Conflicting opinions on the painfulness of opioid OD

[Sparx]

In my attempt to find a painless/peaceful way out I keep finding problems with every method. Firstly I tried nitrogen/SCBA but found it wan't peaceful for me due to feelings of suffocation. Then I bought SN but threads started to appear on the forum claiming it was an unpleasant or even painful experience.

Then I discovered RC's, specifically protonitazene (an ultra powerful opioid with higher potency then fentanyl) and this seemed promising. I must've read every thread on the forum discussing ctb with opioids and have seen conflicting opinions on whether it would be painless or not. Some people who have previously OD'd have claimed it was very peaceful, even euphoric. While others have claimed it was an unpleasant experience, terrible fear/anxiety, painful cramps, extreme nausea etc.

I believe a high dose of sedatives (e.g. benzodiazepines) may be required to make opioid OD peaceful, that wouldn't be a problem as I have also sourced RC benzos (bromazolam). But I'm just getting a bit terrified now of taking such a potent substance as a -zene. I'm opioid naive and would probably be using the oral route or snorting.

I just want it to be like going to sleep and never waking up, I guess most of us want that but without being able to get hold of N is that even possible? I'm considering switching method to carisoprodol & benzos instead, maybe that would be more peaceful? Any advice is appreciated.

 

[sparkle]

Might depend on ROA, I've had a few heroin ODs from IV, it's peaceful, just a fade to unconsciousness followed by complete cessation of breathing if the dose is high enough, though you'll probably vomit and choke if you do it laying back, but you won't be awake to feel it. I imagine taking something orally and feeling the OD come on a little slower might induce a lot of anxiety or fear as you feel yourself shutting down, though I can't say from experience. The benzos will definitely help you keep a cool head, just don't fall asleep before you finish the job.

 

[Sparx]

Might depend on ROA, I've had a few heroin ODs from IV, it's peaceful, just a fade to unconsciousness followed by complete cessation of breathing if the dose is high enough, though you'll probably vomit and choke if you do it laying back, but you won't be awake to feel it. I imagine taking something orally and feeling the OD come on a little slower might induce a lot of anxiety or fear as you feel yourself shutting down, though I can't say from experience. The benzos will definitely help you keep a cool head, just don't fall asleep before you finish the job.

My plan was to take a few alcoholic drinks then a high dose of the benzo and a few grams of carisoprodol. Then as I start to feel the effects of those two, swallow an enteric acid-resistant capsule containing the opioid & more of the benzo. The capsules I bought should release in the small intestine after about 45 minutes to 1 hour. The hope being that I would already be passed out by the time the opioid kicks in.

 

[vaguebluur]

Ick if it's stronger than fent you would probably be good I was talking about weaker opioids like morphine on the other thread. I'd use a really high dose of benzos followed by the lethal dose of fent analog

 

[sparkle]

Careful with the alcohol and benzos, it will knock you out faster than you think, don't leave it too long. It seems like a pretty solid plan though. Are you planning on using a -zene opioid? I have read reports of it having a much weaker effect when taken orally, but a large enough dose should get the job done, maybe someone with experience using RC opioids can chime in

 

[Inteoop]

I'd look for accounts of ODs outside of the forum, I don't think it's unlikely there are people trying to fear monger here, and lie.

 

[Sparx]

Ick if it's stronger than fent you would probably be good I was talking about weaker opioids like morphine on the other thread. I'd use a really high dose of benzos followed by the lethal dose of fent analog

It's supposed to be twice the potency of fent and 200x of morphine. I have half-filled a size 1 capsule so it's probably contains between 100-200mg. I have 250mg bromazolam and 5g carisoprodol and might take all of those.

Careful with the alcohol and benzos, it will knock you out faster than you think, don't leave it too long. It seems like a pretty solid plan though. Are you planning on using a -zene opioid? I have read reports of it having a much weaker effect when taken orally, but a large enough dose should get the job done, maybe someone with experience using RC opioids can chime in

Yes protonitazene. I read that too so maybe I should take more? I put about 100-200mg in the capsule but I received 1g. If I'm feeling brave enough I could snort a line. @Proper Overdoser has 50mg in his 'emergency' capsule and MMQ as well.

I'd look for accounts of ODs outside of the forum, I don't think it's unlikely there are people trying to fear monger here, and lie.

Yes there was suspicion that some of the painful SN accounts were made by pro-lifers trying to put others off the method.

 

[that smell]

I'm curious why you had feelings of suffocation with a SCBA and inert gas? The sensation comes from a buildup of CO2, not a lack of oxygen. Since you're exhaling still, the CO2 shouldn't build up and it shouldn't be too uncomfortable. Was it more of a psychological feeling from wearing an apparatus?

 

[Sparx]

I'm curious why you had feelings of suffocation with a SCBA and inert gas? The sensation comes from a buildup of CO2, not a lack of oxygen. Since you're exhaling still, the CO2 shouldn't build up and it shouldn't be too uncomfortable. Was it more of a psychological feeling from wearing an apparatus?

I never found out what was wrong, it was a feeling of not enough 'air' to breathe. Gas Monkey thought it was maybe an issue with unpure gas (although it was advertised as 99.98% pure) or the EM regulator not delivering the gas at a high enough rate. I also speculated that being a long term smoker I was maybe CO2 retentive.

 

[vaguebluur]

Yo that sounds deadly af

 

[Sparx]

Yo that sounds deadly af

My plan do you mean?

 

[vaguebluur]

My plan do you mean?

Yh

 

[Sparx]

I hope so, it has to work or it'll be the pysch ward for me

 

[Yavannah]

what made you choose Bromazolam over other RC benzos?

 

[Sparx]

what made you choose Bromazolam over other RC benzos?

Found a vendor in my country so no customs issues.