summersolstice101
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- Jan 12, 2025
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Is it feasible to use tablet form for the cardiac switch protocols outlined in the PPH (e.g. 5 Drug Mix DDMAPh) which is one of the most highly rated method in terms of reliability (10) and peacefulness (10), comparable to that of N.
The questions I wanted to clarify:
1. Is it feasible to perform the cardiac switch protocols via suspension of crushed pills? i.e. would the collectively high amount of filler inactive ingredients make it unfeasible to consume in one sitting?
2. If you suggest only powdered form is feasible – do you have any guidance on how to source the powdered form of these prescription medications in Aus/NZ?
After calculating the number of tablets required it seems to be extremely high number (1005 total tablets) which need to be crushed and consumed via suspension.
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Here are my calculations
- Digoxin 100mg total, at strength of 250mcg/tablet = 400 tablets
- Diazepam 1gm total substituted* for equivalent dose of bromazolam powder 50gm
- Morphine 15gm total substituted** for equivalent dose oxycodone 10gm at 30mg/tablet = 333 tablets
- Amitriptyline 8gm total, at strength of 75mg/tablet = 106 tablets
- Phenobarbital 5gm total at strength of 30mg/tablet = 166 tablets
*bromazolam substituted as more easily sourced that diazepam
** oxycodone substituted as no DNM vendors found to sell immediate release form of morphine to Aus/NZ
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I suspect a lot of water will be required in a suspension of 1005 tablets to prevent it becoming a thick slurry – and concerned that it may difficult to consume in one sitting without inducing vomiting.
The maximum volume of stomach is around 2L to 4L, so if 600mL to 1000mL of water was used for the suspension, that would mean stomach would be around half capacity, so I wonder if it is feasible...
Do you think it is feasible to use the tablet forms?
If not, do you have any suggestions on how to source the powdered forms of some of these prescription medication to reduce the volume of tablets that need to be crushed?
Do you have any other suggestions on how to improve the feasibility of the cardiac switch protocol?
The questions I wanted to clarify:
1. Is it feasible to perform the cardiac switch protocols via suspension of crushed pills? i.e. would the collectively high amount of filler inactive ingredients make it unfeasible to consume in one sitting?
2. If you suggest only powdered form is feasible – do you have any guidance on how to source the powdered form of these prescription medications in Aus/NZ?
After calculating the number of tablets required it seems to be extremely high number (1005 total tablets) which need to be crushed and consumed via suspension.
===
Here are my calculations
- Digoxin 100mg total, at strength of 250mcg/tablet = 400 tablets
- Diazepam 1gm total substituted* for equivalent dose of bromazolam powder 50gm
- Morphine 15gm total substituted** for equivalent dose oxycodone 10gm at 30mg/tablet = 333 tablets
- Amitriptyline 8gm total, at strength of 75mg/tablet = 106 tablets
- Phenobarbital 5gm total at strength of 30mg/tablet = 166 tablets
*bromazolam substituted as more easily sourced that diazepam
** oxycodone substituted as no DNM vendors found to sell immediate release form of morphine to Aus/NZ
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I suspect a lot of water will be required in a suspension of 1005 tablets to prevent it becoming a thick slurry – and concerned that it may difficult to consume in one sitting without inducing vomiting.
The maximum volume of stomach is around 2L to 4L, so if 600mL to 1000mL of water was used for the suspension, that would mean stomach would be around half capacity, so I wonder if it is feasible...
Do you think it is feasible to use the tablet forms?
If not, do you have any suggestions on how to source the powdered forms of some of these prescription medication to reduce the volume of tablets that need to be crushed?
Do you have any other suggestions on how to improve the feasibility of the cardiac switch protocol?
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