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fire12362

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Dec 10, 2023
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I've realized that no matter how happy you try to make people and how much humans obtain more luxuries, people will always be people. People will will always be animals. No matter how many desires are fulfilled, there is never enough. There is always hunger for more, not just in the food sense, but in every way. I've grown up around rich folks. You might say "there's a difference between millionaires who got lucky and people who came from nothing and worked hard for it. The people that work hard for it appreciate it." I promise you, many, many of these people I know came from absolute dog kennels and now they are the most unappreciative fucks in the world. Absolute assholes. Obviously I'm not saying this for all people, but you get the drill. No matter how many classes and interventions there are, human beings at the end of the day will always be human beings. Human nature is in us. We are always hungry and willing to fuck over anyone else for the sake of feeding out desires. I'm done with this world. I'm in the US, so I was having trouble to obtain SN, but now, I'm so happy my SN is on the way and I absolutely can't wait to take it.
 
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Sluggish_Slump

Sluggish_Slump

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Mar 29, 2023
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No-Face's story line from Spirited Away encapsulates this really well
 
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SexyIncél

SexyIncél

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Aug 16, 2022
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I promise you, many, many of these people I know came from absolute dog kennels and now they are the most unappreciative fucks in the world. Absolute assholes.
Maybe this is about power relations? Those on top are effectively socially dumber than those on the bottom; they typically can't identify with you. Whereas you can identify with them. There's a couple parts...

Those on bottom get the job of understanding social relations:

"Anyone who has ever worked in a restaurant kitchen, for example, knows that if something goes terribly wrong and an angry boss appears to size things up, he is unlikely to carry out a detailed investigation, or even, to pay serious attention to the workers all scrambling to explain their version of what happened. He is much more likely to tell them all to shut up and arbitrarily impose a story that allows instant judgment: i.e., "you're the new guy, you messed up—if you do it again, you're fired." It's those who do not have the power to hire and fire who are left with the work of figuring out what actually did go wrong so as to make sure it doesn't happen again. The same thing usually happens with ongoing relations: everyone knows that servants tend to know a great deal about their employers' families, but the opposite almost never occurs."

Those on top get compassion fatigue:

"... who first observed the phenomenon we now refer to as "compassion fatigue." Human beings, he proposed, are normally inclined not only to imaginatively identify with their fellows, but as a result, to spontaneously feel one another's joys and sorrows. The poor, however, are so consistently miserable that otherwise sympathetic observers face a tacit choice between being entirely overwhelmed, or simply blotting out their existence. The result is that while those on the bottom of a social ladder spend a great deal of time imagining the perspectives of, and genuinely caring about, those on the top, it almost never happens the other way around."
 
Abyssal

Abyssal

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Nov 26, 2023
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Assholes become great people, in fact those with narcissistic personality disorder and histrionic personality disorder are characterized by many of the characteristics that create fame and wealth. It sucks, but the good guy is at a disadvantage by nature.
 
penguinl0v3s

penguinl0v3s

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Nov 1, 2023
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I've grown up around rich folks. You might say "there's a difference between millionaires who got lucky and people who came from nothing and worked hard for it. The people that work hard for it appreciate it." I promise you, many, many of these people I know came from absolute dog kennels and now they are the most unappreciative fucks in the world. Absolute assholes.
That right there is the problem, that they're rich. It doesn't matter whether they were born rich or acquired wealth, maintaining wealth requires that you ignore all the problems around you. And to ignore them, you have to justify that those people who have less deserve less, which is why you're not giving away any of your wealth to make things better for them. There's also survivorship bias, that those who didn't acquire wealth were lazy, and whatnot.

Human nature is in us. We are always hungry and willing to fuck over anyone else for the sake of feeding out desires.
History and sociology has shown time and time again that this simply isn't true. It's the byproduct of capitalistic culture and individualism. Much of human history, until now, has consisted of either egalitarian or gift-giving societies. The transition from gift economies to market economies is a relatively recent development.
 
Worndown

Worndown

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Mar 21, 2019
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Sadly, the nice people end up in the background. It is the self-important asses that we remember most times. Not how it should be!
 
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Forever Sleep

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May 4, 2022
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Some of it is just manners. I've known rich people who were nice and courteous and others who were rude, arrogant arseholes! Same goes for poorer people. Some of it I think depends on how you were raised. Even in adulthood- someone who was raised to be polite and have manners may actually find it doesn't sit well with them to drop those standards. No matter how rich or famous they get.