Covid19 - The REAL agenda?

[RC90]

Microchipping is inevitable at some point. I imagine it will be something like lots of postal voting because of covid, then one side will claim the election was rigged due to postal vote fraud, so we need to be able to verify identity and the only way to do it is to chip everyone.

Plus to get benefits, healthcare, and etc.

Well I will refuse that and move the the mountains and survive on leaves if I had to do that. I rather die than being micro chipped.
These are worrying times indeed and yet people are abiding like sheep to everything. The illuminati are def taking over since 9/11.

 

[marcusuk63]

Well I will refuse that and move the the mountains and survive on leaves if I had to do that. I rather die than being micro chipped.
These are worrying times indeed and yet people are abiding like sheep to everything. The illuminati are def taking over since 9/11.

I wish i had this guy's skill , it`s so relaxing watching him , very little background music ,very little talking just him going about his day building and cooking lol , i`m envious

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[TheNorthernSilence]

The thing about overpopulation is that it can't actually exist. If u ever noticed that it only looks overpopulated in dense big cities but most of the planet is not inhabited even though it could be. They encourage us to move into the densely packed cities so we can more easily be controlled and kept in one area. Nature will take people out naturally who either aren't healthy or if there are not enough resources normally. The real issue is not that we don't have enough resources to take care of the people alive but because the governments control and limit access to the resources people need and also access to knowledge. Government tampers with the natural incentive structure and honest economy which alters fertility. Government can increase and decrease fertility among the various demographics which is not natural either. Typically in a natural environment the fittest, healthiest people survive and many kids never make it to full adulthood if it wasn't for modern medicine.

This post is just pure hatred, eugenics and fascism.

 

[TheQ22]

I wish i had this guy's skill , it`s so relaxing watching him , very little background music ,very little talking just him going about his day building and cooking lol , i`m envious

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That's impressive - wish I could do that too.

This post is just pure hatred, eugenics and fascism.

Overpopulation can exist, we can't just cover the planet in people and take the habitat of other species, they aren't just open spaces that we can fill.

There's a great video on YT by the late professor Albert Bartlett called the most important video you'll ever see, it's a real eye opener.

If our population carries on growing at the rate it is, in something like 200 years there would be one person per square meter across the land mass of the entire planet.

I once had the honour of talking to him and asked this question - what's going to happen, since clearly that can never be, and he simply said along the lines of "I don't know, but something will happen to stop it, that much is guaranteed".

In that lecture he lists the things that could happen, one of which will, and of course pandemic is in there.

He was an incredible man.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

This post is just pure hatred, eugenics and fascism.

What do you mean?
What did the person say which makes you say that?
From what I understood, they were just describing what they perceive to be the case.

 

[TheNorthernSilence]

What do you mean?
What did the person say which makes you say that?

Survival of the fittest type thinking.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

Survival of the fittest type thinking.

Do you not think that darwinian processes operate in nature?

 

[TheNorthernSilence]

Do you not think that darwinian processes operate in nature?

To some extent, yes. But you're missing the whole point. She wants a world where everyone is on their own. I mean, how fucked up thinking is that? The core of our whole humanity is how we treat our most vulnerable individuals.

 

[TheQ22]

The core of our whole humanity is how we treat our most vulnerable individuals.

Idealistically it is, romantically maybe even.

In reality and historically humanity is killing each other to take one anothers resources.

I think the notion of humanity is probably more wishful thinking than anything all but a very rare few have ever displayed.

 

[BitterlyAlive]

You're not alone on that. I believe that there's a hidden agenda behind this COVID story that we aren't being told. So glad someone sees the same as me.

The real illuminati, I totally agree with you. And I also believe a micro chip will be implanted on us soon. That's why Microsoft is so involved in helping getting the alleged vaccine. I won't put that poison on me, and I won't be micro chipped either. I'm so glad there's people like you who sees the real agenda behind this. Well said to everything. I'm actually reading all this again.

Don't forget Neuralink!

 

[esse_est_percipi]

She wants a world where everyone is on their own. I mean, how fucked up thinking is that? The core of our whole humanity is how we treat our most vulnerable individuals

i'm not sure they were saying that exactly.

I agree though, societies should be organized around protecting and helping the most vulnerable, whilst recognizing the basic right of each individual to live or die. But sadly this is not, nor ever has been, the case.

Humanity never really overcame darwinian principles, just modified them slightly to suit the agendas of the owners/lords/monarchs/capitalists.

 

[TheNorthernSilence]

i'm not sure they were saying that exactly.

I agree though, societies should be organized around protecting and helping the most vulnerable, whilst recognizing the basic right of each individual to live or die. But sadly this is not, nor ever has been, the case.

Humanity never really overcame darwinian principles, just modified them slightly to suit the agendas of the owners/lords/monarchs/capitalists.

It's been her agenda for the whole time she's been on here. And yes, we are far from a perfect world, I never said anything otherwise. I'm not convinced that Darwinian theories can be applied to that extent.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

It's been her agenda for the whole time she's been on here

oh, ok. I have no idea about that.

 

[RC90]

Microchipping is inevitable at some point. I imagine it will be something like lots of postal voting because of covid, then one side will claim the election was rigged due to postal vote fraud, so we need to be able to verify identity and the only way to do it is to chip everyone.

Plus to get benefits, healthcare, and etc.

Well I'm not putting any chip on me. I'll just move the mountains and never come back,

 

[Life.Journey.Unknown]

Here is some footage I found on youtube showing the protest against our rights and freedoms being taken away. I believe this was organised by Unite For Freedom and Stand Up X.

This was from August 29th at Trafalgar Square, London. It was barely reported on the news and mainstream media.

On the same day there were other protests around Europe, but they were also given minimal news coverage.

Things like this will not be shown on the mainstream news channels in case it encourages other people to think for themselves and begin to see we are giving away our freedom and civil liberties.

This shows that there are a great number of people around the world willing to stand up and protest for their freedoms.

 

[Meditation guide]

I don't know why people can't just accept there is a pandemic and it's brutal and it's made by nature and not a conspiracy.
I really don't have respect for humanity, any small shred is now completely gone. At least in USA.

I guess when you have the illiteracy rates, drop out rates, drug usage, propaganda we have now we are just sitting ducks for whatever batshit crazy stuff anyone with an ulterior motive wants to feed us. It's like the country has been lobotomized.

I know some otherwise intelligent people too who fall for it all. I never realized that propaganda was so powerful but we have some experienced experts in that field using social media as a weapon of war to divide our country and have us at each others throats. And zero leadership that is willing to stand up to it.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

I don't know why people can't just accept there is a pandemic and it's brutal and it's made by nature and not a conspiracy

because the evidence doesn't point that way

I never realized that propaganda was so powerful

the coronavirus pandemic is an example of propaganda. I too am baffled how so many people could have bought into it

 

[JustLosingMyself]

Is this a ''Conspiracy Theorists of the World Unite'' thread?
I won't mince words. The premise of this virus being a bio weapon released for some bizarre and speculated purpose is CLAPTRAP!
Viri come and go, sone are benign, some are not. Every so often we run into this type of problem.

 

[BitterlyAlive]

Is this a ''Conspiracy Theorists of the World Unite'' thread?
I won't mince words. The premise of this virus being a bio weapon released for some bizarre and speculated purpose is CLAPTRAP!
Viri come and go, sone are benign, some are not. Every so often we run into this type of problem.

My issue with it is, we've dealt with viral outbreaks time and time again. This one arguably isn't as bad as others in the past, so why are all of these precautions and rules being set in place now?

But I'm young and dumb and hardly know what I'm talking about. I just feel skeptical.

 

[JustLosingMyself]

My issue with it is, we've dealt with viral outbreaks time and time again. This one arguably isn't as bad as others in the past, so why are all of these precautions and rules being set in place now?

But I'm young and dumb and hardly know what I'm talking about. I just feel skeptical.

Fair enough, you're only talking 5% mortality rate, mostly in older people or with those unlucky enough to have underlying conditions. If you want to see the effects of it left unchecked just look to the US. By Xmas there's decent odds the US will count 400k+ dead.
You're dealing with an airborne virus, whose longer term effects are just beginning to be seen and documented, which has a fair chance of crippling a 20% of those who catch it and don't shake it off. Look for the Covid long haulers.
Why everything is being put in place ''now''? I don't know where you're based. In most of Europe those precautions dropped like a ton of bricks in February March (except Swedeb and UK) Most Asia same. Only the US, Brazil, the Philippines and the UK dithered and the leadership either watched while holding their dicks in their hand or knowingly did nothing. The results in these countries is edifying.

The 'precautions' are a difficult balancing act to limit the spread until a safe and effective vaccine becomes available or the virus loses some of it's virulence.

If you're referring to the 1918 pandemic, the European Black Death, doing nothing had rather bleak results: we did not know what it was, and people did what they could with masks and quarantines as they could and died by the millions

We now have the luxury to know what we can do to slow this down until there's a vaccine or a cure for this disease. Why squander it in the name of ignorance and convenience?

 

[esse_est_percipi]

The 'precautions' are a difficult balancing act to limit the spread until a safe and effective vaccine becomes available or the virus loses some of it's virulence.

This just sounds like an official government soundbite.
brought to you by big brother.

 

[Life.Journey.Unknown]

As an example of here in the UK, here is a graph showing the daily deaths since the outbreak began.

Looking at the graph, deaths (my thoughts with anyone affected) have dropped considerably. Looking at that graph you'd be forgiven into thinking we can all start living our lives as normal again. But no, we are still having to wear masks, only socialise in groups of no more than six, local lockdowns and 10pm curfews in place in parts of the country. Not forgetting the constant threat of the second lockdown.

I found this graph on a site called www.worldometers.info/coronavirus
It's an interesting site where you can view all the data, graphs for countries all around the world

Have a look for yourselves and see what you think

 

[Meditation guide]

The U.S. has less than 5% of the world's population but 25% of all Covid-19 deaths.

We are not allowed to visit Canada and Europe.

Other countries have this virus under control while in our country it is raging out of control just like the wildfires along the West Coast are.

If we had effective leadership this wouldn't be happening. Instead our leadership has admitted it has been lying to us all along about the virus, saying they deliberately downplayed it and are still downplaying it. All this so the president can tell the moronic population they should re elect him.

 

[JustLosingMyself]

This just sounds like an official government soundbite.
brought to you by big brother.

All reasonable answers and compromises tend to be ''government big brother soundbites''. Difficult problems never have simple answers. Anyone saying otherwise either doesn't care, is an idiot or worse.

Current choices until a vaccine is available or the virus loses some of its virulence :

1 let it run rampant and pray not too much harm is done. (US idea ; works bigly well)

2 declare martial law and prohibit any activity bar 1 walk a day and 1 weekly shopping trip or less (China, Spain and France tried this). It only works until the pathogen comes back in through travel. Then reboot...

3 try to balance things out and make it bearable however unpleasant but can get people to cooperate with. This is damage limitation.

I'll take the 3rd one over the other 2, and no it isn't 1984 with the pronouncement of the Ministry of Truth. Just trying to get on with things

As an example of here in the UK, here is a graph showing the daily deaths since the outbreak began.

Looking at the graph, deaths (my thoughts with anyone affected) have dropped considerably. Looking at that graph you'd be forgiven into thinking we can all start living our lives as normal again. But no, we are still having to wear masks, only socialise in groups of no more than six, local lockdowns and 10pm curfews in place in parts of the country. Not forgetting the constant threat of the second lockdown.

I found this graph on a site called www.worldometers.info/coronavirus
It's an interesting site where you can view all the data, graphs for countries all around the world

Have a look for yourselves and see what you think

Dearh rate is down because it's spreading in a younger age group that is more likely to survive. The medium to long term effects are still unknown, but data suggests they can be crippling and potentially prevent people from working normally. That alone is worth keeping the precautionary measures in place until there's a way out of this mess

Nobody wants a large section of society unable to work and on disability benefits.

 

[Meditation guide]

let it run rampant and pray not too much harm is done. (US idea ; works bigly well)

The president now has chosen to use "herd mentality" as he called it (he meant to say herd immunity) and hired someone on Fox news to advise him on it who was the person who talked about herd immunity. What that means is to continue to allow everyone to get sick and die, while decreasing testing for it. He has ordered the CDC to recommend not testing anyone who does not have symptoms. He wants those numbers to go down before the election any way he can make that happen.

data suggests they can be crippling and potentially prevent people from working normally.

Lots of people especially if they were on ventilators have permanent disabilities from that. One man was on one for 3 months and lost all his muscles and could not sit up walk or feed himself.

 

[Life.Journey.Unknown]

Does anybody have views on what's happening in Sweden and how they are getting on?

The way I understand it is they never had lockdowns and I don't think they wear masks either and apparently they are getting on really well. Then I read other articles that say they aren't getting on as well as they seem.

 

[Life.Journey.Unknown]

In the UK the rules are you need to wear a face mask or face covering to go in to a shop. But shop workers don't need to wear one. That doesn't make sense - does working in a shop make them exempt from catching or spreading the virus? That rule sounds stupid and contradicts itself regarding the spread of a virus.

I go in shops and supermarkets, I look around and all the shoppers have masks on. But on the tills the shop assistants aren't wearing any masks.

Any UK people have a view on that? Or anybody world wide what do you think on that rule we have?

 

[TheQ22]

I just went to shop and forgot to wear it. Another person was in there without one. The girl behind counter didn't have one. Does it make any difference?

 

[Life.Journey.Unknown]

I just went to shop and forgot to wear it. Another person was in there without one. The girl behind counter didn't have one. Does it make any difference?

No it doesn't make a difference at all, I believe there's nothing wrong with not wearing a mask.

But I'm referring to the rule that the government have brought in saying shoppers should wear a mask but shop workers are exempt. Because that doesn't make sense.
For example today I was in a shop today without a mask, but I pulled my tshirt over my mouth and nose. When I was paying, my tshirt slipped down for a second and I pulled it up again. But the shop assistant said next time I need to wear a mask because t-shirts slip down. The ironic thing was she wasn't wearing a mask herself.

My point is the contradictions in the law/rule/guidance the government gives us.

 

[Nanami]

Yikes.