Wow I felt like I wrote that myself. I am exactly the same I cannot seem to feel any attraction to or remain interested in people who are not narcissist despite literally not wanting to. It's like I crave the excitement, the upheaval, the fighting and I equate that with love...even though I know it's wrong. I wonder what causes people to become this way? I'm sure it has a lot to do with childhood. I had a very emotionally absent father who never showed me much love and all I saw growing up was fighting between my parents. I should just avoid relationships all together.
Yes, back years ago I was mildly surprised that narcissists and sociopaths existed, but felt the "bad" once were very rare, and the subject movies. But then I began to see that there are also "good" ones, not subjects of movies, and not obvious to outsiders, and not necessarily evil criminals, are everywhere, once you learn to look for the traits. One estimate is that 1 in 25 people are diagnosable sociopaths! I once heard that a such psychopaths wakes up each morning refreshed and smile, thinking oh great a new day to wreak havoc on the world!
Does this ring true dealing with sociopaths / narcissists?
When asked how would you know you are with one of these personality types, one scholar said:
...the best clue is, of all things, the pity play. The most reliable sign, the most universal behavior of unscrupulous people is not directed, as one might imagine, at our fearfulness. It is, perversely, an appeal to our sympathy."
Does this ring true dealing with sociopaths / narcissists?
When asked how would you know you are with one of these personality types, one scholar said:
...the best clue is, of all things, the pity play. The most reliable sign, the most universal behavior of unscrupulous people is not directed, as one might imagine, at our fearfulness. It is, perversely, an appeal to our sympathy."
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Morphosis
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I would love to read those publications @realjunes.
I do have an extreme narcissist in my life at the minute, the most manipulative and self-absorbed person I have ever met..... hasn't contributed to me being here but is an emotional vampire who literally drains me. As mentioned before I think they are attracted to vulnerable people and Empaths in particular!
I do have an extreme narcissist in my life at the minute, the most manipulative and self-absorbed person I have ever met..... hasn't contributed to me being here but is an emotional vampire who literally drains me. As mentioned before I think they are attracted to vulnerable people and Empaths in particular!
Morphosis
Experienced
- Sep 22, 2019
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LOL.... address on its way. It's a girl though, does that make a difference? Wouldn't want chivalry to prevent you throttling her
LOL.... address on its way. It's a girl though, does that make a difference? Wouldn't want chivalry to prevent you throttling her
Whoops.
Morphosis
Experienced
- Sep 22, 2019
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You've already listened to me tearing my hair out and spewing steam from every orifice after recent encounters, have backed off considerably but thought she was a good example
Empathic people v. Narcissists:
⦁ Empaths have a lot of compassion and understanding to give, while narcissists thrive on someone worshipping them.
⦁ But this isn't a good match, because empaths tend to forgive everything the narcissist does.
⦁ This results in them being completely used and degraded, while the narcissist creates more and more chaos.
Actually Sociopaths have a conscience its only weak. Only psychopaths are born without any conscience because of how theire brain works. Still sociopaths tend to act more impulsive and aggressive so they probably are more dangerous.
Hmm. Well my former CEO was a huge jerk in general, I worked at a "reputable" tech company, and this dude always picked on the cleaners in front of everyone just to humiliate them and mock their work. I don't think he was a sociopath... well he wasn't very discrete. Maybe just a very angry man with a superiority complex.
Other than that, I'm a huge loner, so I don't really have that much of an experience with these people.
I've been reading about suicide and related topics for as long as I had internet access as a young kid though. I don't think that narcs or socios are the reason I'm here.
Other than that, I'm a huge loner, so I don't really have that much of an experience with these people.
I've been reading about suicide and related topics for as long as I had internet access as a young kid though. I don't think that narcs or socios are the reason I'm here.
Every one of the reasons I want to ctb was precipitated by a sociopath or narc.
That's very interesting. I have not had many partners. When I was mentally healthy the few partners I had were kind, good men. I would not have been attracted to anyone who put me down. The first new romantic relationship I formed since becoming mentally unwell was with someone who must have had NPD. I notice the "spark" isn't there with seemingly more decent people, and wonder if my self esteem has been damaged so much I'm now only attracted to people who alternate putting me down with narc type validation. I wonder if this is quite common. I remember as young woman not understanding why some friends seemed to go for "bastards", maybe low self esteem was the answer and it really is all that clear cut
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Yes. I worked for a sociopath. I don't know for sure but I think she was jealous of me (she had no experience or education in the field but tried to run a business in it - and she was a horrible business owner!). She was abusive, mean and really didn't know what she was doing. She chastised me in a voice I used to use on my kindeegarten students. I got very sick because of her and I only had the job for six months. When she terminated me "because of COVID" I was over the moon with joy, relatively speaking. I'm really good at what I do but because she was so belittling and thought she could do no wrong I turned into a beat up and defeated person who doubted everything.
