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one of my friends might ctb because his girlfriend left him i said "Look i wont stop you on doing so so go on ctb and if you need some help I'm here or advise on doing so" and like if he does ctb good for him lucky him actually but i just what to know did i do right on an outside perspective because i don't want to man to suffer while he ctb

p.s. i sent him a few methods and how to do so
 
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NoLoveNoHope

NoLoveNoHope

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Mar 25, 2023
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Nothing wrong with it in my opinion, if you just stick to providing factual information then I see it as a great help. It may be a shock to someone who has outdated views of suicide though; but yes I do think you did the right thing.
 
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devian

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Oct 25, 2021
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well, i hope you understand that youre asking for outside opinion and you will get a variety of different answers.

now, on one hand, i do not know your full situation. i do not know how close you two are, and what you two have bonded over, and i do not have a full story. in my random internet opinion, i think that is maybe not unethical exactly, but something i would never be able to do from the context you provided. it would cause immense guilt within me. i think it may have been something to think over more, although of course, once again, i do not know the full context, so do not take me as someone judging you.

however, on the other hand, i am slightly hypocritical, and am aware that bonding over this intimacy with death and longing to either help others or to just feel less alone is something easy [although something that can also be toxic]. i planned something long ago with someone who, previous to me bringing it up, was not aware of the specifics of these things. sorry, i am trying to be vague for personal reasons. i recently decided this was a massive mistake on my part and i may have caused someone's life trajectory, no matter how close we were, to shift immensely into a darker place. i have since cut off contact with this individual for their own good, and despite the pain i know i have brought, i feel good about it because i was only leading them further down.

what i am trying to say is that i do not know your story, but if you give this context and ask about it, i will state that it is for sure something to ponder for yourself, with no easy answer. i do not think encouraging death to someone not seeking it out is ethical, however it does not seem that is what you are doing. these are all just thoughts i have had that may help you think more. i hope things go okay for you and your friend.
 
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one of my friends might ctb because his girlfriend left him i said "Look i wont stop you on doing so so go on ctb and if you need some help I'm here or advise on doing so" and like if he does ctb good for him lucky him actually but i just what to know did i do right on an outside perspective because i don't want to man to suffer while he ctb

p.s. i sent him a few methods and how to do so
Honestly kinda sounds like they are reaching out to you for their last hope to save them but I am not fully sure just a speculation.
 
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thebookofdisquiet

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I think you should not only offer help for him to go but also for him to stay, helping him think if it's what he really wants or just an impulsive decision based on feeling hurt. Instead of "I won't stop you and here's a guide on how to die" you could say "I won't stop you but I can try and support you in this difficult moment with ______ (therapy/distractions/vent and comfort etc)"
Maybe you can help him to move on and get better if he's open to that but if he's 100% sure then I think it's okay for you to inform him about the best methods.
 
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FuneralCry

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Sep 24, 2020
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Yes, I believe so. I think that respecting the right to die and informing about methods is just being compassionate towards the suffering that exists here. Anything pro-life is just insensitive to me, it's insensitive refusing to accept the option of permanently escaping from all the suffering, what you said was just being kind. Suicide means freedom and suffering prevention and none of us are obligated to continue existing here so of course suicidal people deserve to have their wish respected.
 
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With people who suffer from just a one off situation that makes them want to CTB I always attempt to make sure CTB is really what they want first. Most time one situation can be reversed and they may continue on in life perfectly fine. If they're adamant on death then yes 100% support them on their journey. There's only so many ways you can help.
 
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alonely

alonely

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Jul 1, 2023
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I think it's fine. I think in an ideal world I would probably ask what the friend wanted - I don't know what happened in your case but sending methods without knowing that's what your friend wanted could maybe be seen as you encouraging him to choose and use a method, when maybe he just wanted to vent and be heard. I probably would have been more hesitant to send methods since doing it right after a breakup when emotions are high can mean the suicidal thoughts are more impulsive rather than well-thought-out.

Always situational though and of course sometimes you just have to do your best in the moment with what you know.
 
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Praestat_Mori

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May 21, 2023
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Giving useful information, should someone ask for it, is the right thing to do. In the end you may have prevented them from a terrible accident. In the end it's their own decision and everyone has the right to get the best information they can get.
 
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