I can't seem to find a CO meter that will do ten thousand ppm for less than 500 pounds uk and while money shouldn't be an option at this stage, i'm not sure i really need one anyway. From what i can gather from reading about successful efforts or accidents, quite small amounts were involved, a kilo or less judging from photos at the scene and descriptions.
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bbq1
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I couldn't justify that amount that's why I got the little detector from argos which I returned after tests.
All those japanese and taiwanese never used meters, they just got on with it. I think a starting charcoal weight of 750g is ideal for a car. After it's burned in the chimney for 40 mins that weight will be down to 550g+ which is lots for a space that is only 3 to 4m3.
An australian test I read said 629g of briquettes of 85% carbon purity can produce 10,000ppm in a 100m3 space.
PeakyBlinder
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- Sep 6, 2018
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So can someone please tell me why does everyone take the hassle of co poisoning with charcoal?
Why not use the formic and sulfuric acid method or another co chem reaction? With that it's just a matter of seconds. Is it because the chemicals are hard to come by?
Why not use the formic and sulfuric acid method or another co chem reaction? With that it's just a matter of seconds. Is it because the chemicals are hard to come by?
yes and idek how to get those things. no one will suspect me buying charcoal from the store
weedoge
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- Jul 12, 2018
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Yes and also for me I didn't want people asking me questions, buying charcoal is a bit easier to get away with. Dunno the chemical thing seems more daunting and like there are less cases of it.
I'd always prefer the acids since that way is easier and more effective, but I'd have to go to a drug store to buy specifically those two, the person selling them might know they can be used for suicide, and I don't know the price but they for sure are more expensive, on the other side charcoal can be bought pretty much everywhere, it's cheap and the process is just to make it burn for 40min to an hour, it's not that big of a deal
I like what I see. I know absolutely nothing about that and would love to learn more. My plan was to use 2 small grills and go into the bathroom of my house. And as a double treat, take many 30mg Roxie's along with 2-3 half pints of Jameson . Then pop s few Valium and klonapins and go to sleep. I don't want any mistakes which is why I'm using 2 methods for myself. . Any ideas ?
I want to go by gassing in garage but maybe take a few drugs to knock me out first
TehArgentum
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- Sep 3, 2018
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Another successful attempt:
http://china.org.cn/china/2014-12/01/content_34196661.htm
http://china.org.cn/china/2014-12/01/content_34196661.htm
If I have the method and know how, I'd do it in a second. I have the other part of the double. Just don't have the grills. But I have a decent plan of action. I plan on using the second story bathroom the bathroom door will be barricaded very well. The will be a letter posted on the door to get please do not try to come through this entrance, I'm the garage is a ladder and the window will be unlocked.
Is there a place where I can find a list of materials and instructions? I can start researching how to obtain the "hard to get"parts of the plan. I would prefer this over the several hour prep for the charcoal. With the disease I have it might be easier for me to obtain certain items.
The coals need to be white and hot. If it's smoking and still black then it needs more time to mature. About 1 1/2 hours for a grill that holds 7-10 pounds of charcoal
Can someone tell me ho3 to light charcoal without lighter fluid. They say yiu shouldnt use lighter fluid for this method
bbq1
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bbq1
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You'll only need 7 to 10lbs if your enclosed space is a basketball court.
2lbs is plenty for any car, van, tent, average bathroom.
What a world.Hi bro! same name! :
Like all irrational people, i try to take everything into account and usually fail.
Tent versus car. Tents allow the heat from burning coals to dissipate more rapidly than cars, i imagine. On the other hand, a car is more easily sealed, ie no issues with the fabric being permeable. My vehicle is beaten up from various accidents and so i would tape up all the door joints except the entry one, as well as the air vents even though they might be closed.
I posted on another thread i started about my experiment and how hot the car got after i put inside a kilo of coals that had been burning for the required time.. grey, no smoke. So, the secret seems to be to keep the heat down and the CO high.
Tent versus car. Tents allow the heat from burning coals to dissipate more rapidly than cars, i imagine. On the other hand, a car is more easily sealed, ie no issues with the fabric being permeable. My vehicle is beaten up from various accidents and so i would tape up all the door joints except the entry one, as well as the air vents even though they might be closed.
I posted on another thread i started about my experiment and how hot the car got after i put inside a kilo of coals that had been burning for the required time.. grey, no smoke. So, the secret seems to be to keep the heat down and the CO high.
In the light of so many differing points of view/discussions about this method i am beginning to consider others that might be less ideally pleasant but more certain. I have all the necessary equipment in the car but i wonder nevetheless. At 4am i took a trip out to the woods last night and downed some morphine and diazepam, burned the coals beforehand and clambered in. Normally that shit would knock me out for 12 hours but i woke up after about 4 feeling like crap in a sauna and had to get out.
One is the final exit idea of an elasticated plastic bag and enough sleeping pills to knock out a horse, or the helium method. Or suspension hanging in said forest with similar drugs.
One is the final exit idea of an elasticated plastic bag and enough sleeping pills to knock out a horse, or the helium method. Or suspension hanging in said forest with similar drugs.
charcoal isnt the best method of producing CO
I'm beginning to get that impression, too many random variables and taking too long unless you get a 10000pm meter, enabling some fucker to wander in and mess it up no matter how remote your location. it might be better for someone who has their own space but i don't and it's typical of my luck to find some amourous couple in the vicinity also looking for solitude over the 4 or 5 hours at say 6000ppm. I didn't mention in the previous post that that i made a drug induced crash while leaving the site and had to find a framer with a tractor to drag me out of a ditch, you have to laugh.
as bbq said i'm guilty of overthinking but that's kind of why i'm here to escape from a liftime of that shit.
I imagine you're suggesting a generator?
as bbq said i'm guilty of overthinking but that's kind of why i'm here to escape from a liftime of that shit.
I imagine you're suggesting a generator?
Tried the generator. Definitely effective but BURNS your fucking eyes like you wouldn't believe in a very small place like a car. In something larger like a garage it's more manageable, but will take more time. I'm leaning towards Sodium Nitrite at this point. Seems perfect; it's legal, cheap and quick.
http://swifletresearch.blogspot.com/2011/01/death-by-sodium-nitrite.html
You may be right but this report didn't sound so quick and painless, jd
You may be right but this report didn't sound so quick and painless, jd
all cars in the usa and i'm not sure on the year in other countries starting in 1975 have catalytic converters which remove 98 or 99 % of the carbon monoxide you would have to use a car before catalytic converters hope this helps
and a note for Jameson above. I'd recommend drinking less alcohol. The urge to pee in the night might overwhelm the drug induced desire to sleep with the meds you're considering. Myself i'm sticking to a half bottle of vodka, which is also apparently the alcohol least likely to react with medications.
I meant to say, react with them in a way that causes your body to react negatively, as opposed too reacting in a way that helps them take effect.
Dani Paradox
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- Aug 17, 2018
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I have decided to go with CO. Once I get another $25 I am buying a 13 lb bag of charcoal, a chimney starter and a bottle, and I am gassing myself in the woods. I have a tent, but I am not sure if it is too small. It is a two person tent, and ideally the perfect size to reach a high amount of CO quickly. How can I be sure that it's not TOO small, though? I don't know how hot the chimney starter will be, but I will be right next to it. And how can I be sure the heat will not eventually burn a hole in the tent? Can anyone help, please?
Dani Paradox
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- Aug 17, 2018
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LOL how do you figure?
Typical advice seems to be to heat the coals in your charcoal burner outside until the whole lot is grey or glowing and not smoking, it should contain about a kilo which seems to be the recommended amount for a small tent or vehicle. if the bbq is quite small and has legs that don't touch the ground and aren't too hot then bring it inside once its not giving off enough heat to make it too hot in the tent. Use you judgement to see if it poses a risk to either the floor or the roof. Otherwise put the coals in a steel bucket and put on a heat resistant surface like a water filled metal plate. I can't give advice on what tent to use. Take medication and vodka to last for at least 6 hours, mkae sure it's not getting too hot in there and put on some music and zip up. Advice seems to be to lie with your head at the far end of the tent away from the door.The advice is not to be disturbed for at least 7 or 8 hours. This is what i have gleaned from posts in here and is general advice, not necessarily for you to use personally, right?
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