemetic, wrong dose, etc) it can still be fatal.

i figure i'd ask now -- im prescribed quetiapine (dopamine blocker) could it function as meto with an OTC antiemetic or do i have to hunt down a meto source. cant go drs i have drug history documented so they might notice im lying n assume drug seeking

im in usa so theres not any super strong otc antiemetics but im gonna use a fast acting antiacid too

 

[rkk3]

Yeah I usually have about 8 hrs most days where I likely wouldn't be found. I'm just more worried that I will throw up or that for some reason it won't work for me.

thats what im worried about too you arent the only one im doing it soon when i can

 

[meowzers3276]

thats what im worried about too you arent the only one im doing it soon when i can

i recommend at midnight or overnight or if you have to book hotel

edit: i realise now the topic was more about throwing up in itself and not the being heard hahah, but my advice is keep 100+g and hide it veryyy well even bury it if you have to and portion out the 25ish or whatever for your attempt. if you fail youll have more and if you seal and hide it very well you can just try again. theres no long term effect besides maybe mental trauma and medical debt depending on if you get medical attention and where you live...

 

[insectontrial]

Was the OD something that could have actually caused suicide and you just happened to survive, or was it more of a self-harm type dose?

There's a difference between 8 pills and taking 94 pills; I'm not sure if the extreme pain I felt was due to the extreme number of pills and the type of pain or what.

Google tells me it could've killed me, but I think censored search engines/AI tools lean towards suicide prevention and not promoting dangerous activities. I had already consumed high strength cannabis a few hours prior (not a part of the attempt in any way, I was deliberately deceived into consuming it) as well as various types of alcohol, and then the OD itself was several promethazine tablets (I wasn't counting, it was multiple and impulsive), several pure codeine tablets (also not sure as to the exact amount but it was multiple, each with a strength of 30mg, that I had left over in the cupboard from a previous injury that I never used, as I didn't like the way it made me feel), combined with strong alcohol (40% ABV which is 80 proof if you live across the pond).

I woke up on my kitchen floor with a pounding headache, kept dissociating, and felt very uncoordinated. On top of that I couldn't cry either, I just felt very distant and flat. I knew I wouldn't try it again as a suicide method. My preferred method is hanging but I do plan to take a therapeutic dose of a sedative beforehand so the SI doesn't kick in.

I would never OD just to self-harm, for what it's worth. I do abuse prescription substances, but so that I can sleep or dissociate rather than to intentionally injure myself. But what happened to me that night four years ago was incredibly traumatic and I wanted to escape there and then. I've been passively suicidal for almost twenty years, with a few moments of active ideation, planning, and a few attempts.

 

[cocobutter]

i saw 3 full videos, idk where the links are but if you search SN it'll come eventually, unfortunately no description of the protocol because all three videos were chinese (so had mandarin caption). all that was shown was the mixture of the SN into water and subsequent ingestion.

first vid, man drank it and puked/gagged violently, he was sitting at a desk, put his head down and then eventually fell to the ground/out of frame. for the most part from his expressions i think it was just a lot of burning/acidity in the stomach, so we can assume he likely didnt use antiemetic or meto before. but i cant get meto so, might be me.

second vid, again no clear protocol, again man sitting up but on the floor, and we have the same vomiting and sort of "burning" ouchie looking sensations. from what i remember he starts tensing up and jerking, eventually falls to floor and is presumed dead, or atleast stopped moving.

third vid, woman mixes her SN and ingests it, she fans herself and expresses burning in the throat like the others, i dont think she vomited very much so maybe followed protocol. there was obvious discomfort, seen as she was breathing heavily and tossing and turning in bed. but eventually, she held onto a penguin stuffie and seemed to drift off, but was still convulsing and even had foam come out of her mouth. before she had fully stopped moving though, the camera fell.

also the convulsing described was anything from full body thrashing, tossing and turning, grand mal seizure, twitches/jerks, jaw clenching, also their eyes would be wide open. also i had the audio off because im too squeamish but i am sure there was lots of gagging and agonal breathing

also watched one more but sped it up 3× as it was over an hour long and yeah pretty much the same but this dude seemed to have it far more meticulously planned & filmed, still suffered.

meto/antiemetics can only do so much, but here's good news-- the vomiting does not 100% mean your SN attempt is a no-go. all of these people dry heaved and vomited, i do not recall if any drank more after vomiting but i know not every one did, but all of them DID die.

none of these were half hearted-- judging by the description and nature of the videos, these people were desperate and used an easily accessible chemical in their respective country to ctb. all of them died, i think the longest that i saw some one moving for was the hour long video, but he did stop fully moving around 40min mark. for the rest, cameras either fell or the person themself fell out of frame before dying.

i would be very interested in seeing a video or account of someone who did follow pph rules or atleast loosely, as i am, but unfortunately all of the full accounts we have are fails... or there is unclear protocol listed on the videos

Is there any videos of nitrogen gas method that you've seen?

 

[anxiousdweller]

so ive seen multiple videos of people taking SN, i know i will have massive gastrointestinal discomfort and probably heavy breathing/panic. but i'm wondering, once they are at the point of foaming at the mouth/convulsing, are they conscious? if anyone has medical experience or knows. i've had seizures and i didnt remember, and i'm hoping the hypoxia will make me either euphoric or neutral to any suffering my body is having.

i know all death is painful, i know mine will be, i will also be on a lot of benzos and quetiapine, im just wondering from a medical perspective when i will begin to dissociate/be unresponsive. it's so unclear in the videos. it seems they panic and puke for around 5-10min and then flop down and convulse. i'm wondering if these people are conscious after that time..?

i read some accounts of SN survivors saying they felt calm despite their symptoms, but the videos seem different. i know it also differs for everyone. im just posting threads because i'm obsessing over my own death... but if anyone has any anecdotes or advice please feel free to reply

I once almost drowned when i was younger and i remember that just before the lights went out it was all really calm

 

[meowzers3276]

Is there any videos of nitrogen gas method that you've seen?

no, because i havent considered it, but im sure if you poke around this site with search feature you could find something