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LoveTakesManyForms

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I'm not sure if basing your beliefs on the actions of scammers and grifters is the best idea. Even some of the supposed Christian sects are obvious scams. See: megachurches, anyone on television, jet airplane owners, and etc.
I'd have to agree with that, which is precisely why I believe it's all hogwash, hence my post.
To play on people's fundamental fear of death and the unknown and profit from it... that's low. Real low.
Suicide by cop is a method some people seriously suggest, but there are cases I have read of where people try this and they get shot and knocked down and captured but they don't ctb and they get a long prison sentence- it's way too risky of something like this happening in my opinoin. (Another consideration is that it can give ptsd to the cop.)
PTSD for cops/onlookers & resultant therapy + gunshot wound to the abdomen, ongoing pain & resultant medical issues/treatment + conviction and punishment = raw, raw deal.
Suicide by cop is a true act of desperation and surely a poor choice when compared with many other methods.
 
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TakeMeBack07

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Jan 16, 2022
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This fear is caused by religion probably. its nonsense.
 
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Journeytoletgo

Broken and hated 7-14 years long overdue
May 14, 2018
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another reason they Instill this fear is because they don't want to deal with the grief of losing someone
 
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Eternity

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I personally do not believe in hell. But if I go to hell, atleast I know someone's waiting for me. My boyfriend ctb'd two years ago
 
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TakeMeBack07

Failure
Jan 16, 2022
128
I do not believe there is such a thing as a hell after this life. There is no evidence. All life is completely meaningless, we only exist because people decided to selfishly procreate. Life is a pointless experience that we go through for the sake of it, and when we die I believe there will be nothing. We are all brought into this world just to suffer and I see death as being the end to all pain.
I don't think we were brought here to suffer. It doesnt make sense to say that since the universe is indifferent to our existence.
 
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JoeyJoey

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I personally do not believe in hell. But if I go to hell, atleast I know someone's waiting for me. My boyfriend ctb'd two years ago
Shit. So sorry your BF passed.
 
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Capsicum_Corral

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Dec 10, 2021
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I'd have to agree with that, which is precisely why I believe it's all hogwash, hence my post.
To play on people's fundamental fear of death and the unknown and profit from it... that's low. Real low.
Aside from a couple notable examples from the middle east, most religious source books specifically prohibit the behavior of the grifters and scammers. If anything, they're examples of religious corruption that people should avoid. They only have the prominence and reach they do among those who simply ignore the tenets of their own religion.

Anyway, my main point is the scammers and grifters don't represent the religions they claim to. As for suicide sending people to whatever 'hell' is, I'm not familiar with any specific reference to that, but I'm also not a religious scholar.
Suicide by cop is a true act of desperation and surely a poor choice when compared with many other methods.
Really, one of the worst possible attempts. Most shot by police end up living, but now their is body wrecked by bullets, and they're probably spending some years in prison. Think your life was bad before? Try prison.

To be fair, those people are generally not thinking clearly, having a bad drug experience, or both.
 
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Guys forgive me I have very poor communication skills and social skills, so its very difficult to get what I mean into words. I was just talking about finding enlightenment and meditation, I am not really identified with any religion, but study teachings from Zen Buddhism, Sufism, Hinduism and the Bible. I should of just said that. I am an idiot. God to me represents the infinite. I do think religion is bs tho but there is some gold in the mud, not all of it is bs (at least to me). Christianity talks about virtues and morals which are important to me and I empathise with that, Buddhism talks about the human condition and I also empathise that.

Look at the world with your own two eyes, with no judgement, just observation. There is no magic out there. Everything can be explained with science. Yes, we don't know how the universe came to be and this is still an ongoing question. But that doesn't meant it can't be solved in time. The computer, Einsteins theory of relativity, the heliocentric model of our solar system, all of these things were not overnight discoveries. But I guess what I meant to say is that ultimately I do not know. No one does, and if they say they do they are full of shit and are trying to sell you on something. So the search for truth ultimately continues on.

The stoics say "amor fati." Which means to love one fate, as soon as were born we were already predisposed to a certain kind of fate. A fate that is guided by our environment, our parents, our DNA (genetics), our culture, our society, our friends etc. Nobody knows this fate and we still have to blindly keep on making decisions. Who knows if we are making the right ones. We are humans not omniscient beings, we have fallacies, we are imperfect. We are also animals. Being at the top of the food chain and not have to worry about other predators, we forget that. We forget our place in the world. We forget our place in the universe. An ant doesn't know all the machinations of the ant maze.

Sometimes I wish my life could be different but no matter how much I wish it to be so, there are some things that I can't change. Suffering is immutable.

They say the truth hurts and sometimes it can break your heart. That is not to say that what I am saying is the truth. This doesn't mean we should reject the truth and entertain delusions, just because the truth is painful, or maybe it does if it helps you sleep at night. The search for truth should always be ongoing. This doesn't mean we can't dream. I think the nature of human beings is fundamentally incompatible with the world. Thats why I think life is a tragedy.
 
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Onthe29th

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Dec 28, 2021
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Well, I'm going to hell anyway. I might as well go early I guess…
 
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Passersby

Trapped in space and time
Aug 29, 2019
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If this is the case then hell yes! Of course it's unfair. It's unfair as hell. I personally believe that suicide is the right of the individual regardless of the reason. Even if there is no reason at all. If we don't have control over our own bodies and minds then we have nothing. This goes for living and dying. We were never free to begin with.
 
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Journeytoletgo

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May 14, 2018
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The other side sounds peaceful I hate i waited this long
 

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