Concern: vomiting on N

[PeacefulTonic]

@Butterflyfree N is a CNS depressant. You slip into a coma and stop breathing

Meto directly counters your problem so N could still work if you change your mind about it

 

[Butterflyfree]

The guidance for facilities offering assisted euthanasia is that opiods are often used by ill and/or elderly people and that they slow gasteic transit. It says that it's not ideal as a result because it can slow the time it takes for N absorbtion. I can say for certain as I'm not a medical professional but I don't imagine it would be as much of an issue to somebody with a healthy digestive system that fasts and uses meto. It's worth reading for yourself if you're inclined. If you search KNMG - KNMP euthanasia you shoud find the thread that had the pdf download link. It's a useful read.
I get the impression (from reading the guidelines mentioned) that it largely of concern to thwm because it can prolong the comatose phase and its awkward foe family or friends attending the process. It says something about this, mentioning that it can 3hr+ and that if it gets to two hours it's best to step in. It seems like they really prefer to avoid doing that. Understandably. Probably loads more paperwork and potential legal hoops to jumo through. It's just a bit awkward all round when you imagine the situation with loved ones present.

I have gastric issues, gastroparesis and I take oxycodone for many years now due to heavy pain. That's why I decided N or SN wouldn't be a good option for me. So I'll be riding the Nitro

@Butterflyfree N is a CNS depressant. You slip into a coma and stop breathing

Meto directly counters your problem so N could still work if you change your mind about it

But I take opiates so have built a tolerance? Would that make a difference with N?

 

[PeacefulTonic]

@Butterflyfree N binds to GABA receptors, opiates bind to opioid receptors. It wouldn't make a difference

 

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The guidance for facilities offering assisted euthanasia is that opiods are often used by ill and/or elderly people and that they slow gasteic transit. It says that it's not ideal as a result because it can slow the time it takes for N absorbtion. I can say for certain as I'm not a medical professional but I don't imagine it would be as much of an issue to somebody with a healthy digestive system that fasts and uses meto. It's worth reading for yourself if you're inclined. If you search KNMG - KNMP euthanasia you shoud find the thread that had the pdf download link. It's a useful read.
I get the impression (from reading the guidelines mentioned) that it largely of concern to thwm because it can prolong the comatose phase and its awkward foe family or friends attending the process. It says something about this, mentioning that it can 3hr+ and that if it gets to two hours it's best to step in. It seems like they really prefer to avoid doing that. Understandably. Probably loads more paperwork and potential legal hoops to jumo through. It's just a bit awkward all round when you imagine the situation with loved ones present.

it doesn't really talk about fasting. Also as u mentioned they talk about the possibility of going longer than 2 hours. They they will it you

Also wouldn't being an alcoholic mess with the dose since they do gaba as well?

 

[PeacefulTonic]

interesting

it doesn't really talk about fasting. Also as u mentioned they talk about the possibility of going longer than 2 hours. They they will it you

Also wouldn't being an alcoholic mess with the dose since they do gaba as well?

I believe being an alcoholic can result in you being in an extended coma phase

 

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I believe being an alcoholic can result in you being in an extended coma phase

How long is that? If that's the case alcoholics need to not be found until they die of dehydration in a coma? Is that how it works?

Worry is that if vomit, will survive no matter how long am undisturbed. I'd like to see proof.

When it comes to that final drink, I don't want uncertainty.

Your first post sounded like an echo.

Nothing is for sure with all methods. It just happens to be ur best chance

 

[PeacefulTonic]

I'm sure it varies based on the severity of their alcohol addiction, and everyone will be different. I don't know all that much about alcohol withdrawal and death though.

Perhaps if they were heavily addicted, they would die from alcohol withdrawal symptoms while in the coma. Or just cease to breath like everyone else

 

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I'm sure it varies based on the severity of their alcohol addiction, and everyone will be different. I don't know all that much about alcohol withdrawal and death though.

Perhaps if they were heavily addicted, they would die from alcohol withdrawal symptoms while in the coma. Or just cease to breath like everyone else

U can die of alcohol withdrawal?? Also I would assume if u have respiratory problems like copd u would ctb faster right?

 

[PeacefulTonic]

U can die of alcohol withdrawal?? Also I would assume if u have respiratory problems like copd u would ctb faster right?

Yeah some people are heavily addicted to the point where they could die if they stop drinking cold turkey.

And yes I think it's safe to assume having a problem like COPD would make you ctb quicker

 

[PerpetualPain]

@Butterflyfree N binds to GABA receptors, opiates bind to opioid receptors. It wouldn't make a difference

My GABA receptors are all messed up due to my disease which has caused GABA dysfunction. I cannot get drunk from alcohol and benzos do not work for me (both act on GABA). Do you know if this would affect N's effectiveness?

 

[PeacefulTonic]

My GABA receptors are all messed up due to my disease which has caused GABA dysfunction. I cannot get drunk from alcohol and benzos do not work for me (both act on GABA). Do you know if this would affect N's effectiveness?

That sounds rough. N might not be the method for you if that's the case. I could be wrong. I think @Dystopia can answer this better than I can

 

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Yeah some people are heavily addicted to the point where they could die if they stop drinking cold turkey.

And yes I think it's safe to assume having a problem like COPD would make you ctb quicker

Man I wonder at what point are people alcoholic. I have a tolerance but I don't need to drink. But then again maybe it's cause I'm a big boy

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Man I wonder at what point are people alcoholic. I have a tolerance but I don't need to drink. But then again maybe it's cause I'm a big boy

Probably someone who drinks a good amount of volume daily. You should be good in regards to N though

 

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So again with these prolonged comas, does it mean u die when u don't get found and dehydrated and die? Or will u die of respiratory arrest eventually? Does your body still function in a coma?

 

[PeacefulTonic]

So again with these prolonged comas, does it mean u die when u don't get found and dehydrated and die? Or will u die of respiratory arrest eventually? Does your body still function in a coma?

I believe you just die of respiratory arrest eventually. In a coma, your body functions until then

 

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I believe you just die of respiratory arrest eventually. In a coma, your body functions until then

Interesting. Thanks for answering all these questions. So many what if's.

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Interesting. Thanks for answering all these questions. So many what if's.

No problem. I don't think you should worry too much. I know I don't. I just have to get past the taste and SI

 

[PassingThrough]

I remember reading an article about someone in the US who was approved for assisted suicide and did it by drinking some drug (N, I assume). But he had gastrointestinal cancer and this interfered with the absorption of the drug; It took him over 20 hours to die.

 

[healthrecovery]

How many bottles will do is one enough...i mean the more you drink the higher chances of vomiting

 

[Butterflyfree]

U can die of alcohol withdrawal?? Also I would assume if u have respiratory problems like copd u would ctb faster right?

If you have sleep apnea would that cause you to go even faster?

I remember reading an article about someone in the US who was approved for assisted suicide and did it by drinking some drug (N, I assume). But he had gastrointestinal cancer and this interfered with the absorption of the drug; It took him over 20 hours to die.

Yes, I've read of a few cases of this happening in Switzerland.

 

[PerpetualPain]

That sounds rough. N might not be the method for you if that's the case. I could be wrong. I think @Dystopia can answer this better than I can

Really need clarification on N's method of action. Wouldn't want this to fail and become even more messed up.

 

[Tamara Tami]

My GABA receptors are all messed up due to my disease which has caused GABA dysfunction. I cannot get drunk from alcohol and benzos do not work for me (both act on GABA). Do you know if this would affect N's effectiveness?

@Dystopia