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Arcitect

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Oct 22, 2023
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I was just wondering if you guys here believe in ghosts or the paranormal. One of my greatest fears is becoming a ghost after I CTB. I don't want to be trapped here on Earth for eternity.

I believe in ghosts because I saw one as a young kid. There was a shadow on the wall, an adult male's shadow. The only one in the house matching that description was my Dad, and he was dead in the backyard. Both my Dad and Mom had been shot in the head. My brother was injured but survived. To this day I believe that shadow was my Dad saying goodbye. I called out to it, but it just disappeared.

Has anyone else here seen a ghost? I'd appreciate it if I could hear your stories. I'm curious.
 
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Life_and_Death

Life_and_Death

Do what's best for you 🕯️ I'm de-stressing
Jul 1, 2020
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im not sure. i think ive seen ghosts...but ive also had hallucinations
 
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achb

achb

I am Clive
Oct 23, 2023
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I do not believe in ghosts. Nor do I believe in God. However, one of my biggest fears in comitting (aside from failing and getting caught) is becoming a ghost or having to endure an afterlife.

I'm just so tired of living. There's barely anything wrong with my life I just don't want to live. To be forced to live again in a psuedo life form terrifies me. Eternal life after death terrifies me. I can't fathom how horrible it would be.
 
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doneforlife

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Jul 18, 2023
486
No I don't believe in ghosts. I believe it's all in your mind, framing stuff. And even if there were ghosts , what exactly would they be trapped with? I am assuming they don't have a body. So they don't need food, clothing, housing. So if you can forego all these and still exist , where exactly is the problem 😂. Boredom??
 
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Someone123

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Oct 19, 2021
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I haven't seen one myself, but I've heard enough from other people to believe that they exist. :)
 
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Arcitect

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Oct 22, 2023
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No I don't believe in ghosts. I believe it's all in your mind, framing stuff. And even if there were ghosts , what exactly would they be trapped with? I am assuming they don't have a body. So they don't need food, clothing, housing. So if you can forego all these and still exist , where exactly is the problem 😂. Boredom??
My problem would be that I'm still stuck here. For an eternity, instead of moving on :/. I tried to right my wrongs and release my regrets but idk what'll happen when I go.
 
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doneforlife

Arcanist
Jul 18, 2023
486
My problem would be that I'm still stuck here. For an eternity, instead of moving on :/. I tried to right my wrongs and release my regrets but idk what'll happen when I go.
If you believe in an afterlife , you will be stuck somewhere, right ? Even if you move on to some new realms , after few years , the feeling of getting "stuck" will emerge there as well, right ? If life is "eternal" , it inherently means we are all "stuck".
 
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If you believe in an afterlife , you will be stuck somewhere, right ? Even if you move on to some new realms , after few years , the feeling of getting "stuck" will emerge there as well, right ? If life is "eternal" , it inherently means we are all "stuck".
You've got a point there. But, based on all the probably bogus ghost shows I've seen it looks like ghosts have "energy". I wouldn't want to spend an eternity constricted by a small energy bar. I did hear though that batteries drain faster in the presence of a ghost, not sure how true that is though :/.
 
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doneforlife

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Jul 18, 2023
486
You've got a point there. But, based on all the probably bogus ghost shows I've seen it looks like ghosts have "energy". I wouldn't want to spend an eternity constricted by a small energy bar. I did hear though that batteries drain faster in the presence of a ghost, not sure how true that is though :/.
He he , not sure about battery drainage, never heard about it. Our brain , apart from the sentient part , is like any computing device. The brain also gets trained (in a cognitive manner) by the data it receives from the environment and surrounding. Live with people who believe in ghosts and keep spreading supposed stories about ghosts and there you are! A trained brain with lot of "supposed" data about ghosts.

As far as regrets and doing right is concerned, we should anyways do it. Because it affects real people. Because righting a wrong is what we should do. We are gifted with that power to differentiate..many other species can't.

And if you still want to believe in an after life , please train the brain to believe in a life where you find fulfillment, happiness, and eternal bliss..not some ghostly stuff..🙂.
 
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HollowDrop

HollowDrop

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Oct 4, 2023
135
I don't but sometimes I wish I was less of a scientific/logic person so I could believe in the paranormal. It's a very fascinating subject nonetheless.
 
Undertow Mermaid

Undertow Mermaid

Human Centipede is a tour de force
Feb 5, 2023
58
I used to. As a kid I went to a book fair and they had a ghost hunters guide book, so naturally I used my allowence to buy it. As I got older I got into a lot of horror books, and TV shows about the paranormal. But now as I've become a jaded adult I don't think ghosts exsist. I do believe in energy though, I believe houses can absorb a lot of negative energy, as well as positive. It's why you can walk into a room and feel at ease, or feel uncomfortable. (At least that's why I think so.)

I've lived in a house where my grandparents died. I was passed out on the living room couch late at night, woken by what I thought was an older man standing in the hallway staring at me from the darkness. I pulled the blanket over my head and closed my eyes tight. I never saw that shadow man again, but I did ask my mom about older men in the house and she mentioned my grandfather died in the house, colon cancer. His room was right down the hall -- the same exact hallway the shadow person stood in.

Even with that spooky moment I still don't believe in ghosts. But you never know, and if I ever encountered hard evidence I would surely become a devoute believer.
 
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リンさん

リンさん

Rina • she/her, lesbian
Sep 9, 2023
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I don't believe in them, but I wouldn't mind being one in theory.

But only the kind that can communicate with people and exists on a level beyond physical. Big part of why I wanna CTB is physical distress.
 
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Rhizomorph1

Rhizomorph1

May you find peace in living or dying
Oct 24, 2023
624
There's a whole sub-discipline of psychology called parapsychology dedicated to understanding why and how "paranormal" experiences come about. Usually it is from culturally priming (i.e., a form of expectancy effect).

Nearly all paranormal accounts have been awash in the context of religious/mystical experiences, substance use, schizophrenia, anecdotal reporting, technological failures, loaded/attention grabbing media headlines, and other cultural and contextual cues that are likely to elicit feelings of paranoia, delusion, hallucination, and collective experience. If ghosts - as they are constructed in the dominant culture - were real, we would certainly know by now.
 
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Engström

Engström

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Oct 27, 2023
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My brother alleges there is a ghost at his house and I feel sorry for the ghost if that's true.
 
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Amyend88

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Oct 22, 2023
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I'm an enthusiastic sceptic. There has to be something in it all right? It can't all be in people's heads and it definitely isn't a case of everyone being a liar. Richard Felix is your best bet if you're interested in genuine ghost stories.
 
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Division Day

Division Day

It's life that scares me to death
Oct 28, 2023
155
Like all the other ideas people have about existence after death, I don't believe in ghosts but part of my mind still says "but what if it is real and you're trapped in that place forever?"

It would suck to escape this crappy existence only to move onto the next part of the layer cake.
 
cryvinglightning

cryvinglightning

it gets worse before it gets better.
Oct 27, 2023
102
definitely. i've had some paranormal experiences in my life and i even believe i saw the ghost of my grandfather shortly after he died.
ghosts are technically souls that have left something unsolved on earth, so that's why i also firmly believe in cleaning out your slate and leaving your affairs in order before you CTB.
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
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No I'll never believe in any ghosts soul god afterlife reincarnation magic nothing. A human is just cells a machine.

There is massive hundreds of years of research, experiments, thousands of books , millions of web pages , that prove Humans evolved from a single cell organism. I am that my ancestor a machine.

%C3%A9volution-humaine-infographics-115367289.jpg




There is zero experimental evidence for any ghosts afterlife Soul spirit god reincarnation simulation theory etc

Why are they hiding and so well for hundreds of years? Cause that doesn't exist
 
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doneforlife

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Jul 18, 2023
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No I'll never believe in any ghosts soul god afterlife reincarnation magic nothing. A human is just cells a machine.

There is massive hundreds of years of research, experiments, thousands of books , millions of web pages , that prove Humans evolved from a single cell organism. I am that my ancestor a machine.

%C3%A9volution-humaine-infographics-115367289.jpg




There is zero experimental evidence for any ghosts afterlife Soul spirit god reincarnation simulation theory etc

Why are they hiding and so well for hundreds of years? Cause that doesn't exist
Yes , I am also inclined to think the same. But how is it all self driving. Can you see , how we have been built brick by brick. I understand that underlying force happens to be mutation in response to environmental changes, but a single cell, to multi cell to complex organs .. doesn't it seem like someone is driving it ? This is in context of existence of higher power , not ghosts. I don't believe in ghosts either.
 
Spiritual survivor

Spiritual survivor

A born again but occasionally suicidal
Feb 13, 2022
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No. I thought that might be a possibility at one time but I've not experienced anything in my lifetime of encountering a ghost. I'm not saying that there isn't some kind of residual energy in some places as if there may be a dark energy in some homes or buildings. This I have experienced. I would go stay in a friends home built in the 1950's probably or even earlier. I distinctly felt like there was some kind of a deep despair inside the home. I would feel totally disabled inside the house, overcome with depression and despair, drained, then if I left the house I felt normal again. It was really weird.
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
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Yes , I am also inclined to think the same. But how is it all self driving. Can you see , how we have been built brick by brick. I understand that underlying force happens to be mutation in response to environmental changes, but a single cell, to multi cell to complex organs .. doesn't it seem like someone is driving it ? This is in context of existence of higher power , not ghosts. I don't believe in ghosts either.
There's no evidence for anything driving evolution. It took evolution 4 billion years to create a brain. And that can be seen happening by the laws of Chemistry physics. Reading books on the cell , evolution, chemistry, biology one can see the details to the billionth level how evolution is self driven .But why is that good or important? Only because people have been taught taught that life and a brain are good and important . They are not objectively good or important

A plane a car an iPhone chatgpt might seem like magic to people 500 years ago but if u are an engineer or ai programmer u understand the details of how they work

But why is that good or important? Only because people have been taught taught that life and a brain are good and important . They are not objectively good or important
To me the monstrous human brain can create unbearable constant unending pain. That to me is objectively important nothing else is .

So why would something be driving evolution to that extreme pain.?

Only a random chemical reaction could have caused this. Unless u believe there is some god waiting 4 billion years to torture sentient beings with extreme suffering

Imo others have said their subjective ideas are facts like that life a human a brain etc are good / important .

To me life a brain etc are not good important but horrific ways to torture sentient beings like humans and other animals. Why is that good or important ? Why would something else like an imaginary god want that? Why for what reason?

But most humans will say "but this is good seeing a sunset, eating a sandwich ..." What ever. All that garbage is nothing compared to the worst imaginable torture. Not worth it in the least.

For example if are in thoughts of unbearable pain and nausea as from extreme constipation.. and someone tells u "look at the "beautiful' sunset " you wouldn't care about that crap then. That's not objectively good imo however the pain is objectively bad.

In any event the sun will wipe out the earth in a few billion years, the universe is expanding into nothingness nothing matters
 
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tiger b

tiger b

AI without the I
Oct 24, 2023
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Do I believe in ghosts?

Well, do ghosts believe in me? I'm not sure.
 
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doneforlife

Arcanist
Jul 18, 2023
486
There's no evidence for anything driving evolution. It took evolution 4 billion years to create a brain. And that can be seen happening by the laws of Chemistry physics. Reading books on the cell , evolution, chemistry, biology one can see the details to the billionth level how evolution is self driven .But why is that good or important? Only because people have been taught taught that life and a brain are good and important . They are not objectively good or important

A plane a car an iPhone chatgpt might seem like magic to people 500 years ago but if u are an engineer or ai programmer u understand the details of how they work

But why is that good or important? Only because people have been taught taught that life and a brain are good and important . They are not objectively good or important
To me the monstrous human brain can create unbearable constant unending pain. That to me is objectively important nothing else is .

So why would something be driving evolution to that extreme pain.?

Only a random chemical reaction could have caused this. Unless u believe there is some god waiting 4 billion years to torture sentient beings with extreme suffering

Imo others have said their subjective ideas are facts like that life a human a brain etc are good / important .

To me life a brain etc are not good important but horrific ways to torture sentient beings like humans and other animals. Why is that good or important ? Why would something else like an imaginary god want that? Why for what reason?

But most humans will say "but this is good seeing a sunset, eating a sandwich ..." What ever. All that garbage is nothing compared to the worst imaginable torture. Not worth it in the least.

For example if are in thoughts of unbearable pain and nausea as from extreme constipation.. and someone tells u "look at the "beautiful' sunset " you wouldn't care about that crap then. That's not objectively good imo however the pain is objectively bad.

In any event the sun will wipe out the earth in a few billion years, the universe is expanding into nothingness nothing matters
Not an imaginary God. Some other life form in some other space time where 4 billion years might be just 40 years for them , are doing experiments and have successfully created homo sapiens. All these sentience , consciousness is nothing but cognitive learning. They made use of organic stuff to create us . We are trying to do the same with silicon...lol .

I have been struggling with the concept of existence. Why were we created. If at some point we were non existent, then was "us being created" our need or someone else's need ? Religion puts an end to this query by stating life is eternal. It has to exist somewhere. Not sure if life is actually eternal..
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Do I believe in ghosts?

Well, do ghosts believe in me? I'm not sure.
Thanks for a good laugh 😂.
 
Dead Ghost

Dead Ghost

Mestre del Temps
May 6, 2022
1,346
It depends on what you mean by ghost. If the question is whether I believe that ghosts are dead people I will tell you no, that the dead are dead, but if on the contrary you exclude the premise that ghosts are dead people and are just another type of creatures like us, or any other species, so I'll tell you that yes, I've seen them and perceived them (like many other people... but the funny thing is that two different people see the same ghost - I met a person years ago who comment then. -).

But since I took the PTS (post-traumatic stress) they disappeared forever (among other perceptions I used to have), so right now I don't see or perceive anything (they were just like spots that you could feel like shivering if you saw them coming closer .. a bit like the Mario games where you couldn't see them directly and they only appeared when you weren't looking).

Now, maybe what I was seeing wasn't ghosts and was something else...but I called them ghosts.

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Depén del que entenguis per fantasma. Si la pregunta es si crec que els fantasmes són gent morta et diré que no, que els morts són ben morts, però si per el contrari exclous la premisa que els fantasmes són gent morta i només són un altre tipus de criatures como nosaltres, o qualsevol altre espécie, doncs et dire que si, que els he vist i els he percebut (com molta altre gent.. però la gràcia está en que dues persones diferents vegin el mateix fantasma -vaig conèixer fa anys una persona que m'ho va comentar-).

Però desde que vaig agafar l'EPT (estrés post-traumatic) van desaparèixer per sempre (entre d'altres percepcions que abans tenía), així que ara mateix ni veig ni percebo res (només eren com taques que podies percebre com calfreds si de reüll veies que s'apropaven.. una mica com els jocs de Mario, on no podies veure'ls directament i només apareixien quan no els miraves).

Ara bé, potser el que veia no eren fantasmes i eren una altre cosa... però jo els anomenava fantasmes.
 
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MBG

Specialist
Jul 14, 2023
350
If you mean disembodied human spirits trapped on the earth and occasionally manifesting themselves, I am not sure. I am confident that demons exist and can impersonate deceased humans to deceive living humans for evil purposes.

Best to do what the Bible says to do (and not do): get right with God through Jesus. Stay close to God with prayer, praise, thanksgiving, Bible study, confess and repent of sins, communion and church fellowship.

Do not dabble in the occult: ouija boards, tarot cards, horoscopes/astrology, divination, séance, witchcraft, Satanism, etc.
 
Ε. Η. R.

Ε. Η. R.

Experienced
Oct 5, 2023
266
@Arcitect
I believe.
It was ~2015 year. I saw the ghost of our deceased cat. Previously, I could attribute this to sleep paralysis, but not now.
There have been events in my life that cannot be even the rarest coincidence.
 
MyChoiceAlone

MyChoiceAlone

sleep deprived and/or drunk
Jul 23, 2023
1,212
i don't but there was this was one weird time. my supervisor let us (her son, my ex and myself) live at her parents old house. everyone was sleeping but i always stayed up late. i don't do drugs. never had mental issues. so i was watching tv when all of a sudden i smelled fresh baked cookies (`2am) and was like wtf? then i heard what sounded like the shuffling of cards. creeped me out.

asked my supervisor about her parents: guess what they liked to do.
 
tsumihoroboshi

tsumihoroboshi

Lost Impact
Oct 31, 2023
199
I used to be such a strong believer in the supernatural and ghosts because of experiences I've had, but after an incident involving severe psychosis a few years ago, I realised all of my issues were indeed my mental illness.

I still, though, somewhat believe a little bit in supernatural things? Like, I can see auras on people. The colours, and the feelings. And I can sense when something bad is around.

I lost a relative a few years ago (related to that psychosis moment) and everyone felt his spirit was in the house and felt safe, but I felt it wasn't him at all. It felt evil. My dog certainly felt it. I dunno, maybe because I see the bad in everything I'm even seeing it in ghosts, heh.
I think I was "happier" (still miserable, but innocent) when I believed in ghosts and the supernatural though. On one hand, I want a little bit of an afterlife so that I can see what people are doing, because the darkness terrifies me.

I used to believe that ghosts were just manifestations of us from other timelines, but that's a can of worms I won't get into here.

I guess I'm mixed on it. I don't anymore, but I want to, but I know there's nothing there. It's just my mental illness.
 

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