Story Failed SN attempt: Retrospective

[Meditation guide]

Of course I would like the girl to live, and she does need help from her family... and that's obviously what she wanted as well.

You are missing the entire point of being here on this site. It's not to try to second guess anyone and make the decision they really don't want to commit suicide.

I just want you or others who might be tempted to do this to realize this site is supposed to be a refuge from that.

 

[checkouttime]

No anti-emetics?

While that is something recommended. I'm pretty sure if the OP wasn't FOUND(maybe even the fact, they explained what they had taken) then they would of CTB, that is the factor which enabled them to be 'saved'.

Although i am not an expert, I think most people who use the SN method are going to be sick. that is why it is recommended you have multiple glasses of SN to ingest.

Although i don't know the exact answer, is it even possible for someone to ingest a salt and not be sick????

 

[Deleted member 14386]

While that is something recommended. I'm pretty sure if the OP wasn't FOUND(maybe even the fact, they explained what they had taken) then they would of CTB, that is the factor which enabled them to be 'saved'.

Although i am not an expert, I think most people who use the SN method are going to be sick. that is why it is recommended you have multiple glasses of SN to ingest.

Although i don't know the exact answer, is it even possible for someone to ingest a salt and not be sick????

I mean it's defo possible, probable? Nah, not if AE and stans guide are followed, even then, still possible

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

This would be a classic call for help or attention, not a serious attempt.
Taking less (15g at most) than the lethal dose (20-25g), not taking anti-emetics previously, and above all doing it in a sole bathroom while living with parents - could only mean this person did not really wish to die, which is perfectly fine, "boredom" is certainly not a legitimate reason to end such a young life.

But this could barely be called "a failed attempt". It was not a serious attempt and was destined to fail from the very start.

Get your act together and try to fix your life, because that is what you really want to do.
The "next time" and "an EVEN BETTER attempt" would have to involve a lot more determination, preparation and planning.
Postpone all this for some time, and give yourself several more YEARS, because one day this may very well be just a bad memory.

Attempts like this one don't prove anything about the lethality of the SN method.
It's like jumping from the 2nd floor on grass or cutting one's wrists sideways and calling it a "failed attempt".

I'll just ignore your post as a whole, otherwise I'll get too upset.

But what I can't accept is wrong information.

I did a lot of research on SN and found very different information about the lethal dose. Regardless of the fact that body size has to be taken into account, I found values between 4g and 15g. Most sources mention between 7g and 10g, 15g is only mentioned once.

Your indication of 20g - 25g corresponds to the recommended amount for the ctb, which does not correspond to the lethal dose. There is clearly more to be able to be as sure as possible that it works.

Please do not give false facts, otherwise accidents happen quickly if someone wants to test their SN themselves

 

[2nd Zed]

Your confidence is inspiring!
My story has been similar:
* Buy the ingredients, hide them
* Wait till midnight
* Drink
* Vomit
* Faint right after
* Awake in the hospital
* Sent to psych ward for a month and a half, which only made my condition worse (no internet, only books + 10 patients including me all in one fucking room)
Verdict: never tell anyone about suicide, never attempt while living with someone!
My next attempt will be in a few years, when I'll have an income, and most importantly, my own place. Want to do it right now, but I won't make the same mistake, I'll wait

 

[theguineapigking]

Your confidence is inspiring!
My story has been similar:
* Buy the ingredients, hide them
* Wait till midnight
* Drink
* Vomit
* Faint right after
* Awake in the hospital
* Sent to psych ward for a month and a half, which only made my condition worse (no internet, only books + 10 patients including me all in one fucking room)
Verdict: never tell anyone about suicide, never attempt while living with someone!
My next attempt will be in a few years, when I'll have an income, and most importantly, my own place. Want to do it right now, but I won't make the same mistake, I'll wait

Holy ******* ass****** shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A ******* month and a half?! Damn those pro-lifers! I usually hear that it's 2-3 days.. Why did they hold you so long? Do you live in the USA? I am so sorry that you had to go through that bullshit man. I really am.

 

[2nd Zed]

Do you live in the USA?

No

Why did they hold you so long?

If only I knew. There were some guys my age who said they've been there for months

I am so sorry that you had to go through that bullshit man. I really am.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Edit: member deleted

Um, can you quote where I said that? I don't recall it! But hey, I'd prefer you read the successes and failures rather than rely on me as a reference unless you quote me. Also, a case has to stand out for me to remember it, and I really don't remember what you're talking about or that I said it. @Living sucks was the one who was good at remembering so many cases, she read over them several times and kept up with updating the successes and failures thread, but I don't think she's with us anymore.

 

[checkouttime]

Um, can you quote where I said that? I don't recall it! But hey, I'd prefer you read the successes and failures rather than rely on me as a reference unless you quote me. Also, a case has to stand out for me to remember it, and I really don't remember what you're talking about or that I said it. @Living sucks was the one who was good at remembering so many cases, she read over them several times and kept up with updating the successes and failures thread, but I don't think she's with us anymore.

I am really sorry i totally misread a post where we was talking about being sick, Im going to delete that post!sorry!!

 

[alexit]

Hi there,

I survived an SN attempt aswell, I think it was in july.. They locked me up in the ward soon after.. I wish this doesnt happen to you and wish you a recovery! It hurts being stuck in this shithole forever.

Now I'd just like to ask, what do you mean by 'bored with life'? Is it really that boring to the point you'd want to ctb? It's really something I don't understand. I'm the type of person who finds looking at a fly interesting.

Wish you the best!!

If you don't mind my asking, what's the worst part or parts about being committed and how do they arrive at length of stay?

 

[airboy_a380]

I'm back, this Post was the reason I needed to take a break from. I'm not gonna say what I think. I just hope there's more honesty on this site. We're all going through the same. However recently I found to be a constant flow of fairy tales on here. This is no place to judge or be judged. I've met amazing caring people here from all backgrounds. Just be kind and sincere folks To everyone. And understand that what someone post here affects people in a good or bad way. This is no insult to anyone, it's just a caring way. Life's shit and Then we die, we all know that. But don't joke with death or life. If the mods feel this message should be deleted I understand. That's all from my side. Missed you all.

 

[alexit]

cry for help

How I hate that tone around that phrase. So let me get this straight, someone putting themselves in real harm's way is to be dismissed? Whether you help them die or help them live, I think "help" is the important part. How we can turn the phrase of someone crying for help as something to dismissed....

 

[Aap]

These attempts make as much sense as similar posts to "I took a bunch of Tylenol and got really, really sick." They are either very impulsive attempts or not fully committed/cries for help. I say impulsive, as it would be difficult to do any significant research here and not come across solid recommendations or the freely available pph.

I certainly feel compassion for those who have not fully serious attempts; I just wish they didn't add to the noise here, either by making it more difficult to find more accurate information or by those, in rare cases, using it as a vehicle for attention.

 

[Deleted member 14386]

How I hate that tone around that phrase. So let me get this straight, someone putting themselves in real harm's way is to be dismissed? Whether you help them die or help them live, I think "help" is the important part. How we can turn the phrase of someone crying for help as something to dismissed....

exactly what I was thinking. "Oh this is a cry for help, gfy"
Why not try to help?! Good god

 

[kohaku]

These attempts make as much sense as similar posts to "I took a bunch of Tylenol and got really, really sick." They are either very impulsive attempts or not fully committed/cries for help. I say impulsive, as it would be difficult to do any significant research here and not come across solid recommendations or the freely available pph.

I certainly feel compassion for those who have not fully serious attempts; I just wish they didn't add to the noise here, either by making it more difficult to find more accurate information or by those, in rare cases, using it as a vehicle for attention.

My information is accurate, detailed and the method very much lethal. I'm sorry it wasn't lethal enough for you, buddy.

 

[Eren]

Thanks a lot for sharing your experience krtgrf

If you allow me to ask:

• Did you have sequels?
• Didn't you feel a stomach ache at any time?

 

[kohaku]

Thanks a lot for sharing your experience krtgrf

If you allow me to ask:

• Did you have sequels?
• Didn't you feel a stomach ache at any time?

No to both.

 

[LonelyDude15]

Thanks for providing this story. I'm planning to do SN as well, so it helps to know what to expect.

 

[mimiopo22]

Anyone curious about what a SN suicide attempt would be like, wonder no more. There are plenty of threads about this but I've chosen to summarize my experience to add one more to the books.

First of all, I'm a healthy human. I have no documented physical illnesses, healthy as a horse.

I also took 1 mg of my sweet, sweet prescription lorazepam (Ativan) an hour prior to this, but it didn't seem to do much asides from curb my anxiety. Oh, and 1 g of paracetamol, which seemed to make the whole process quite painless.

Around 00:30, I said my goodbyes to everyone and logged off. I was locked in the bathroom while everyone was asleep. I had prepared a glass of a mixture of SN and water. I had a 100g bottle of SN and put 4 sloppily measured teaspoons in the glass, which would equal roughly to 15g.

I downed the glass. Honestly? It tasted horrible, but I could stomach it. It actually still tasted better than medicine. Only issue was that I immediately wanted something to wash the gross, salty taste down with, but plain water did help a bit. I put on some music and lied down on the pillows I had laid across the bathroom floor. And listening to my song, I waited.

I could feel my hand getting cold and fingers getting numb from a lack of oxygen. My heart was starting to really speed up. It didn't hurt, but it was kind of uncomfortable, so if you want 100% peace using this method yourself I recommend some more preparation, unless, of course, you don't mind. For me, it was bearable, but that might just have been because of the lorazepam I took.

Maybe 5 minutes in I was starting to feel nauseous. I expected this, so I had another glass prepared. Vomiting SN actually felt about the same as vomiting any other substance, so I was fine with it. I just had the end goal in mind.

What I didn't expect, however, was my dad knocking on the bathroom door. I tried hiding my stuff, but at that point I kind of knew I was screwed. I threw up soon after that, and then my dad called my mom, too. At that point it was maybe... 10 or so? minutes in. I felt weak but still managed to stand until I finally left the bathroom and stumbled really bad.

Five steps out of there, I passed out and crumpled on the floor like a ragdoll. I hardly remember it now but I know I willingly told my parents what substance it was since they'd have found it anyway. I remember moving around a bit but passed out at least two more times between those movements. I sounded a little loopy and I was barely conscious.

Then my parents called the ambulance. I was awake when the paramedics came, but passed out again when they carried me to and from the ambulance. I remember they put me on oxygen. Next thing I know I'm at intensive care hooked up to different IVs for hours. Nurses told me I was lucky to be alive.

Ironically, the hospital was actually the most painful part. I was told there was around 3g SN in my system and I was at roughly 67% methemoglobinemia when they got me. The IVs were painful (according to the nurses, this was because of the poisoning making me more sensitive) and I was really cold. I was also mildly delirious, but only in the sense of just really feeling out of it and my vision drifting. Some weird mental imagery too, but it was also mild.

I'm still hospitalized. Results showed anemia and liver damage, but I should be fine.

I find it funny that, had I not wanted to keep my dignity by not dying outside, if I left home and did it in the forest, I would've been long dead. But I'll take it as it is. I'm happy to provide you all with my experience.

Onestamente? Penso di aver fatto tutto questo perché ero annoiato. Annoiato dalla vita. E sono ancora annoiato, ma la prossima volta che farò un tentativo, lo farò anche meglio di così. Grazie per aver letto.

Sentiti libero di fare domande se mi sono perso qualcosa. E sì, subito dopo sarò mandato in un reparto psichiatrico. Mi sta bene, però.

but did your father go into the bathroom because he had to go to the bathroom or because you made a noise?

 

[turin]

christ the anxiety i get just from reading this and i desperately want to us sn for my method.
is there any way of drinkin it and then having something that will make you pass out instantly?
which are the best/strongest benzos for anxiety or puttin you to sleep.. i couldn't deal with the anxiety of racing heart and tingly fingeres i'd have a panic attack and then get found

 

[Nymph]

Thanks for telling us about your experience

This would be a classic call for help or attention, not a serious attempt.
Taking less (15g at most) than the lethal dose (20-25g), not taking anti-emetics previously, and above all doing it in a sole bathroom while living with parents - could only mean this person did not really wish to die, which is perfectly fine, "boredom" is certainly not a legitimate reason to end such a young life.

But this could barely be called "a failed attempt". It was not a serious attempt and was destined to fail from the very start.

Get your act together and try to fix your life, because that is what you really want to do.
The "next time" and "an EVEN BETTER attempt" would have to involve a lot more determination, preparation and planning.
Postpone all this for some time, and give yourself several more YEARS, because one day this may very well be just a bad memory.

Attempts like this one don't prove anything about the lethality of the SN method.
It's like jumping from the 2nd floor on grass or cutting one's wrists sideways and calling it a "failed attempt".

Boredom is a legit reason for ctb. Some ppl are just bored and tired of living and continuing to suffer.

plus not everyone has access to antiemetics and just use what they have.
Even if it was just a cry for help, using poison to do that is very serious. They're so tired of life that they decided to gamble with death. They're suicidal and not okay.

 

[kohaku]

but did your father go into the bathroom because he had to go to the bathroom or because you made a noise?

He wanted to go to the bathroom. I didn't make a single noise asides from when I vomited *after* he knocked.

christ the anxiety i get just from reading this and i desperately want to us sn for my method.
is there any way of drinkin it and then having something that will make you pass out instantly?
which are the best/strongest benzos for anxiety or puttin you to sleep.. i couldn't deal with the anxiety of racing heart and tingly fingeres i'd have a panic attack and then get found

Will this chart help?

https://i.redd.it/vcfpamtrvu8x.jpg

 

[NegativeSymptoms]

Thanks for sharing your story!

 

[Sherri]

Thanks for the info, for sure it will help may ops, hope you make a quick recovery.

 

[kohaku]

Thanks for the info, for sure it will help may ops, hope you make a quick recovery.

The recovery was quick. They let me go in the three days minimum at the hospital because they said my tests all showed fine.

Then it was an ambulance ride to the psych ward, which I got out of in 20 days, on demand. Well, I'm worse again now. Trying new meds soon and if that doesn't work I might be voluntarily admitting myself to the ward as I remember it wasn't so bad there. Though who knows how long that could take and I'd like to not be in a ward for my birthday.

 

[Sherri]

The recovery was quick. They let me go in the three days minimum at the hospital because they said my tests all showed fine.

Then it was an ambulance ride to the psych ward, which I got out of in 20 days, on demand. Well, I'm worse again now. Trying new meds soon and if that doesn't work I might be voluntarily admitting myself to the ward as I remember it wasn't so bad there. Though who knows how long that could take and I'd like to not be in a ward for my birthday.

Do what your heart tells you to do, only you can know what's better for you. I've been to a ward a few moons back and all they did was feeding pills all day long. The food was horrible to. Hope your ward is better than the one I've been. Hugs and good luck in your decision.

 

[Wanderingthroughdark]

Holy ******* ass****** shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A ******* month and a half?! Damn those pro-lifers! I usually hear that it's 2-3 days.. Why did they hold you so long? Do you live in the USA? I am so sorry that you had to go through that bullshit man. I really am.

I was in a psych ward for 17 months because i did an attempt witb alot of paracetamol

 

[hʚll]

I was in a psych ward for 17 months because i did an attempt witb alot of paracetamol

?? what country is this
feel free to not answer though
i'm so sorry you had to be locked for such a long time

 

[Wanderingthroughdark]

?? what country is this
feel free to not answer though
i'm so sorry you had to be locked for such a long time

The Netherlands. But to be honest. There was alot more going on at that moment

 

[mini_weeny]

Is SN less effective if I already have anemia 10 hemoglobin level?