Do you think AI art could ever beat the (commercial) success of human art?

[noname223]

I listened to an AI expert and he said something like AGI will replace almost all jobs except the ones where it matters that a human takes part in it.

To my mind came psychotherapy and prostitution. I know in both jobs they try to replace it with AI but I don't think AI will ever replace that except if AI actually develops a consciousness.

He said AGI won't replace human art. I am not so sure about that. Personally, I listen to soulles AI music. Some songs are pretty good but I am not really good at judging that. I could imagine if AI improves more and more drastically I could imagine AI art could compete with human art commercially.

What do you think?

 

[FoxSauce]

As a person that likes art and want to do it for a living it honestly scares me.

It takes away the effort plus and creative process plus people will use that to be like : "like yeah I made this" when the ai did everything.

Ofc ai art can used as a reference or character desing but still there will be people who used this for passing art as theirs which no effort at all.

For example in yt theres a short that the creator of studio Ghibli didn't appreciate when the ai art was released : all of his work for everyone else to use.

In hindsight, theres ai that can make animations for you. Soon enough it could take peoples jobs away away for sure.

 

[derpyderpins]

What you say about ai music being "soulless" is the avenue to a deep and difficult subject.

What ai art/music/whatever threatens that people don't want to talk about is the narrative we tell ourselves about our own art. (From hear on "art" will incorporate music and any other form like poetry, I'm speaking generally. From my perspective, music is my craft.)

What makes my art have value? To me, there's the growing process, sure. There's learning about myself, the satisfaction of a new skill, introspection. But as far as the end product, what people see, where is the value? It's not in the effort. My early work took much more effort and was not nearly as good. To me, the value to someone else cannot be measured in any way by the behind the scenes work that went in, on that logic.

The value is the effect it has on the consumer. Enjoyment and utility, certainly, but artists like to believe there's more. I certainly do, at least. A look into the human consciousness, emotional connection that can't be done with words, essentially the "soul" speaking it's own language. This means that the product gives this special "me" flavor, and that flavor has value for its uniqueness. It's born from my heart, my life, dreams, and experiences. That's the narrative I tell myself as an artist.

So... AI... It makes "soulless" art. If other people consume that art and find it to be an adequate or superior replacement to the real thing, what that tells us that we'd rather ignore is that either (a) our assumptions and explanation of the value, above, are wrong, or (b) MY art is simply not as good or unique as I hoped it was. That's the dagger. If something without a soul can do a good enough job, then what I've been doing and putting effort into wasn't crossing some threshold where it became something of true value.

Another sad explanation is that we've neglected the arts so much that the average consumer simply has no appreciation for what sets a soulful piece apart. But in such a society your art had no monetary value anyway, at least not for the reasons you wanted it to.

We're long overdue for a cultural Renaissance, but refuse to change working habits to allow for dedication to the finer things.

 

[Someonewhotypes]

well, I think it comes down to preference. Some don't care how a pretty image/movie/song was created and only care about the end result being good or catered to them.
Others are very much against AI and if they know that art was created with AI, they will avoid it.
For example, I remember seeing some music video created with AI, where comments either said they were disappointed the band has used AI in the music video, whereas other people praised the song.
There are many people who don't even realize something was created with AI and will consume it thinking it was human created. The internet is a confusing place and let's be honest, we don't always check labels or titles (at least I don't) so if it's not obviously created with AI, lots of people will like it without even noticing it's AI.

So I believe it all comes down to preference. AI is already competing commercially with human made art. What's needed is clarity so that people can make informed choices on their preference

 

[Cauliflour]

As a person that likes art and want to do it for a living it honestly scares me.

I'm an artist aswell so I can pick up on the little details which make AI images AI subconsciously (I've always been able to tell just based on vibes, bit hard to explain I think it's an autism thing). It's reached the point where I've become paranoid and mistaking actual art for AI art at a first glance before realising that it makes no sense for an animation studio to be using AI images on their bus adverts for their film so it must be part of the pool of scraped data it collected. I'm mentioning this because I saw you in some other posts (I'm pretty good at recognising and remembering people just from their pfp) and I immediately assumed it was AI and now I feel bad because on closer inspection, it seems to be drawn on sketchbook paper and was probably drawn by you so I'm sorry for thinking you were ignorant or an AI bro...

AI "music" (it's audio really) is shit. It's the most generic ass autotuned to hell slop my ears have ever heard. And what really rubs me the wrong way is how Suno keeps going on about how "anyone can make music now" when websites like Bandlab exist where you can do that for free pretty easily.

 

[FoxSauce]

I'm an artist aswell so I can pick up on the little details which make AI images AI subconsciously (I've always been able to tell just based on vibes, bit hard to explain I think it's an autism thing). It's reached the point where I've become paranoid and mistaking actual art for AI art at a first glance before realising that it makes no sense for an animation studio to be using AI images on their bus adverts for their film so it must be part of the pool of scraped data it collected. I'm mentioning this because I saw you in some other posts (I'm pretty good at recognising and remembering people just from their pfp) and I immediately assumed it was AI and now I feel bad because on closer inspection, it seems to be drawn on sketchbook paper and was probably drawn by you so I'm sorry for thinking you were ignorant or an AI bro...

AI "music" (it's audio really) is shit. It's the most generic ass autotuned to hell slop my ears have ever heard. And what really rubs me the wrong way is how Suno keeps going on about how "anyone can make music now" when websites like Bandlab exist where you can do that for free pretty easily.

To be completly I just thw profile pic from pinterest but thanks


I wish I could art as beautiful as that but mine isn't like wow enough

 

[Cauliflour]

To be completly I just thw profile pic from pinterest but thanks


I wish I could art as beautiful as that but mine isn't like wow enough

oh. i look a bit weird now oops