Ctb prevention :/

[waRmblanket]

3/26/23

I'm tired of being told not to ctb, it only makes me want to more. I know all my problems will be solved if I do, I don't need people holding me back from doing gods favor.

 

[Pluto]

Most people would have a rude awakening if they could actually empathise with the situations people who CTB are facing. The idea of opposing suicide in all circumstances, with no nuance or depth to the discussion, would be seen for the absurdity that it is.

 

[SilentSadness]

Ctb prevention is a form of social manipulation, there really is little wrong with it and it's so awful that the people who do it are the people who dragged us into this existence. They have no interest in seeing anything from anyone else's point of view so it is sadly best to avoid them at all costs. I hope you find peace, you definitely don't deserve to have to put this into your own hands.

 

[FuneralCry]

Those people are just so incredibly delusional to be against suicide when in reality we are all just destined to suffer, deteriorate and die anyway. To want to force someone to stay here against their wishes is evil and disgusting, no matter what other people think I will always view it as being preferable to be permanently free from the harm that existing unnecessarily causes.

 

[Shadowlord900]

People who try to prevent CTB the traditional way don't really give a damn about your feelings at all, so it's no wonder they're not good at CTB prevention and why modern CTB prevention in of itself is a joke.

My motto is the best way to deal with a problem isn't by masking the symptoms, but dealing with the problem at its core. Maybe if the anti-suicidal groups like the Samaritans and such actually made themselves more useful and tried to help with people's core problems, then they'd actually start seeing suicide numbers declining.

Of course I am aware not all problems can be solved, not everyone wants to live with said problems and would rather want to CTB instead and I'm in all support for that. Unfortunately too many people will still be too apathetic to see that, and I imagine that'll last until hopefully that one golden day (if it ever happens) euthanasia finally becomes legal worldwide, and maybe 100-200 years after that almost all (if not all) the stigma placed on suicide will have gone away.

 

[waRmblanket]

Ctb prevention is a form of social manipulation, there really is little wrong with it and it's so awful that the people who do it are the people who dragged us into this existence. They have no interest in seeing anything from anyone else's point of view so it is sadly best to avoid them at all costs. I hope you find peace, you definitely don't deserve to have to put this into your own hands.

I've also noticed those who try preventing are those who don't bother to help. Telling me not to, won't do a thing…that's like giving a toddler a warning and turning your back just for them to do it. I just wish it was easier to talk about my feelings, I quit therapy recently bc I was too anxious and I found she didn't do a damn thing but make me worse

People who try to prevent CTB the traditional way don't really give a damn about your feelings at all, so it's no wonder they're not good at CTB prevention and why modern CTB prevention in of itself is a joke.

My motto is the best way to deal with a problem isn't by masking the symptoms, but dealing with the problem at its core. Maybe if the anti-suicidal groups like the Samaritans and such actually made themselves more useful and tried to help with people's core problems, then they'd actually start seeing suicide numbers declining.

Of course I am aware not all problems can be solved, not everyone wants to live with said problems and would rather want to CTB instead and I'm in all support for that. Unfortunately too many people will still be too apathetic to see that, and I imagine that'll last until hopefully that one golden day (if it ever happens) euthanasia finally becomes legal worldwide, and maybe 100-200 years after that almost all (if not all) the stigma placed on suicide will have gone away.

Very good motto, I'll try to live by it!

But yeah, anytime I talk to a friend/coworker about not feeling well a few of them will just tell me, "don't think like that. Think about the positives." I don't think they realize if there were positives I wouldn't be in this situation. I'm tired of waking up everyday feeling shitty, especially knowing it's a mental thing that won't go away right away. It's taking too many years for feel happy, I try not to enjoy things too much because I know they won't last.

 

[PoisonousPotato]

prevention is designed to help the family and loved ones, not the s person.

 

[nonialabaster]

Most people would have a rude awakening if they could actually empathise with the situations people who CTB are facing. The idea of opposing suicide in all circumstances, with no nuance or depth to the discussion, would be seen for the absurdity that it is.

Exactly. I had a pro-lifer respond to a comment I made here. He was all "Life is beautiful, your life means something, blah, blah, blah." I found it highly insulting and disingenuous. I laid out my situation quite briefly to them, mincing no words. I've heard that sanctimonious crap my whole adult life and I am not having it.

They either got banned immediately or canceled their account.

Most of us here aren't here because we had one setback. It's usually a lifetime of depression, maybe unforgettable past trauma, you name it. The members who are wanting to make the ultimate decision based on a brief love-affair gone bad, for example, are gently talked to by kind people. There is a Recovery section on this forum, which is a wonderful feature. I've not visited it because I am firm in my choice. And that's what it is: My choice.

 

[kindalone]

I feel like this is relevant. Even though it's supposed to be funny, it's eye opening when you actually think about it. Mr. Incredible did not save his life. He just stopped his suicide attempt. The man has to save his life all on his own after all this. No superhero to save you there. The fact that most people just find it ridiculous that somebody would sue "the hero" for preserving this "precious life", is a sign that people don't really care about the guy. They might even ridicule the guy for living in such a way if he hadn't attempted suicide. People care more about the concept of life itself than the individul having to endure it.

 

[waRmblanket]

Exactly. I had a pro-lifer respond to a comment I made here. He was all "Life is beautiful, your life means something, blah, blah, blah." I found it highly insulting and disingenuous. I laid out my situation quite briefly to them, mincing no words. I've heard that sanctimonious crap my whole adult life and I am not having it.

They either got banned immediately or canceled their account.

Most of us here aren't here because we had one setback. It's usually a lifetime of depression, maybe unforgettable past trauma, you name it. The members who are wanting to make the ultimate decision based on a brief love-affair gone bad, for example, are gently talked to by kind people. There is a Recovery section on this forum, which is a wonderful feature. I've not visited it because I am firm in my choice. And that's what it is: My choice.

I like that, when it comes to irl convos I get way too anxious to put my foot down and I also don't want people I don't care for to worry about me. It's awkward seeing them later after saying something about suicide.

I want the confidence to talk about it with someone and kinda put my foot down and be straight forward. I can't really talk about suicide with anyone, my mom tells me to stop, which I understand she doesn't want to hear her daughter wants to commit and be gone forever

I feel like this is relevant. Even though it's supposed to be funny, it's eye opening when you actually think about it. Mr. Incredible did not save his life. He just stopped his suicide attempt. The man has to save his life all on his own after all this. No superhero to save you there. The fact that most people just find it ridiculous that somebody would sue "the hero" for preserving this "precious life", is a sign that people don't really care about the guy. They might even ridicule the guy for living in such a way if he hadn't attempted suicide. People care more about the concept of life itself than the individual having to endure it.

Very well said. Thank you.

 

[GasMonkey]

What's your method?

 

[waRmblanket]

What's your method?

Hanging I think. Or if I could get my hands on a gun that could be another (which would be very easy, unfortunately). I don't really have a set method currently, but I do have my eye on hanging. Thank you for asking, been wanting to get that weight off my shoulders:)

 

[Shadowlord900]

Hanging I think. Or if I could get my hands on a gun that could be another (which would be very easy, unfortunately). I don't really have a set method currently, but I do have my eye on hanging. Thank you for asking, been wanting to get that weight off my shoulders:)

May I recommend to you what I like to call Horizontal Hanging!

Unusual way of the carotid artery method

Case: A 37-year old male was found dead in his home where he lived alone, with no signs of forced entry to the house. The body was lying supine on the dining table, with the feet hanging free and the head completely resting on the table. A thick, orange-coloured rope was wrapped three times...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[waRmblanket]

May I recommend to you what I like to call Horizontal Hanging!

Unusual way of the carotid artery method

Case: A 37-year old male was found dead in his home where he lived alone, with no signs of forced entry to the house. The body was lying supine on the dining table, with the feet hanging free and the head completely resting on the table. A thick, orange-coloured rope was wrapped three times...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Jaja appreciated, but not a preference! Thank you though:)