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CarbonMonoxide

CarbonMonoxide

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Oct 13, 2019
371
Yeah. I think most people overthink it. It's frighteningly easy to ctb from co. Just ensure you've located a tiny space and have a little duct tape to close leaks.

Frankly I think this and H are the easiest painless ctb methods.
Some vodka should mellow you out and make the experience less scary, at least for me.
@CarbonMonoxide I have no idea how I failed last week. It seems an impossibility. 2kg of coals, small modern compact car, 8 hours knocked out with valium/vodka and CO fumes. And some people die from tiny amounts off of a cooled disposable bbq in a tent. I'm more than puzzled!
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Sorry about my terrible quoting, I'm using my phone and have no idea what just happened.

You sound like you got off easy with few side effects. There must have been a leak somewhere in the car. Or maybe you're just extremely lucky. 2kgs is literally overkill.

And to imagine people ctb from around 500g of charcoal in a living room or bedroom. Wow.
 
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CaptainT

CaptainT

Experienced
Nov 1, 2019
241
@CarbonMonoxide I have no idea how I failed last week. It seems an impossibility. 2kg of coals, small modern compact car, 8 hours knocked out with valium/vodka and CO fumes. And some people die from tiny amounts off of a cooled disposable bbq in a tent. I'm more than puzzled!
Sorry about my terrible quoting, I'm using my phone and have no idea what just happened.

You sound like you got off easy with few side effects. There must have been a leak somewhere in the car. Or maybe you're just extremely lucky. 2kgs is literally overkill.

And to imagine people ctb from around 500g of charcoal in a living room or bedroom. Wow.
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@CarbonMonoxide I'm extremely worried now about "Delayed Neurological Sequelae" which is what happens 3-4 weeks after acute CO poisoning. You can seem fine after the initial event (I just have headaches and a hangover feeling) and then things can get serious weeks later.

Makes me realise that if I'm to try CO again, needs to be in the next couple of weeks while I still have the mental/physical capacity to do it
 
CarbonMonoxide

CarbonMonoxide

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Oct 13, 2019
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@CaptainT I'm just going to stop quoting. My screen is letting me down. To answer your question, I think I rea your post earlier. You said you're thinking about N? Sn?

Ive heard about the delay thing with co. What are your ideas?
 
CaptainT

CaptainT

Experienced
Nov 1, 2019
241
@CaptainT I'm just going to stop quoting. My screen is letting me down. To answer your question, I think I rea your post earlier. You said you're thinking about N? Sn?

Ive heard about the delay thing with co. What are your ideas?
I'm going to try CO one more time with different briquettes, more of them, in a small room. If that fails then I'll have the SN with me for next day attempt.

There's nothing that can be done about delayed-onset CO effects. They can be brutal and lifelong in terms of brain damage so don't want to be around for that!
 
CarbonMonoxide

CarbonMonoxide

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Oct 13, 2019
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I'm going to try CO one more time with different briquettes, more of them, in a small room. If that fails then I'll have the SN with me for next day attempt.

There's nothing that can be done about delayed-onset CO effects. They can be brutal and lifelong in terms of brain damage so don't want to be around for that!
Brain damage is rough. It's why I'm only considering the sure fire peaceful methods like Co and H. There's no way for me to get N, so one of those will have to do.
 
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Amz_Falls

Student
Aug 23, 2019
175
My friends dad CTB with a BBQ in the bathroom. To this day in the summer he can't be around anyone having a BBQ. Poor bloke.
 
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CaptainT

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241
Brain damage is rough. It's why I'm only considering the sure fire peaceful methods like Co and H. There's no way for me to get N, so one of those will have to do.
Let me know your planned CO method. I'd be interested to compare notes.
 
CarbonMonoxide

CarbonMonoxide

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Oct 13, 2019
371
My friends dad CTB with a BBQ in the bathroom. To this day in the summer he can't be around anyone having a BBQ. Poor bloke.
Sad stuff. I think it's unfair to ctb where family can easily find your body. That's why I prefer a secluded place like those out of the way camping grounds.
Let me know your planned CO method. I'd be interested to compare notes.
I can't get a car, so I've rented a tiny single room in a poor part of my city. For two months.

It's located in a building where noone knows me or cares what I'm doing there. Noone will find me until it's too late. I plan on using a charcoal stove with 2kgs like you. I'll use duct tape and some strong polythene to close any leaks.

In the same area they also sell H nearby. I'll buy several grams to act as backup in case Co fails. Or may use both. I'm a believer in overkill.
 
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Amz_Falls

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Aug 23, 2019
175
Sad stuff. I think it's unfair to ctb where family can easily find your body. That's why I prefer a secluded place like those out of the way camping grounds.

I can't get a car, so I've rented a tiny single room in a poor part of my city. For two months.

It's located in a building where noone knows me or cares what I'm doing there. Noone will find me until it's too late. I plan on using a charcoal stove with 2kgs like you. I'll use duct tape and some strong polythene to close any leaks.

In the same area they also sell H nearby. I'll buy several grams to act as backup in case Co fails. Or may use both. I'm a believer in overkill.
I agree. The police were coming to arrest him and he was going to get life in prison that day so don't think he had a lot of choice. Shows that you don't need to do loads of planning though.
 
d.i.d

d.i.d

Member
Nov 7, 2019
9
I'm going to try CO one more time with different briquettes, more of them, in a small room. If that fails then I'll have the SN with me for next day attempt.
Are you going to measure a concentration this time?
 
CaptainT

CaptainT

Experienced
Nov 1, 2019
241
Are you going to measure a concentration this time?
Yes, got a CO meter that reads up to 1000, so will see how fast 4kg of charcoal (mix of briquettes and disposable bbqs) gets there and extrapolate
Sad stuff. I think it's unfair to ctb where family can easily find your body. That's why I prefer a secluded place like those out of the way camping grounds.

I can't get a car, so I've rented a tiny single room in a poor part of my city. For two months.

It's located in a building where noone knows me or cares what I'm doing there. Noone will find me until it's too late. I plan on using a charcoal stove with 2kgs like you. I'll use duct tape and some strong polythene to close any leaks.

In the same area they also sell H nearby. I'll buy several grams to act as backup in case Co fails. Or may use both. I'm a believer in overkill.
Sounds like a solid plan. I took valium and alcohol to get me knocked out as soon as I stepped inside. Next time I'm upping the quantity to 4kg: 2kg of briquettes and 2kg of disposable bbqs in a small room like you. Overkill quite literally.

May the force be with you, whether you go ahead with this or not. Stay strong brother
 
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Yes, got a CO meter that reads up to 1000, so will see how fast 4kg of charcoal (mix of briquettes and disposable bbqs) gets there and extrapolate

Sounds like a solid plan. I took valium and alcohol to get me knocked out as soon as I stepped inside. Next time I'm upping the quantity to 4kg: 2kg of briquettes and 2kg of disposable bbqs in a small room like you. Overkill quite literally.

May the force be with you, whether you go ahead with this or not. Stay strong brother
Thanks for the support, may we both achieve what we truly want. At the moment I'm tying up loose ends to make things easier for those I'll leave behind.

It'll be a big shock because I've never shown them any signs of wanting to ctb. I think the hardest part of ctb isn't the method or SI. It's the ones you leave behind to grieve.
 
CaptainT

CaptainT

Experienced
Nov 1, 2019
241
Thanks for the support, may we both achieve what we truly want. At the moment I'm tying up loose ends to make things easier for those I'll leave behind.

It'll be a big shock because I've never shown them any signs of wanting to ctb. I think the hardest part of ctb isn't the method or SI. It's the ones you leave behind to grieve.
Very much so. Actually lighting the coals and stepping in was easy (no survival instinct kicked in after the alcohol/valium). Much harder was writing the note to my mum. I made sure to tell her she was not to blame, that it wasn't anything she'd done, not to have "What Ifs...", I would have done it anyway etc. I think that's really important to try and answer all the questions they'll have to minimise their suffering, even though it will be hard for them of course
 
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Very much so. Actually lighting the coals and stepping in was easy (no survival instinct kicked in after the alcohol/valium). Much harder was writing the note to my mum. I made sure to tell her she was not to blame, that it wasn't anything she'd done, not to have "What Ifs...", I would have done it anyway etc. I think that's really important to try and answer all the questions they'll have to minimise their suffering, even though it will be hard for them of course
Wow. Family members are the hardest to handle. I tend to cringe when I hear about people choosing to ctb in their homes where parents or siblings can find them. That's just irresponsible.

I've decided to send a delayed email to a friend telling him to call the cops and give them my location. Initially I wanted to do it in a secluded forest where I would never be found, just decompose or get eaten by scavengers.

Right now I'm thinking they have a right to bury me. For the sake of closure especially after the shock of not even being aware of my mental instability. I'm just not sure. What do you think?
 
CaptainT

CaptainT

Experienced
Nov 1, 2019
241
Wow. Family members are the hardest to handle. I tend to cringe when I hear about people choosing to ctb in their homes where parents or siblings can find them. That's just irresponsible.

I've decided to send a delayed email to a friend telling him to call the cops and give them my location. Initially I wanted to do it in a secluded forest where I would never be found, just decompose or get eaten by scavengers.

Right now I'm thinking they have a right to bury me. For the sake of closure especially after the shock of not even being aware of my mental instability. I'm just not sure. What do you think?
In your country is burial normal? Here in UK it's cremation. But yes, family (especially your mother) has that right to say goodbye for closure. The worst thing for a family is to never find the body. It's massively traumatising ("is he still out there??").

Good thing about CO is that our bodies will look pretty much normal (just a bit cherry red). SN makes you look grey/blue which is far worse.
 
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Nov 29, 2018
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Thanks for this post. This sounds like a much better method then SN. I have my SN ordered, but I think this method is much better. Taking a benzodiazepine variant, and drinking some vodka, while listening to my favorite music on the car stereo, sounds much better then drinking salt and the risk of vomiting.

@CaptainT perhaps you failed the last time because it went out too early. The amount might have been sufficient. But like you said, some succeeded with just one disposable BBQ. Perhaps your car was too well sealed, and some oxygen is needed for the stove to continue burning. maybe the bottom of the BBQ needs to get more air.

Seems like a good method. It's nr 1 on my list now.
 
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CaptainT

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Thanks for this post. This sounds like a much better method then SN. I have my SN ordered, but I think this method is much better. Taking a benzodiazepine variant, and drinking some vodka, while listening to my favorite music on the car stereo, sounds much better then drinking salt and the risk of vomiting.

@CaptainT perhaps you failed the last time because it went out too early. The amount might have been sufficient. But like you said, some succeeded with just one disposable BBQ. Perhaps your car was too well sealed, and some oxygen is needed for the stove to continue burning. maybe the bottom of the BBQ needs to get more air.

Seems like a good method. It's nr 1 on my list now.

It's a mighty mystery how the hell I survived, but I'm with you all the way, CO method is calm, chilled, natural and still much easier for me to mentally accept than drinking salt
 
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AnxiouslyDepressed

Stuck- the guilt of leaving or the pain of staying
Nov 8, 2019
149
Hm, was contemplating SN in the car and now seeing you post about CO the past few days I may start looking into that also.

I'm baffled as to how you don't know how you survived your first attempt. I'm so sorry you had to go through that.

I like the idea of just drifting off naturally.

I wish there was guide and method such as there is for SN. Guess that's down to me being lazy, it's something I will look in to but I have a feeling I'm still going to go with SN.

Will be looking out for your posts regarding CO in the meantime.
 
CaptainT

CaptainT

Experienced
Nov 1, 2019
241
Hm, was contemplating SN in the car and now seeing you post about CO the past few days I may start looking into that also.

I'm baffled as to how you don't know how you survived your first attempt. I'm so sorry you had to go through that.

I like the idea of just drifting off naturally.

I wish there was guide and method such as there is for SN. Guess that's down to me being lazy, it's something I will look in to but I have a feeling I'm still going to go with SN.

Will be looking out for your posts regarding CO in the meantime.
This guide is good: https://archive.is/nU3AZ

But keep it simple - all those reports I linked above are just a small car and a disposable bbq.

God is laughing at me for overcomplicating it with x4 the amount of charcoal, the chimney starter etc !
 
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Hank

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This guide is good: https://archive.is/nU3AZ

But keep it simple - all those reports I linked above are just a small car and a disposable bbq.

God is laughing at me for overcomplicating it with x4 the amount of charcoal, the chimney starter etc !

I think that might have been the cause of the failure. Too much coal, and not enough oxygen to keep it going.

According to what I've read, your body will prefer CO over oxygen. I..o.w. I guess it's more important to keep that BBQ going and keep that CO comming, then keeping the oxygen out. so, 2 disposable BBQ's might be just the right amount.
 
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I failed with 2kg in a medium sized bathroom. And I was in there for almost 10 hours. I'm guessing it was too drafty. I want to try again, this time in my car, but I'm terrified I will mess it up again somehow.

I read CaptainT's experience and mine was quite similar. I have the same worries!
 
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castler

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"They were dearly loved and will be sadly missed. The whole family is absolutely devastated by this terrible loss."

I sure hope If I'm found they don't try to plant that BS message in an article claiming "I was loved" and shit. That would make me sick.