Conscious for SN Convulsions?

[TheSomebody]

If I was a prolifer I would be talking out on all the methods, I don't because I've no issue with hanging etc. It's the SN I have issue with because I know hypoxia through SN is no joke and it would be a scary way to die. I'm sorry for trying to make people more aware of what may happen.

Like I've said, I've worked in the medical field. So I'm not just pulling this out of my ass.

are there any reports of people here who survived SN and reported pain while unconscious or convulsing???

Also, you know that hanging can cause a lot of pain if done wrong and still leave you with brain damage if you are found, right?


It is strange to say that SN should never be recommended because it is painful, since almost all methods can be painful too and still have serious consequences if someone find you.

 

[timetofly]

And just to say Nembutal is a good way to go

This is just pure trolling at this point...

 

[woxihuanni]

If person says anything too funny, you guys tell me because she is obviously on my ignore

 

[Ghost2211]

And just to say Nembutal is a good way to go. Fentanyl if you can get it is also very quick.

I think most of us would prefer these, but they are not easy to get.

 

[Delia]

And just to say Nembutal is a good way to go. Fentanyl if you can get it is also very quick.

woop deee do now can you make a go fund me so we can all contact A and get our N i've been waiting for this since 1875

 

[Niftypoint124]

And just to say Nembutal is a good way to go. Fentanyl if you can get it is also very quick.

*insert "How do you do fellow kids?" dot gif*

 

[royalfuzz]

I was asked what I thought was a good way to ctb, I answered. I don't know why you're jumping on me because of it?

As for hanging, I have no issue with it, it's not a way I would go but if I did it would be from a height.

 

[LADY007]

I had my blood pressure tank once getting blood drawn to the point I became hypoxic. I passed out and went into the convulsions apparently but I woke up with no recollection of it. 100% peaceful
It was actually really funny because I was trying to be brave about it because my s/o is terrified of needles. I knew I was gonna pass out because I always do, but this time I woke up wearing one shoe and surrounded by concerned staff members, and the first thing I do is look at him and go "See? Nothing to be afraid of" with no knowledge that I pretty much had a seizure

Here is your solution....Ask for a butterfly needle. All the places I go and have blood drawn use them. It is much smaller than a regular one and you won't be afraid anymore.

 

[raindrop]

What royalfuzz said is also the reason why I'm afraid of SN. It scared the fuck out of me as the observer of letzteAusfahrt's suicide in his goodbye - thread described that LA tried hard to say something but couldn't. Or in another goodbye-threat (sorry, forgot the name of the member) someone observed that the person tried to say fuck, fuck, fuck before getting unconscious.
I am not a pro lifer but I really would like to have a method that does not give me the worst panic attack or horrible pain in my last seconds.

 

[demuic]

What royalfuzz said is also the reason why I'm afraid of SN. It scared the fuck out of me as the observer of letzteAusfahrt's suicide in his goodbye - thread described that LA tried hard to say something but couldn't. Or in another goodbye-threat (sorry, forgot the name of the member) someone observed that the person tried to say fuck, fuck, fuck before getting unconscious.
I am not a pro lifer but I really would like to have a method that does not give me the worst panic attack or horrible pain in my last seconds.

Probably they just started to get anxious or scared, I don't see that as an indication of physical pain. Though I haven't seen either of those threads.

 

[woxihuanni]

What royalfuzz said is also the reason why I'm afraid of SN. It scared the fuck out of me as the observer of letzteAusfahrt's suicide in his goodbye - thread described that LA tried hard to say something but couldn't. Or in another goodbye-threat (sorry, forgot the name of the member) someone observed that the person tried to say fuck, fuck, fuck before getting unconscious.
I am not a pro lifer but I really would like to have a method that does not give me the worst panic attack or horrible pain in my last seconds.

If only you cared enough about the late members of this family who sacrificed the privacy of their last moments to give us information to remember their names.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

I was asked what I thought was a good way to ctb, I answered. I don't know why you're jumping on me because of it?

As for hanging, I have no issue with it, it's not a way I would go but if I did it would be from a height.

Hanging is painful af, and it has more risks than SN. Brain damage if saved, high probability of suffocation (if the carotid isn't pressed) which is extremely painful etc. etc.

 

[Sherri]

When I used to scuba dive, back when life was actually good there used to be people who always had decompression sickness. They had convulsions and they were all conscious and could explain what happened after. So as much as it seems like a later stage thing, i am still pretty sure you are conscious for it even if it doesn't look like it.

I really do think SN is an abhorrent way to go and I'm so shocked anyone suggested it. Which is why I always speak out on the SN threads. I worked in the medical field and it's shocking that sodium nitrate is used for a suicide.

So do you have a better painless solution? I'd love to hear.

 

[Symbiote]

Every method has complications with it. Granted all of us wanted a 100% painless death with no ill side effects getting there. That's just wishful thinking. You take a risk deciding on how you want to go and then you either accept the risk or give up and keep on living life and die of a natural death. People who didn't follow the regimen for any method described in this forum had problems. People who followed the regimen had problems. We are the guinea pigs to these methods since there's no scientific study on suicide. My past experience to SN was positive, but it may not be that way again on the second try, but that's a RISK I'm willing to accept.

A little physical pain to get to the next life is nothing compared to the pain we have already endured mentally, physically, and spiritually. If you're still anxious about death, then you're not ready for death. If you're cool with it, made amends, and you are ready regardless of consequences, I wish you luck and safe travels.

 

[royalfuzz]

So do you have a better painless solution? I'd love to hear.

I already said above I think Nembutal and fentanyl are painless. It's just getting them is pretty difficult.

Hanging is painful af, and it has more risks than SN. Brain damage if saved, high probability of suffocation (if the carotid isn't pressed) which is extremely painful etc. etc.

I think partial hanging is definitely more risky but hanging from a height where your neck would break would be what I would do if it came to it.
I want to also add in regards to the SN protocol, I think the meto isn't a good idea. I'd definitely use ondansetron as an anti emetic instead.

 

[StuFin]

I have an issue with royalfuzz, he/she seems to be totally anti SN, they seem to be trying to put anyone off it, yet mis-spelled it sodium nitrate. Despite claiming to be medical.

I think the top and bottom of it is, whatever method you use - it's not going to all be milk and honey, there's going to be discomfort at best, and pain at worst, and if SN gives most people a way out with a bit of discomfort and a bit of vomiting, then that's got to be better than jumping in front of a train, or making a mess of hanging yourself and going out in pain.

Let people go in peace without trying to put your spin on it.

Personally I'd rather do CO or Nitrogen, I just don't have the confidence in CO being 100% effective, or in getting the nitrogen method right.

So SN is the next best thing.

Having someone going on and on about how bad it is, when they aren't going to do that anyway, makes me question their motives.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

I already said above I think Nembutal and fentanyl are painless. It's just getting them is pretty difficult.

I think partial hanging is definitely more risky but hanging from a height where your neck would break would be what I would do if it came to it.

It is hard to calculate and find the right height for neck breaking, most people who hang themselves suffocate which is EXTREMELY painful.

 

[Sherri]

I was asked what I thought was a good way to ctb, I answered. I don't know why you're jumping on me because of it?

As for hanging, I have no issue with it, it's not a way I would go but if I did it would be from a height.

Yes I agree if Nembutal was easy, there would be no members here. Fentanyl is also hard. So that's leave us with less options.

It is hard to calculate and find the right height for neck breaking, most people who hang themselves suffocate which is EXTREMELY painful.

Yeah that's a big no on my list of ctb.

 

[StuFin]

It is hard to calculate and find the right height for neck breaking, most people who hang themselves suffocate which is EXTREMELY painful.

Make the drop too long and it will take the head off - decapitation - and that has happened.

 

[royalfuzz]

I have an issue with royalfuzz, he/she seems to be totally anti SN, they seem to be trying to put anyone off it, yet mis-spelled it sodium nitrate. Despite claiming to be medical.

I think the top and bottom of it is, whatever method you use - it's not going to all be milk and honey, there's going to be discomfort at best, and pain at worst, and if SN gives most people a way out with a bit of discomfort and a bit of vomiting, then that's got to be better than jumping in front of a train, or making a mess of hanging yourself and going out in pain.

Let people go in peace without trying to put your spin on it.

Personally I'd rather do CO or Nitrogen, I just don't have the confidence in CO being 100% effective, or in getting the nitrogen method right.

So SN is the next best thing.

Having someone going on and on about how bad it is, when they aren't going to do that anyway, makes me question their motives.

If someone puts a question up about it I will answer just like you can answer also. The way SN is talked about here makes it seem a easy way to go and I'm simply trying to make people realise it isn't.
If it's the only option for some then use it but if others have time and ability to find a more peaceful method then they should. I'm a big advocate for euthanasia in my country and I am definitely pro choice.

The mis spelling was an auto correct.

It is hard to calculate and find the right height for neck breaking, most people who hang themselves suffocate which is EXTREMELY painful.

Theres a 37m bridge near where I live, there have been many people who have tied a noose and jumped from it and none of them survived. So I know if it was my only choice it's probably what I would choose.

 

[woxihuanni]

Every method has complications with it. Granted all of us wanted a 100% painless death with no ill side effects getting there. That's just wishful thinking. You take a risk deciding on how you want to go and then you either accept the risk or give up and keep on living life and die of a natural death. People who didn't follow the regimen for any method described in this forum had problems. People who followed the regimen had problems. We are the guinea pigs to these methods since there's no scientific study on suicide. My past experience to SN was positive, but it may not be that way again on the second try, but that's a RISK I'm willing to accept.

A little physical pain to get to the next life is nothing compared to the pain we have already endured mentally, physically, and spiritually. If you're still anxious about death, then you're not ready for death. If you're cool with it, made amends, and you are ready regardless of consequences, I wish you luck and safe travels.

She is not going anywhere, she is a prolifer.

 

[mahakaliSS_MahaDurga]

If someone puts a question up about it I will answer just like you can answer also. The way SN is talked about here makes it seem a easy way to go and I'm simply trying to make people realise it isn't.
If it's the only option for some then use it but if others have time and ability to find a more peaceful method then they should. I'm a big advocate for euthanasia in my country and I am definitely pro choice.

The mis spelling was an auto correct.

Theres a 37m bridge near where I live, there have been many people who have tied a noose and jumped from it and none of them survived. So I know if it was my only choice it's probably what I would choose.

We are talking about the peacefullness of a method, not survival rate.

 

[royalfuzz]

We are talking about the peacefullness of a method, not survival rate.

Well it's instant death so I'd say it's peaceful.

 

[Delia]

anyways, besides your occasional reminder that there are account of people who survived that method in the forum ie people who went through the awful unbearable pain of ingesting 50 ml of salty water, I should add that this person needs to rename themselves Royalfuss because that's what they caused

 

[Ghost2211]

I want to also add in regards to the SN protocol, I think the meto isn't a good idea. I'd definitely use ondansetron as an anti emetic instead.

why not use both? They have different function and don't seem to be problematic together.




@pissedoff77 when did your son pass? If he was a member we might know who he was with more info. I see you deleted your post so I won't reference it with anymore detail than that. Are you here to find him, or to be part of the community?

 

[royalfuzz]

why not use both? They have different function and don't seem to be problematic together.
@pissedoff77 when did your son pass? If he was a member we might know who he was with more info. I see you deleted your post so I won't reference it with anymore detail than that. Are you here to find him, or to be part of the community?

Meto is more known for unwanted side effects.

 

[Ghost2211]

Meto is more known for unwanted side effects.

We know that much. The desired effect is draining the stomach faster.

 

[royalfuzz]

anyways, besides your occasional reminder that there are account of people who survived that method in the forum ie people who went through the awful unbearable pain of ingesting 50 ml of salty water, I should add that this person needs to rename themselves Royalfuss because that's what they caused

Thanks, I have honestly never meant to come across as someone who's trying to do anything but show concern over that particular method.

I also don't think it's very nice you saying I'm a fuss. My family already remind me of that plenty of times because I'm needing more and more help to complete tasks.

We know that much. The desired effect is draining the stomach faster.

If you've fasted there's nothing in the stomach to drain. If people are thinking it's going to empty the SN quicker then that's incorrect. It would need to be taken at the same time as the SN for that action to be performed.

 

[Delia]

Thanks, I have honestly never meant to come across as someone who's trying to do anything but show concern over that particular method.

I also don't think it's very nice you saying I'm a fuss. My family already remind me of that plenty of times because I'm needing more and more help to complete tasks.

Honestly it was more of a pun on your name and the whole scene your concern generated on this thread, nothing more nothing less :>

 

[k75]

why not use both? They have different function and don't seem to be problematic together.

I know for a fact that it's ok to take the two together. I'm prescribed both, and I specifically asked my gastroenterologist about it. I was told to take both at the same time when my nausea is especially bad.