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falloutcarter13

falloutcarter13

Bury me, bury me...
Aug 1, 2020
671
Ah, yes. Another one of these posts. If someone being neurotic about their upcoming plans to ctb with SN bugs you, go ahead and click off now. If you share my concerns or have a high tolerance for annoyance, read on! :haha:

So my plan, in a nutshell, is simplicity itself. In theory. I have 100+ grams of 99.31% pure SN, reagent grade. Lab assayed for purity by someone I know personally. So I'm not worried about the substance at all, seems to be just what I need. I'm going to try to keep this short, so here it is: my main worry is not being able to get a proper antiemetic, and the vomiting of the substance. I am committed as hell to this working, and I'm going to mix up four 25g/50mL solutions before I start. I've never read anyone needing more than two doses to pull it off, but my luck it just wouldn't be enough...and what am I saving it for anyway? So my main question is has anyone read about someone holding down enough SN to cause unconsciousness, but not dying as a result of it? This is what I'm really worried about. I will keep taking shots immediately after vomiting for as long as I'm conscious, but if I go unconscious and don't die and am discovered, my chances to ctb in a manner of my choosing go down a LOT. Any info you guys have about this would be really appreciated - sources even more appreciated. Again, I'm looking for reports of people going unconscious from SN poisoning and surviving anyway. Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts and wisdom with me :smiling:

Oh and while I'm being a jackass and making the 6,000,000th post about SN Fretting, I probably can't get the recommended antacid either. Will a calcium based antacid hurt the chances of success, increase them, or do absolutely nothing? Haven't found any info regarding this, either. Thanks again, guys and ladies.
 
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stationarymillennial

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has anyone read about someone holding down enough SN to cause unconsciousness, but not dying as a result of it?
I can't recall off the top of my head. BUT I provide you a list of non-fatal SN attempts here. Have you combed through those yet?
 
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esse_est_percipi

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Jul 14, 2020
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Ah, yes. Another one of these posts. If someone being neurotic about their upcoming plans to ctb with SN bugs you, go ahead and click off now. If you share my concerns or have a high tolerance for annoyance, read on! :haha:

So my plan, in a nutshell, is simplicity itself. In theory. I have 100+ grams of 99.31% pure SN, reagent grade. Lab assayed for purity by someone I know personally. So I'm not worried about the substance at all, seems to be just what I need. I'm going to try to keep this short, so here it is: my main worry is not being able to get a proper antiemetic, and the vomiting of the substance. I am committed as hell to this working, and I'm going to mix up four 25g/50mL solutions before I start. I've never read anyone needing more than two doses to pull it off, but my luck it just wouldn't be enough...and what am I saving it for anyway? So my main question is has anyone read about someone holding down enough SN to cause unconsciousness, but not dying as a result of it? This is what I'm really worried about. I will keep taking shots immediately after vomiting for as long as I'm conscious, but if I go unconscious and don't die and am discovered, my chances to ctb in a manner of my choosing go down a LOT. Any info you guys have about this would be really appreciated - sources even more appreciated. Again, I'm looking for reports of people going unconscious from SN poisoning and surviving anyway. Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts and wisdom with me :smiling:

Oh and while I'm being a jackass and making the 6,000,000th post about SN Fretting, I probably can't get the recommended antacid either. Will a calcium based antacid hurt the chances of success, increase them, or do absolutely nothing? Haven't found any info regarding this, either. Thanks again, guys and ladies.
I've only ever read about people surviving after going unconscious because of rapid hospital treatment (like, within an hour or two) e.g. https://europepmc.org/article/pmc/4987464

So I assume that if you take enough to go unconscious but don't get hospital treatment within, say, 3 or 4 hours, chances of surviving are very low (though I don't know exactly how low). I guess there is always a slim possibility of vomiting after going unconscious and somehow surviving without proper treatment but I've never come across any reported cases or read any anecdotal accounts.
 
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The only reports I've read from people who didn't vomit it up but survived, were those who were discovered by someone or who panicked and called emergency services themselves. They were then given methylene blue and recovered with no side effects, although some spent a couple of weeks in ICU.
Some of these then went on to try again and were apparently successful next time around. I always found that reassuring, ie what they experienced was not bad enough to put them off another attempt.
It's only recently that I've been reading all these horror stories after allegedly taking a sip. Nobody mentioned anything like that for the first couple of years of reports about SN. But then nobody was sipping it like chardonnay in those days either :sunglasses:
Sorry hadn't seen post above when I wrote this!
 
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Living_Hurts_so_Much

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Ah, yes. Another one of these posts. If someone being neurotic about their upcoming plans to ctb with SN bugs you, go ahead and click off now. If you share my concerns or have a high tolerance for annoyance, read on! :haha:

So my plan, in a nutshell, is simplicity itself. In theory. I have 100+ grams of 99.31% pure SN, reagent grade. Lab assayed for purity by someone I know personally. So I'm not worried about the substance at all, seems to be just what I need. I'm going to try to keep this short, so here it is: my main worry is not being able to get a proper antiemetic, and the vomiting of the substance. I am committed as hell to this working, and I'm going to mix up four 25g/50mL solutions before I start. I've never read anyone needing more than two doses to pull it off, but my luck it just wouldn't be enough...and what am I saving it for anyway? So my main question is has anyone read about someone holding down enough SN to cause unconsciousness, but not dying as a result of it? This is what I'm really worried about. I will keep taking shots immediately after vomiting for as long as I'm conscious, but if I go unconscious and don't die and am discovered, my chances to ctb in a manner of my choosing go down a LOT. Any info you guys have about this would be really appreciated - sources even more appreciated. Again, I'm looking for reports of people going unconscious from SN poisoning and surviving anyway. Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts and wisdom with me :smiling:

Oh and while I'm being a jackass and making the 6,000,000th post about SN Fretting, I probably can't get the recommended antacid either. Will a calcium based antacid hurt the chances of success, increase them, or do absolutely nothing? Haven't found any info regarding this, either. Thanks again, guys and ladies.
I am quite happy to listen. I must have that high tolerance. ;-)
 
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GravityUtilizer

GravityUtilizer

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May 22, 2020
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You are overthinking and that's okay. But to reassure you, no, as far as I know that could only happen if someone were to find you/you called emergency services yourself within the time frame. I've seen a crazy amount of goodbye threads with SN in the few months that I've been here. It is banned in my country for a reason (it works).

PS Your story really resonated with me. Sorry you're a victim of a crappy judicial system. And also of course of depression.
 
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falloutcarter13

falloutcarter13

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Aug 1, 2020
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I can't recall off the top of my head. BUT I provide you a list of non-fatal SN attempts here. Have you combed through those yet?
I've checked it out before, but the google doc shit does not play nice with my computer or phone. This link, however, seems to work a lot better. Scanning it now. Thank you!!
I've never come across any reported cases or read any anecdotal accounts.
Me neither. That's why I'm looking for them, I guess I'm trying to fuck myself up in the head about it before I Go for Gold :pfff:
The only reports I've read from people who didn't vomit it up but survived, were those who were discovered by someone or who panicked and called emergency services themselves. They were then given methylene blue and recovered with no side effects, although some spent a couple of weeks in ICU.
Some of these then went on to try again and were apparently successful next time around. I always found that reassuring, ie what they experienced was not bad enough to put them off another attempt.
It's only recently that I've been reading all these horror stories after allegedly taking a sip. Nobody mentioned anything like that for the first couple of years of reports about SN. But then nobody was sipping it like chardonnay in those days either :sunglasses:
Sorry hadn't seen post above when I wrote this!
Lol yeah the taste-testing/sub lethal dosing shit is causing more confusion than anything else. Thanks for your thoughts, actually does put me a bit at easy!
I am quite happy to listen. I must have that high tolerance. ;-)
Lol you're such a pimp. A high-tolerance-for-whiny-bullshit P.I.M.P. :haha:
You are overthinking and that's okay. But to reassure you, no, as far as I know that could only happen if someone were to find you/you called emergency services yourself within the time frame. I've seen a crazy amount of goodbye threads with SN in the few months that I've been here. It is banned in my country for a reason (it works).

PS Your story really resonated with me. Sorry you're a victim of a crappy judicial system. And also of course of depression.
That's reassuring. And thank you for your kind words my friend, I'm glad you got at least a little something out of my story! :hug:
 
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GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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I really recommend you read the thread that has all of the SN successes and failures, the one that has a Google document, and then was later updated by @Living sucks with links on the thread to every attempt that came after the document was posted. Not being an ass or accusatory at all when I say this, but I've observed in some of your posts that when you say the vast majority of what you've read, it doesn't always quite resonate with the vast majority of what's been reported, but it's all gathered in one place and so that's easily rectified. I'd hate to see you rely on similar advice to alleviate your concerns when it may not be reliable, rather than going straight to the source. And then you can be the new resident expert, as resident experts tend to not stick around. :pfff: I'm definitely not a resident expert about the anecdotal accounts, I admit I make some errors and I try to make room for that when I disagree with an assertion, because once I gathered enough info and made my plan, I stopped referring back to the resource and don't remember details like I did when they were fresh. I'm more of a resident anti-misinformation specialist, with certifications in bullshit detection and manipulation tactics.

I'm curious as to why you're doing SN rather than hanging or tourniquet or night night when you seem to have shallow cartoids and get that coveted peaceful experience with rapid loss of consciousness. I'd already be dead if my cartoids didn't go no contact because some other body part told them I'm a narcissist. I was never abusive to them, btw. I just didn't know they were there until I went looking for them and it was too late, the damage to my reputation was already done and they went really deep. But that's okay, I'm going to kill the body part that smeared me, if COVID doesn't do it first.
 
falloutcarter13

falloutcarter13

Bury me, bury me...
Aug 1, 2020
671
I really recommend you read the thread that has all of the SN successes and failures, the one that has a Google document, and then was later updated by @Living sucks with links on the thread to every attempt that came after the document was posted. Not being an ass or accusatory at all when I say this, but I've observed in some of your posts that when you say the vast majority of what you've read, it doesn't always quite resonate with the vast majority of what's been reported, but it's all gathered in one place and so that's easily rectified. I'd hate to see you rely on similar advice to alleviate your concerns when it may not be reliable, rather than going straight to the source. And then you can be the new resident expert, as resident experts tend to not stick around. :pfff: I'm definitely not a resident expert about the anecdotal accounts, I admit I make some errors and I try to make room for that when I disagree with an assertion, because once I gathered enough info and made my plan, I stopped referring back to the resource and don't remember details like I did when they were fresh. I'm more of a resident anti-misinformation specialist, with certifications in bullshit detection and manipulation tactics.

I'm curious as to why you're doing SN rather than hanging or tourniquet or night night when you seem to have shallow cartoids and get that coveted peaceful experience with rapid loss of consciousness. I'd already be dead if my cartoids didn't go no contact because some other body part told them I'm a narcissist. I was never abusive to them, btw. I just didn't know they were there until I went looking for them and it was too late, the damage to my reputation was already done and they went really deep. But that's okay, I'm going to kill the body part that smeared me, if COVID doesn't do it first.
I take absolutely no offense, I'm totally aware that I haven't gotten the full picture on SN yet, and that's why I'm actively seeking out stuff like the googledoc that @stationarymillennial linked (thank you again!!) It just feels like the info I've gotten is biased one way or the other, so its great to have a compilation of failures all in one place to see the common factors. And yeah, my "expertise" (on the rare chance I ever achieve anything coming close) is gonna be short-lived too :pfff:

As to why I'm not hanging...pure aesthetics, mostly. On the off chance someone I know/love is the one to find me, I just don't feel good about swinging from the rafters with shit streaming down the backs of my legs. That, and I've always thought that self-poisoning was somehow a more dignified death than most. No idea why. But I assume that feeling will carry all the way through and help me remain calm and focused when the time comes.

As always, thank you very much for your honesty and taking the time to reply :hug:
 
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Morphosis

Morphosis

Experienced
Sep 22, 2019
260
Feel I should probably add that all my research and reading of every single SN success and failure and posts/ threads/ megathread and articles and newspaper reports, was before Christmas 2019.
I lapsed a bit after that due to the slight interruption of being locked up in a psych ward.

I love your posts @falloutcarter13, you seem like a pretty awesome guy.
 
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Freeme3820

One day this Girl will be free <3
Jul 27, 2020
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From what I learned the other day is that you can get so close to passing away but then your body can fight pretty well to reverse it and it does that fast, you deffo got it spot on when you said you need to overwhelme your body with it. I think there's 3 possibilities depending on dosage, 1 you don't pass out, 2 you pass out but come round again (a few times) or 3 you completely pass out and don't come around. I was deffo the 2nd one , close but not close enough. I honestly don't know how people could have a second dose if they puke a few mins after having it, I don't think I would of had the coordination at that point x
 
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falloutcarter13

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Aug 1, 2020
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I honestly don't know how people could have a second dose if they puke a few mins after having it, I don't think I would of had the coordination at that point x
I'm a little worried about this, too...I'm hoping my determination and the fact that being fucked up on drugs or alcohol is pretty much a normal state for me in the last several years will serve me in this regard :pfff:
 
Deardaddy

Deardaddy

Student
May 20, 2019
172
From what I learned the other day is that you can get so close to passing away but then your body can fight pretty well to reverse it and it does that fast, you deffo got it spot on when you said you need to overwhelme your body with it. I think there's 3 possibilities depending on dosage, 1 you don't pass out, 2 you pass out but come round again (a few times) or 3 you completely pass out and don't come around. I was deffo the 2nd one , close but not close enough. I honestly don't know how people could have a second dose if they puke a few mins after having it, I don't think I would of had the coordination at that point x
Puke or not , having 2nd dose is up to individual. PS I'm ok with someone taking up a 2nd dose or try another day. Both ways are sanctioned
 
feast or famine

feast or famine

Tell Patient Zero he can have his rib back.
Jun 15, 2020
313
I share these fears, too. I'm still waiting for meto, but my SN arrived today. A part of me is is thinking, "screw it, just take the SN now", but I know realistically the meto lowers the chance of vomiting. Along with that, I also hope I don't only go unconscious without actually dying.

A lot of the accounts I've read of failed SN attempts are usually due to the person being discovered or calling for help themselves. There have been successful attempts even without the antiemetic.

There's definitely a lot to consider. I hope everything works out for us both.
 
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Freeme3820

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I'm a little worried about this, too...I'm hoping my determination and the fact that being fucked up on drugs or alcohol is pretty much a normal state for me in the last several years will serve me in this regard :pfff:

Tbf it was kind of like when you are drunk af, we're your stumbling and can't walk straight and end up on the floor in a drunk coma, the diff is the tingling and passing out although I have passed out drunk a few times so maybe not that different :ahhha:, in fact thinking of it I've actually been to the level of drunk were it was pretty similar even down to the breathing. Wow mind blown now haha x
Puke or not , having 2nd dose is up to individual. PS I'm ok with someone taking up a 2nd dose or try another day. Both ways are sanctioned

I'm only mentioning the second dose thing because I had sn the other day and I found that it diddent take too long to kick in and at that point my coordination was really messed up, I just couldent imagine having the ability to pick up a glass and drink it when at that point I was on the floor and couldent even pick myself up, it honestly hits you like a brick out if nowhere :I x
 
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CarbonMonoxide

Marejeo ni ngamani
Oct 13, 2019
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As to why I'm not hanging...pure aesthetics, mostly. On the off chance someone I know/love is the one to find me, I just don't feel good about swinging from the rafters with shit streaming down the backs of my legs. That, and I've always thought that self-poisoning was somehow a more dignified death than most. No idea why.
This is what I love about ss, you get different opinions on the same topic. I tend to be cynical but your post doesn't strike me as that of an 'asshole'. The asshole in question would post about sipping a deadly poison (that denies your body oxygen) as if it's green tea. They would then go on and on about how painful it is for purposes of trolling serious users on here. Your post reflects a serious and warranted anxiety that we all feel when choosing a method. And no, by virtue of how SN works it's nearly impossible to fail if the proper amount enters the blood stream.

I tend to dislike ingestible poisons since I don't want to be choking on vomit in my last minutes. It's not as pretty as in Romeo and Juliet irl. My original method as my username suggests was CO. I gave up on CO and then SN because the uncertainty, preparation process and eventual waiting for death only serve to drastically increase SI. That's why I settled on full suspension or H.

I can understand your issue with hanging, I intend to fast for a few days before my exit. However, most people lose control of their bowels during death regardless of how they die. From reading up on SN, I came to the conclusion that the only way for it to fail is if you either vomit too much or are found in time. It seems as though once you lose consciousness you're done for. For this reason you need to have a back up dose(s) and to ctb far away from prying eyes and self righteous prolifers.
 
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Living_Hurts_so_Much

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I've checked it out before, but the google doc shit does not play nice with my computer or phone. This link, however, seems to work a lot better. Scanning it now. Thank you!!

Me neither. That's why I'm looking for them, I guess I'm trying to fuck myself up in the head about it before I Go for Gold :pfff:

Lol yeah the taste-testing/sub lethal dosing shit is causing more confusion than anything else. Thanks for your thoughts, actually does put me a bit at easy!

Lol you're such a pimp. A high-tolerance-for-whiny-bullshit P.I.M.P. :haha:

That's reassuring. And thank you for your kind words my friend, I'm glad you got at least a little something out of my story! :hug:
Lol. P I M P.
 
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falloutcarter13

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Aug 1, 2020
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This is what I love about ss, you get different opinions on the same topic. I tend to be cynical but your post doesn't strike me as that of an 'asshole'. The asshole in question would post about sipping a deadly poison (that denies your body oxygen) as if it's green tea. They would then go on and on about how painful it is for purposes of trolling serious users on here. Your post reflects a serious and warranted anxiety that we all feel when choosing a method. And no, by virtue of how SN works it's nearly impossible to fail if the proper amount enters the blood stream.

I tend to dislike ingestible poisons since I don't want to be choking on vomit in my last minutes. It's not as pretty as in Romeo and Juliet irl. My original method as my username suggests was CO. I gave up on CO and then SN because the uncertainty, preparation process and eventual waiting for death only serve to drastically increase SI. That's why I settled on full suspension or H.

I can understand your issue with hanging, I intend to fast for a few days before my exit. However, most people lose control of their bowels during death regardless of how they die. From reading up on SN, I came to the conclusion that the only way for it to fail is if you either vomit too much or are found in time. It seems as though once you lose consciousness you're done for. For this reason you need to have a back up dose(s) and to ctb far away from prying eyes and self righteous prolifers.
Even though I've been warned against it by people here, I haven't been given a valid reason why other than "you should follow Stan's Guide to the letter"...so I'm going to fast for more like 24-48 hours rather than the recommended 8 in Stan's Guide. I just don't see why this would be a problem for me, as I know my own body and vomiting from a substance isn't any more or less likely based on how recently I've eaten. All I'll have in my stomach at the time of ctb is the SN solution, and I just don't see 50mL of saltwater puke + some gastric juices as being exceptionally horrible to leave behind, especially since my suicide nest includes a small trash bin on disposable towels that I'll hopefully be cognizant enough to use if I need them.

Your reply made me feel better on every front, because it was honest and intelligent without being patronizing or placating. I really appreciate the detailed and measured reply, you really did alleviate a shit ton of the anxiety I was feeling. As another member said, I am overthinking this, I know I am. But this is exactly the sort of info and knowledge that'll make me stop it =D
 
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Apr 28, 2019
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Well, I tried to make a statistics of the cases of failure and success but it is not real without the proper documentation and that is something too difficult to obtain, I am also afraid of failing because my whole life is planned according to the success I have in leaving, but even so I know that I have three things against me, first the SI, which can emerge at any moment, second the time and finally the terrible strength that my body possesses for my curse, damn I seem immortal, I still have to decrease all the possibilities and play it, well my time has already arrived and I can not doubt
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This is what I love about ss, you get different opinions on the same topic. I tend to be cynical but your post doesn't strike me as that of an 'asshole'. The asshole in question would post about sipping a deadly poison (that denies your body oxygen) as if it's green tea. They would then go on and on about how painful it is for purposes of trolling serious users on here. Your post reflects a serious and warranted anxiety that we all feel when choosing a method. And no, by virtue of how SN works it's nearly impossible to fail if the proper amount enters the blood stream.

I tend to dislike ingestible poisons since I don't want to be choking on vomit in my last minutes. It's not as pretty as in Romeo and Juliet irl. My original method as my username suggests was CO. I gave up on CO and then SN because the uncertainty, preparation process and eventual waiting for death only serve to drastically increase SI. That's why I settled on full suspension or H.

I can understand your issue with hanging, I intend to fast for a few days before my exit. However, most people lose control of their bowels during death regardless of how they die. From reading up on SN, I came to the conclusion that the only way for it to fail is if you either vomit too much or are found in time. It seems as though once you lose consciousness you're done for. For this reason you need to have a back up dose(s) and to ctb far away from prying eyes and self righteous prolifers.

I don't understand the trolling stuff, why anyone would go out of there way and waste there time trolling is beyond me. I mean I do get why people taste it, I did it myself before I tried properly and that was because I hate being sick so kind of wanted to see how my stomach felt, reassurance I suppose. I was pretty lucky from what I've seen because my actual attempt wasent painful, uncomfortable maybe but I wouldent class that as pain x
 
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I don't understand the trolling stuff, why anyone would go out of there way and waste there time trolling is beyond me. I mean I do get why people taste it, I did it myself before I tried properly and that was because I hate being sick so kind of wanted to see how my stomach felt, reassurance I suppose. I was pretty lucky from what I've seen because my actual attempt wasent painful, uncomfortable maybe but I wouldent class that as pain x
I don't see a whole lot of reports...self reports from failures or witness reports of successes, I mean...involving pain. Headache from the sudden drop in BP is about it, and that's not mentioned more than it is. I read one report of stomach pain, but I'm real skeptical about the source. It seemed like a fictional story spun from reading a few SN reports and watching too many movies. I know you likely only absorbed a few grams at most from your attempt, but I still take it as a good sign that you felt no pain.
 
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I don't see a whole lot of reports...self reports from failures or witness reports of successes, I mean...involving pain. Headache from the sudden drop in BP is about it, and that's not mentioned more than it is. I read one report of stomach pain, but I'm real skeptical about the source. It seemed like a fictional story spun from reading a few SN reports and watching too many movies. I know you likely only absorbed a few grams at most from your attempt, but I still take it as a good sign that you felt no pain.

Yea I saw loads about the headache and that's were I was like that sounds a bit shit but I wonder with the one we're you saw stomach pain if it's pain tolorance or how different people interpret pain, mines pretty high tbf but the stomach pain thing could of been that it feels a bit warm inside, to me that wasent even worth mentioning because I diddent really class it as pain or highly noticeable, the same with the high heart rate I diddent feel any of that either, but I'm glad that I read up on it all and was fully aware of any side effects. X
 
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Well if someone with stomach ulcers drank SN, it would literally be putting salt in an open wound. Many people have undiagnosed ulcers, so I kind of chalked it up as "probably that"
 
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Well if someone with stomach ulcers drank SN, it would literally be putting salt in an open wound. Many people have undiagnosed ulcers, so I kind of chalked it up as "probably that"

Ahhh that's really observant, I wouldent of even thought of that but it would make sence, that really would be painful if that's the case. X
 
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Anybody have advice on getting an antiemetic prescription through an online DR visit (USA)? I'm worried about being too specific and seeming suspicious. I thought about just making up a story about a family friend who's a nurse that told me my migraines and nausea could be related, and that when she gave me something called meto it helped more than any OTC medicine.
Not trying to derail your thread or anything Carter, I just figured since we're on the topic of not having antiemetics asking here would be better than making a new thread.
S'all good. And while we're at it, nobody's mentioned anything about calcium based antacids. Useless, marginally useful, counterproductive? ....anybody...anybody...Bueller...?
 
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Arcanist
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Even though I've been warned against it by people here, I haven't been given a valid reason why other than "you should follow Stan's Guide to the letter"...so I'm going to fast for more like 24-48 hours rather than the recommended 8 in Stan's Guide. I just don't see why this would be a problem for me, as I know my own body and vomiting from a substance isn't any more or less likely based on how recently I've eaten.

i've vomited from not eating for about 24 hours. i didn't realize how often i snacked until i went on a med that took away my appetite.
 
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Stitch777

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Aug 2, 2020
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Tbf it was kind of like when you are drunk af, we're your stumbling and can't walk straight and end up on the floor in a drunk coma, the diff is the tingling and passing out although I have passed out drunk a few times so maybe not that different :ahhha:, in fact thinking of it I've actually been to the level of drunk were it was pretty similar even down to the breathing. Wow mind blown now haha x


I'm only mentioning the second dose thing because I had sn the other day and I found that it diddent take too long to kick in and at that point my coordination was really messed up, I just couldent imagine having the ability to pick up a glass and drink it when at that point I was on the floor and couldent even pick myself up, it honestly hits you like a brick out if nowhere :I x
I've been worried about knocking over my back up doses and your post just gave me an idea haha.
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Having the extra doses next to me on the bed in these little squirt-top juice bottles sounds like it would work. Even if they got knocked over with the squirt top popped up barely any would spill out. Plus the nostalgia factor would probably bring some comfort, I used to love getting bug juice from the gas station as a kid.
 
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I read in a medical journal about six people who took it and were brought to the emergency room. How each person's body handles it varies greatly. But they all had in common that they were brought to the hospital while still alive. Some died despite treatment and some lived.
Yeah I'm not worried about being found too soon (if I hold down a lethal dose) or panicking and calling for help or something. I'm basically stressing that I'll go unconscious before I get/hold down a lethal dose, and be discovered that way, 8 hours later all fucked up and unconscious but able to be revived. That would fuck me right into the ground. But its a risk I'm going to have to take, either way. Don't have another method I want to use or trust, so it is what it is. Thanks for the replies =)
 
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Can a body vomit when unconscious? I assume it can, the same way the body can twitch and such even after brain death. I saw this in my Mom. She was in the hospital and passed with a gasp, then as the nurse was confirming her vitals, he arm popped up. Just a mechanical muscle reaction.
 
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Can a body vomit when unconscious? I assume it can, the same way the body can twitch and such even after brain death. I saw this in my Mom. She was in the hospital and passed with a gasp, then as the nurse was confirming her vitals, he arm popped up. Just a mechanical muscle reaction.
Yeah, you can puke while unconscious. I watched my mom die in the hospital too, I'm so sorry...its a terrible experience :notsure:
 
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