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No. For me, it's more worth adopting, helping someone in need
No. For me, it's more worth adopting, helping someone in need
I don't think it's fair that one has to go through an entire existence of suffering simply because whimsical women find it endearing. Antinatalism is a matter of ethics, not individual freedom.
If you want to talk ethics, maybe consider the use of words such as "whimsical" and "endearing". But whatever.
So if a woman is a psychopath or a narciccist (not saying the op is one, by any means!), should they still be allowed to choose wether they want a child they can abuse or not? Would that still be morally right? Coz that's practically what you're saying right now. You need to try to see every aspect of things. Besides, how would it be humane for a child to grow up in a society with sky high expectations, messed up mental health system, a government that doesn't give a shit about you etc.?
Yes, antinatalism is a matter of ethics, but personal ethics, and it's upon the individual to make the right choice for themselves. Individual liberty cannot be bypassed when talking about ethics because... where's the ethic in that?
Not saying it's desirable for a mentally unstable individual to give birth but how do you ensure that without impinging on individual liberty and freedom? Or are you proposing a world where everything is controlled by institutions?
Exactly. I love how 90% of the people on a site who are pissed off about getting their rights taken away are for other people's rights being taken away.
Not when the choice in question leads to incalculable (quite literally) suffering. No personal desire of others justifies my inability to consent in being born.
The idea of requiring a license to have children has been debated for many years, but it raises significant ethical and practical concerns. The decision to have children is considered a fundamental human right, and imposing a licensing system could be seen as a violation of personal freedom and reproductive autonomy. Additionally, determining who should be allowed to have children and who should not raises complex moral and legal questions. Instead, many societies focus on providing education, healthcare, and social support to help ensure the well-being of children and families.
I don't see the contradiction in that. I don't think crackheads should be allowed to purchase firearms, per say. Unreasonable "rights" lead to mayhem.
Would you have minced the same words if you had an amazing life? Also, consent doesn't exist in nature; it's a human construct like ethics or freedom or whatever. You play the cards you're dealt. If you're unhappy about it, do something, even if it means ctb. You weren't asked for consent when brought into the world and nobody can stop you if you really wanna ctb either. I think it's fair game.
And where did I say ppl should have their freedom taken away? I'm not going to refuse a person to give birth, I couldn't give two fucks about what ppl do with their lives. All I'm saying is that it isn't humane in any circumstances to have children coz the child is going to suffer wether you like it or not. You should think about the children too, not just the parents!
As much as I would hate a child suffering, this license thing sounds pretty dumb to me. How about we "waste" our resources on building a better society with less crime and stress instead?
And that's why we need significantly better systems to help, support and protect children (all vulnerable dependents). But speaking generally, yes, I firmly believe that all women should have the right to make her own decisions about her own fertility.
