ctb in prison

[alown]

what are the solutions according to you to put an end to this hell being locked up in prison ?

enumerating the hanging would be in my opinion the only solution but knowing that the guards generally do not leave even a lace available. other suggestions ?

 

[yeahwellso]

what are the solutions according to you to put an end to this hell being locked up in prison ?

It's not according to me, it's simply a fact that suicides in prison are usually by hanging. Apart from cutting, it's basically the only available method there.

enumerating the hanging

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but knowing that the guards generally do not leave even a lace available

That depends. Unless a prisoner is actually on suicide watch, no particular precautions are taken. I'm sure that in American prisons belts and shoelaces might generally be disallowed, but prisoners still have access to clothing and bed linens.

Unless a prisoner is on suicide watch, there is nothing preventing him from hanging himself. Also, a million things can be made into a sharp enough object to cut and exsanguinate oneself.

 

[alown]

It's not according to me, it's simply a fact that suicides in prison are usually by hanging. Apart from cutting, it's basically the only available method there.


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That depends. Unless a prisoner is actually on suicide watch, no particular precautions are taken. I'm sure that in American prisons belts and shoelaces might generally be disallowed, but prisoners still have access to clothing and bed linens.

Unless a prisoner is on suicide watch, there is nothing preventing him from hanging himself. Also, a million things can be made into a sharp enough object to cut and exsanguinate oneself.

Getting bleeding or cutting oneself, from what I have read in different archives and different articles, only very rarely leads to death.

 

[Bootleg Astolfo]

Say you have compromising information about the rich elites and you'll end up suicided in a prison cell quicker than you can blow the whistle.

 

[yeahwellso]

Getting bleeding or cutting oneself, from what I have read in different archives and different articles, only very rarely leads to death.

Yes, and that's why most prison suicides are hangings. Most people cannot bring themselves to cut deep enough for it to be deadly. People are hardwired to not want to cut themselves. People who self-harm have been cutting themselves for a long time before they get to where they're cutting so deep that they risk bleeding out.

 

[Toptock]

Say you have compromising information about the rich elites and you'll end up suicided in a prison cell quicker than you can blow the whistle.

I mean, that's certainly effective. Another method I've heard of is starting a fight with some guards while feigning a mental crisis. Outside it's "Suicide by cop"

 

[alown]

hunger strike can be a possible solution too, I don't think a warden can force to eat.

 

[Toptock]

hunger strike can be a possible solution too, I don't think a warden can force to eat.

Characteristics of Inmates Who Initiate Hunger Strikes

A hunger strike is a common, expensive, and potentially lethal event within a correctional institution. In this study, we describe the characteristics of inmates who initiated hunger strikes in a state prison system. Electronic medical records for a state prison system were reviewed for...

jaapl.org

"The Declaration of Malta further maintains that it is never ethically acceptable for physicians to force-feed competent hunger strikers and states: "It is ethical to allow a determined hunger striker to die in dignity rather than submit that person to repeated interventions against his or her will."5 The American Medical Association (AMA) has endorsed the WMA's position against force-feeding competent prisoners and detainees,6 and the International Committee of the Red Cross has expressed a similar position."

 

[alown]

Characteristics of Inmates Who Initiate Hunger Strikes

A hunger strike is a common, expensive, and potentially lethal event within a correctional institution. In this study, we describe the characteristics of inmates who initiated hunger strikes in a state prison system. Electronic medical records for a state prison system were reviewed for...

jaapl.org

"The Declaration of Malta further maintains that it is never ethically acceptable for physicians to force-feed competent hunger strikers and states: "It is ethical to allow a determined hunger striker to die in dignity rather than submit that person to repeated interventions against his or her will."5 The American Medical Association (AMA) has endorsed the WMA's position against force-feeding competent prisoners and detainees,6 and the International Committee of the Red Cross has expressed a similar position."

do you know if they are the same laws in Europe?

 

[Toptock]

I don't even know the laws here, so I couldn't say

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

If I'm ever locked up in prison, I'd finally consider doing an attempt with my bearshaek adrenaline technique + valsalva maneuver combination to induce a heart attack/subarachnoid hemorrhage.
I'll have nothing to lose so, I wouldn't care about the risk.

 

[Outofhope]

Honesty the prison I was in, heroin was rife. Probably could OD if you tried really hard.

 

[alown]

If I'm ever locked up in prison, I'd finally consider doing an attempt with my bearshaek adrenaline technique + valsalva maneuver combination to induce a heart attack/subarachnoid hemorrhage.
I'll have nothing to lose so, I wouldn't care about the risk.

Can you reveal more details about this technique?

 

[Brokenwithbpd]

Yes, and that's why most prison suicides are hangings. Most people cannot bring themselves to cut deep enough for it to be deadly. People are hardwired to not want to cut themselves. People who self-harm have been cutting themselves for a long time before they get to where they're cutting so deep that they risk bleeding out.

I attempted to cut my femoral artery once which landed myself in the icu for 5 days. It's not pretty and man, you have to reallllly go deep. Like over and over again

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Can you reveal more details about this technique?

Basically it's like this.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807902041011781655/819465656129814538/video0.mov

 

[alown]

Basically it's like this.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807902041011781655/819465656129814538/video0.mov

really good to know. but it looks complex anyway. I imagine that the death given is not sweet and must cause a lot of suffering.

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

really good to know. but it looks complex anyway. I imagine that the death given is not sweet and must cause a lot of suffering.

I'll say it's easier than you'd think if you were to see me demonstrate it. It's hard to perform the technique based on words alone. The one thing I will say is that you're right about death being unpleasant. I have experimented with the bearshaek and valsalva maneuver combination at a low grade and gave myself a thunderclap headache. I'd expect it to be much worse, but if it goes perfectly well, you should die at that very moment.

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

i would just refuse food. wouldn't be too hard knowing what prison food is like

 

[TheLoneEuropean]

what are the solutions according to you to put an end to this hell being locked up in prison ?

enumerating the hanging would be in my opinion the only solution but knowing that the guards generally do not leave even a lace available. other suggestions ?

They hang, or cutt themselves. You have laces in prison, not at the policestation.

 

[justpeachy]

I mean, that's certainly effective. Another method I've heard of is starting a fight with some guards while feigning a mental crisis. Outside it's "Suicide by cop"

Not going to work inside, most correction officers do not carry weapons and absolutely do not just carry guns around. Sometimes the guys in the towers have guns but that's for anyone escaping. You will just get pepper sprayed. Not to mention forcing someone to be part of your choice is a pretty shitty thing to do to someone. Especially given most of us want nothing more than a choice...

 

[insanedoomer]

starvation , strangulation !!

 

[Willdieby30]

Not going to work inside, most correction officers do not carry weapons and absolutely do not just carry guns around. Sometimes the guys in the towers have guns but that's for anyone escaping. You will just get pepper sprayed. Not to mention forcing someone to be part of your choice is a pretty shitty thing to do to someone. Especially given most of us want nothing more than a choice...

ive attempted suicide by cop before, i don't regret it, I would do it again in a identical/similar situation (for the record, they transgressed and escalated the situation, so even in a more "neutral" scenario, i may do it, though not as likely). i did however say the next day to the guy who released me that i was "sorry if i affected the officers' mental health". what you said about involving others, and choice, which for me kind of hints at "we're all just doing our jobs" and 'personal philosophies around choice and what society mandates' is valid as well, i respect that. felt i owed it to you to write this, since i liked your response

 

[alown]

i would just refuse food. wouldn't be too hard knowing what prison food is like

I will do probably the same.

 

[Kawika12]

Unfortunately I live in Utah. I wonder how they would force feed. IV?