Method Carbon monoxide megathread

[RoloTomasi]

Now, my greatest fear in attempting this method is waking up brain damaged because there is not enough CO produced and retained. I still don't know which charcoal I should use: Kingsford Original briquettes, https://www.kingsford.com/products/original-charcoal/
Or I'll just buy unbranded chunks of lumpwood charcoal from a market. I've read of several who attempted using kings briquettes and failed, but there is one guy who did and isn't active here anymore. Can't tell if something else was wrong or it's the briqs producing insufficient CO. I don't have a CO meter, so I'll have to risk it without testing.

 

[Jon_Doe]

Now, my greatest fear in attempting this method is waking up brain damaged because there is not enough CO produced and retained. I still don't know which charcoal I should use: Kingsford Original briquettes, https://www.kingsford.com/products/original-charcoal/
Or I'll just buy unbranded chunks of lumpwood charcoal from a market. I've read of several who attempted using kings briquettes and failed, but there is one guy who did and isn't active here anymore. Can't tell if something else was wrong or it's the briqs producing insufficient CO. I don't have a CO meter, so I'll have to risk it without testing.

Could try a portable generator. Was looking at them the the other day. They have warnings all over the box saying "Carbon monoxide will kill you in minutes. Not for indoor use."

 

[anna]

Now, my greatest fear in attempting this method is waking up brain damaged because there is not enough CO produced and retained. I still don't know which charcoal I should use: Kingsford Original briquettes, https://www.kingsford.com/products/original-charcoal/
Or I'll just buy unbranded chunks of lumpwood charcoal from a market. I've read of several who attempted using kings briquettes and failed, but there is one guy who did and isn't active here anymore. Can't tell if something else was wrong or it's the briqs producing insufficient CO. I don't have a CO meter, so I'll have to risk it without testing.

I remember that in another forum I recommend the charcoal, better than the wood and the CO meter (but they are quite expensive)
They also recommended a specific brand of charcoal (I think it's sold in the United States)

 

[Lowri]

This is my plan C. Can anybody who is good with numbers make a spreadsheet where I can plug in the m³ size of the room and the carbon content of the briquette's and it'll spit out the amount of briquettes (in grams) needed?

Maybe I should just make a thread for this.

 

[Over n' Out]

Here's some info

https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2012...nduced-death-and-toxicity-charcoal-briquettes

 

[RoloTomasi]

Could try a portable generator. Was looking at them the the other day. They have warnings all over the box saying "Carbon monoxide will kill you in minutes. Not for indoor use."

Haha says exactly what we need, I don't think I can easily get one around here though.

 

[RoloTomasi]

This is my plan C. Can anybody who is good with numbers make a spreadsheet where I can plug in the m³ size of the room and the carbon content of the briquette's and it'll spit out the amount of briquettes (in grams) needed?

Maybe I should just make a thread for this.

1.5-2 kg should be enough in small spaces

 

[RoloTomasi]

I remember that in another forum I recommend the charcoal, better than the wood and the CO meter (but they are quite expensive)
They also recommended a specific brand of charcoal (I think it's sold in the United States)

In the first post of an 8ch thread, royal oak briquettes is recommended. Some also tested kingsford. But some over there and around here failed with kingsford. Yeah, the CO meter is probably more expensive than all the other stuff needed combined

 

[RoloTomasi]

Here's some info

https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2012...nduced-death-and-toxicity-charcoal-briquettes

Thanks, 629g of briquettes did this guy in, I'll probably just light up briqs in excess to make sure there'll be enough

 

[Lowri]

Here's some info

https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2012...nduced-death-and-toxicity-charcoal-briquettes

1% of CO in 1 m³ is enough to kill you? Am I reading that right. I already have the whole document btw.

Thanks, 629g of briquettes did this guy in, I'll probably just light up briqs in excess to make sure there'll be enough

Did you read what happened to the other guy?

The other person had inhaled sufficient CO to cause loss of consciousness. Owing to the position in which this person had collapsed, the prolonged period of unconsciousness led to compression of the right arm with secondary ischaemia, compartment syndrome and rhabdomyolysis in the right arm. A below-elbow amputation was performed 9 days after the incident, and subsequent recovery included some residual hypoxic sequelae.

 

[RoloTomasi]

1% of CO in 1 m³ is enough to kill you? Am I reading that right. I already have the whole document btw.

Did you read what happened to the other guy?

Just read about the other guy, not cool...

 

[Lowri]

Just read about the other guy, not cool...

Also that number 629g isn't related to the story. Thats the amount of briquette you need to get to 10.000 PPM and the room is 100 m³

 

[RoloTomasi]

Also that number 629g isn't related to the story. Thats the amount of briquette you need to get to 10.000 PPM and the room is 100 m³

Oh, indeed 629g sounds too few. 1kg is usually the minimum in the tests done around other forums, there is one who did 2kg I think

 

[Over n' Out]

100m3 is way too big a room to use. A small car's interior volume is about 3m3,.
The other guys injury can be ignored as they wern't trying to die.

 

[RoloTomasi]

100m3 is way too big a room to use. A small car's interior volume is about 3m3,.
The other guys injury can be ignored as they wern't trying to die.

Yeah, reminds me of another incident but inside a tent, unwittingly did the method. One died, other survived with CO poisoning and was treated

 

[RoloTomasi]

https://japantoday.com/category/nat...-kawata-found-dead-in-car-in-apparent-suicide

This celebrity made it look so easy, and did it with only 2 briquettes, I suspect these are the long and thick cylinder ones though.

 

[RoloTomasi]

Some other successful attempts:

 

[Jon_Doe]

Haha says exactly what we need, I don't think I can easily get one around here though.

Why not? They sell them at any big home department store. Can order online as well. About $200 - $300. Get a 4 cycle engine one. They'll run for hours on a full tank and just pump out CO and other unhealthy gases.

 

[Jon_Doe]

So using car is not a good way?

Unless it's REALLY old or the anti pollution equipment is removed. Then run it in closed garage or run a hose from tail pipe into cracked window.

 

[Life sucks]

Unless it's REALLY old or the anti pollution equipment is removed. Then run it in closed garage or run a hose from tail pipe into cracked window.

I was meaning to use the inside of the car as a closed space

 

[Jon_Doe]

I was meaning to use the inside of the car as a closed space

Oh yeah, that's one of my 2 plans too. Close all windows, door vents and good to go.

 

[Ssname]

I plan on using the inside of a small rental car (so mine doesn't lose value if my family sell it)

 

[ThereIsNoHope]

Is it viable to light coal in a car?

 

[bbq1]

Is it viable to light coal in a car?

A fool would.

 

[RoloTomasi]

Is it viable to light coal in a car?

You light them up outside first and then you bring them in after the smoke and flames are gone.

 

[ThereIsNoHope]

A fool would.

Why "A fool would"?

 

[RoloTomasi]

Why "A fool would"?

As I said in my previous post, light them up outside first. Bring them inside the car after the smoke has gone out, the charcoal should be ashy gray/white in appearance.

 

[EternalSanction]

Lighting the coals inside the car will hinder the burning process as oxygen supply is limited. That's why you should light them outside and wait for them to turn to ember.

 

[Life sucks]

But what about if we put the coal after turning to ember and putting it in the car? If the door get opened, the CO will go out

 

[RoloTomasi]

https://www.tokyoreporter.com/crime...in-aichi-leads-police-to-second-body-in-gifu/

Yet another charcoal burning ctb.