Method Exit bag and inert gas megathread

[gettingkindatired]

I've been studying the nitrogen method a bit, but it doesn't seem to be all that swift and pleasant for me.

I have tried out this experiment several times. I filled a big plastic bag with nitrogen. Then I started to inhale from the bag and exhale into the open air. I assumed this would cause a similar experience to a real attempt, without any risks of injury. After 60 seconds or so this was getting really unpleasant, but I didn't feel like I was losing conciousness.
(For comparison, I can draw a deep breath of air and hold it for 90 seconds with less distress.)

Any idea why I react in this way?
- I suppose some oxygen will seep into the bag and my lungs when I breathe, but it shouldn't be enough to keep me concious for this long.
- I don't believe my nitrogen is contaminated by carbon dioxide or anything else. I have bought two bottles from different suppliers, so getting deficient products twice would be very unlikely. And even if it was contaminated, my negative reaction should be instant, not a gradual increase.

 

[outrider567]

I've been studying the nitrogen method a bit, but it doesn't seem to be all that swift and pleasant for me.

I have tried out this experiment several times. I filled a big plastic bag with nitrogen. Then I started to inhale from the bag and exhale into the open air. I assumed this would cause a similar experience to a real attempt, without any risks of injury. After 60 seconds or so this was getting really unpleasant, but I didn't feel like I was losing conciousness.
(For comparison, I can draw a deep breath of air and hold it for 90 seconds with less distress.)

Any idea why I react in this way?
- I suppose some oxygen will seep into the bag and my lungs when I breathe, but it shouldn't be enough to keep me concious for this long.
- I don't believe my nitrogen is contaminated by carbon dioxide or anything else. I have bought two bottles from different suppliers, so getting deficient products twice would be very unlikely. And even if it was contaminated, my negative reaction should be instant, not a gradual increase.

You don't exhale into the open air, you exhale into the bag, that bag must be completely over your head, and get an oximeter to watch your Oxygen levels(ten second delay on actual readings don't forget)--An EEBD hood is more reliable, after just 5 breaths my Oxygen level dropped to 40(but took the hood off at 77)at 25 LPM

 

[gettingkindatired]

You don't exhale into the open air, you exhale into the bag, that bag must be completely over your head, and get an oximeter to watch your Oxygen levels(ten second delay on actual readings don't forget)--An EEBD hood is more reliable, after just 5 breaths my Oxygen level dropped to 40(but took the hood off at 77)at 25 LPM

Thanks, but you must have misread. I wrote that I wanted to create an experience similar to an attempt, without risk of injury. Practice sessions with hood/bag pulled down and gas flowing would be too unsafe for my taste.

But how did you feel physically and mentally during your trial, if I may ask?

 

[outrider567]

Thanks, but you must have misread. I wrote that I wanted to create an experience similar to an attempt, without risk of injury. Practice sessions with hood/bag pulled down and gas flowing would be too unsafe for my taste.

But how did you feel physically and mentally during your trial, if I may ask?

I didn't misread anything, you complained about the Nitrogen method, yet you did a faulty test that means nothing--Of course what I did was unsafe, but don't make ill informed remarks about the effectiveness of the foolproof Nitrogen method by doing a test that is, frankly, ridiculous
I felt fine both physically and mentally even when the Oximeter dropped to 40(supposedly you don't pass out til your Oxygen drops to 25)--Das_Nichts passed out doing the test, only saved because he fell down, dislodging the tubing--He stated that he peacefully went unconscious

 

[HouseofMortok]

The moment you took a breath from that bag it was diluted with oxygen.

 

[zardofan]

A note of caution: just want to remind folks that seriously lethal methods are not to be played with and can't really be "tested" to "see what it's like" without risking accidentally dying. My best suggestion is to read real accounts of witnessed hypoxia w inert gasses, follow the well established protocol without attempting to improve on it, practice by doing dry runs without the gas on, and if/when ready, turn the gas on. Can you still fail? Sure. But your chances for success are a lot better if you replicate the tried and true and don't mess with it. Inert gasses in particular are hailed for being super quick (~minute to LOC, 10-30 for death) and almost as peaceful as N. The pain in the ass with the method is how complicated it is to set up (well, expensive too). This is why there's so much discussion about tiny details. A zero oxygen environment will kill you, period. But trying to experience it without actually dying is super risky and could even be called a fool's errand. PPEH is an excellent resource for the curious.