changing minds in relation to tone

[Life_and_Death]

the specifics dont really matter it goes for anything really, but i was reading these video comments on fb and wow.

for context in this situation (plus to use as an example), it was a video on how to handle babies sleeping. "dont put anything in the crib" (this isnt a post on whether or not we're agreeing or disagreeing but the tone it's being present) and the video itself offered zero education. no reason why, just statistics "oh death is lower". i cant speak for other people but i personally like ALL the facts so i can make my own decisions, not just "dont do it".

so theres the way its presented or lack there of. sorry if an independent human doesnt like being a sheep that blindly follows. you cant just say "oh because" and expect people to listen lol.

then we get to the comments themselves. and there was a discussion about "why this doesnt work for my child". "oh but its dangerous" and just a general dogpile (you know how it goes, ive seen it here)
and someone else commented (paraphrasing) "you talk about us (the older generation) being rude but look at yourselves" and i dont disagree. i would be a lot more willing to change my mind if your reaction to my search for knowledge (or general confusion) wasnt met with random unnecessary bs. yeah, dogpile someone where your tone triggered their brain to go into defense mode. now someone that had the chance of changing their mind AND AGREEING WITH YOU probably is just going to argue with you now, because thats what you triggered them to do.

sometimes humans are their own worse enemy and then they wonder why theres misanthropists. hint: look in the mirror
its even sadder/worse when they defend why hurtful, unproductive habits are "ok". yep...and thats why the human race is going to fail....... (id say "1 of.." but doesnt that sum up most/all of them??)

 

[timf]

If you have an expectation that people will be rational or even civil, you will frequently be disappointed. There was a researcher after WWII who wanted to find out how the people in Nazi Germany could have tolerated the holocaust. He discovered that 85% of people would apply increasing electric current to people they thought the were punishing up to the point of death because they were told to do so by an authority figure.

In a way the comment section of Internet sites allows people to engage is "safe" verbal combat. It is like an arena. Most people do not appreciate that this sort of combat can have negative effects. They tend to bring into their real life increased tendencies to vent their emotional frustrations with others.

People like the simple clarity of the thrust of a "saber". Few are interested in the boring details that define an actual situation. If you immerse yourself in a world where people jab each other instead of considering the broader dimensions of an issue, it will have a negative effect on you.

While it can seem that the whole world is engaged in this foolishness, there are others who take different paths.

 

[Life_and_Death]

If you have an expectation that people will be rational or even civil, you will frequently be disappointed.

no expectation, just pointing out 1 way people work against themselves.
if i had any expectation of people being civil there wouldnt be much point in being a misanthropist lol