Help drowning

[D3M0LITI0N_H3ARTxo]

has anyone here ever tried drowning? is there a thread for it somewhere? any survivors talk about it? it's something I've been considering and I literally don't care how painful it is I honestly want the most painful way out. I just want answers

 

[MetallicCognition]

A distant family friend killed themself by walking into a lake. I don't know any more details than that as it was insensitive to press for details at the time.

However, I've heard that it's a very difficult method to pull off successfully as your survival instinct is very strong, and your subconscious will reflexively take over control of your body and pull you out if it's possible to do so. So to be successful I think you have to take physical control away, such as tying yourself to a weight that will sink and you can't detach yourself from easily.

It's also a very unpleasant way to go. Drowning is used as torture for a good reason. I would consider other methods if I were you.

 

[ChainedCrow]

there is a lot of stories from those who nearly drowned not even CTB. Generally at first its really uncomfortable like panic setting in, swallowing water, cough reflex and after water enters your lungs u should feel peace and a strange calm u can look at the poll answers from a paper about drowing and to also quote the same paper "Immediately (after inhaling water) you will feel very relaxed and peaceful for a moment or two, also with no fear, until everything goes black and you pass out.". Its hard to pull of because like the user above me said your survival instict will kick in and u will try to get out. Not knowing how to swim losing consciousness from the impact after a jump to the water or somehow making yourself unable to swim above will greatly help your chances of actually drowning. Much love

 

[carebare@2000]

has anyone here ever tried drowning? is there a thread for it somewhere? any survivors talk about it? it's something I've been considering and I literally don't care how painful it is I honestly want the most painful way out. I just want answers

Drowning is a method that I considered in the past

 

[Intoxicated]

However, I've heard that it's a very difficult method to pull off successfully as your survival instinct is very strong, and your subconscious will reflexively take over control of your body and pull you out if it's possible to do so. So to be successful I think you have to take physical control away, such as tying yourself to a weight that will sink and you can't detach yourself from easily.

It's also a very unpleasant way to go. Drowning is used as torture for a good reason. I would consider other methods if I were you.

If drowning is so unpleasant and the "survival instinct" is so strong, how would you explain why these people couldn't just get out of the bathtub, the creek, and the spa?

Los Angeles County Medical Examiner

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Police: Woman Drowns After Huffing Spray And Passing Out

The dead woman found face down in a Fayetteville creek last week has been identified by police as 30-year-old Patricia Sprouse. Sprouse’s body was found last We...

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Man drowns in Surfers Paradise spa after inhaling 'nangs', police say

Police are investigating the drowning death of a man in Surfers Paradise, believed to be linked with "nangs".

www.abc.net.au

 

[MetallicCognition]

If drowning is so unpleasant and the "survival instinct" is so strong, how would you explain why these people couldn't just get out of the bathtub, the creek, and the spa?

Los Angeles County Medical Examiner

me.lacounty.gov

Police: Woman Drowns After Huffing Spray And Passing Out

The dead woman found face down in a Fayetteville creek last week has been identified by police as 30-year-old Patricia Sprouse. Sprouse’s body was found last We...

web.archive.org

Man drowns in Surfers Paradise spa after inhaling 'nangs', police say

Police are investigating the drowning death of a man in Surfers Paradise, believed to be linked with "nangs".

www.abc.net.au

What? All three of those people were unconscious. Survival instinct obviously only applies if you are conscious.

I previously said:

your subconscious will reflexively take over control of your body and pull you out if it's possible to do so

and

to be successful I think you have to take physical control away

..such as being unconscious.

I'm not sure why you linked these articles as an example of failure of survival instinct.

 

[Intoxicated]

I'm not sure why you linked these articles as an example of failure of survival instinct.

I linked those articles in order to demonstrate that drowning doesn't necessarily have to happen in the way you described. If you visit a dental surgeon for extraction of your tooth, you'd likely expect that the doctor will apply proper analgesia/anesthesia before commencing the operation. Likewise, the common sodium nitrite poisoning protocol recommends to use benzodiazepines to alleviate discomfort before LOC occurs. What does stop us from considering the same idea for drowning?

If you're really concerned about possible discomfort from drowning and your low tolerance to it, it would be logical to consider available substances that can reduce intensity and duration of unpleasant experience to bare minimum. There are cheap cans with butane or propane-butane that cost $3 - $10. A culinary dispenser with N2O chargers and a pack of plastic bags or latex balloons may be purchased for about $30 - $50. Inhaling any of these gases can induce unconsciousness in about half a minute (I've tried to inhale nitrous and can confirm that it works very fast). So with a proper preparation, drowning may be superior to many other methods in terms of discomfort and reliability.

 

[BaronVon]

There is a previous study that was carried out from the past from persons brought back after drowning , the overall feedback was that generally it was not painful, only the initial phase then it was more euphoric

 

[Ariel1]

I linked those articles in order to demonstrate that drowning doesn't necessarily have to happen in the way you described. If you visit a dental surgeon for extraction of your tooth, you'd likely expect that the doctor will apply proper analgesia/anesthesia before commencing the operation. Likewise, the common sodium nitrite poisoning protocol recommends to use benzodiazepines to alleviate discomfort before LOC occurs. What does stop us from considering the same idea for drowning?

If you're really concerned about possible discomfort from drowning and your low tolerance to it, it would be logical to consider available substances that can reduce intensity and duration of unpleasant experience to bare minimum. There are cheap cans with butane or propane-butane that cost $3 - $10. A culinary dispenser with N2O chargers and a pack of plastic bags or latex balloons may be purchased for about $30 - $50. Inhaling any of these gases can induce unconsciousness in about half a minute (I've tried to inhale nitrous and can confirm that it works very fast). So with a proper preparation, drowning may be superior to many other methods in terms of discomfort and reliability.

Can you explain? Do you spray the butane into a later balloon and then inhale it and you pass out?

 

[Intoxicated]

Can you explain? Do you spray the butane into a later balloon and then inhale it and you pass out?

Inhaling from a balloon would be the safest and probably most convenient way, but technically it's possible to inhale the gas directly from the can. Air dusters or computer cleaners commonly have triggers that are very easy to push. They may contain propane-butane or hydrofluorocarbons like difluoroethane or tetrafluoroethane. The effect of inhaling such gases is nearly the same - the gas displaces oxygen from the lungs, and then the lungs remove some part of oxygen from the blood stream. When the blood loses too much oxygen, you lose consciousness. This effect is quickly reversible if you resume breathing with fresh air which then saturates the blood stream with oxygen, that leads to regaining consciousness in a few seconds. When there is no access to fresh air or oxygen, unconsciousness may be maintained for a long time.

When inhaling straight from a can, it would be better to avoid tilting the can in order to prevent the liquid coming from the nozzle instead of the gas.

In order to pass out as fast as possible, it's important to exhale as much air from the lungs as possible before inhaling the asphyxiant gas. The following video demonstrates how quickly fainting may occur.

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A possible disadvantage of air dusters / computer cleaners is that they may contain odorants with a somewhat bitter smell. This may be not a critical issue (considering how some people don't mind ingesting pentobarbital that has disgusting bitter taste), but nevertheless it makes sense to take a look at better gases that are more pleasant to inhale.

This is an example of passing out from inhaling nitrous from a balloon

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Nitrous has a light sweet smell and is comfortable for inhaling. Although this guy used a big gas cylinder, laughing gas may be obtained in small culinary chargers



This girl was just having fun with nitrous without passing out completely, because she didn't exhale too much oxygen from the lungs, so the remaining amount of oxygen was sufficient to keep her in some semi-conscious state.

If nitrous is unavailable due to local restrictions, nitrogen chargers for nitro cold brew may be considered next



Nitrogen is odorless and should be comfortable to inhale like nitrous.