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Lettam

Lettam

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Nobody needs to post a picture of N, on here. In fact, iirc only two people have done it in the past: P and T. Couple this with everything covered in the previous thread.

Even without this data re timestamps, how much of a big red neon light do you need? We could argue in favour of this user for every piece of evidence of dubious conduct, but when it gets to the point where there are five or six pieces of stark evidence, it's pretty clear cut imo.

In regards to "Nobody needs to post a picture of N", nobody needs to post a picture of their Sodium Nitrite or their Antiemetic (both of which, like N, can be difficult to obtain) but they do. Considering the number of posts that get brigaded and called out on here, I'd almost argue we need to post pictures of what we're using to prevent our 'goodbye threads' from turning into a trial on whether or not we're a fraud.

I don't need a "big red neon light", I've called the OP out on the previous thread. My post was to question whether or not the app used to edit the photo could have also edited the metadata. I was curious, not every question should be interpreted as me denying he's a fraud.
 
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JustAboutDone

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No picture of the pharmacy or vets no pictures of him in Mexico though he's been there all week - browsing SS :-)
 
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JustAboutDone

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I don't need a "big red neon light", I've called the OP out on the previous thread.

You did - when hardly anyone else would but you spotted it didn't add up
 
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Chinaski

Chinaski

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In regards to "Nobody needs to post a picture of N", nobody needs to post a picture of their Sodium Nitrite or their Antiemetic (both of which, like N, can be difficult to obtain) but they do. Considering the number of posts that get brigaded and called out on here, I'd almost argue we need to post pictures of what we're using to prevent our 'goodbye threads' from turning into a trial on whether or not we're a fraud.

Very, very few goodbye threads are turned into a "trial" without there being some reason to suspect dubious activity which is usually within the content of that user's postings.

Posting a random photo of N isn't going to help in that scenario; one N scammer did just that before faking a liveblogged passing. I can post a picture of a noose, it doesn't evidence an immediate death by hanging, in fact it evidences nothing more than the fact that l have somehow acquired a picture of a noose.
 
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JustAboutDone

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@Johnnythefox have you been graffiti on @Vaughn profile page
 
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JustAboutDone

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It's interesting that a large number of users logged off at the same time - literally disappeared like mayflies in the night. Gone to have a chat I think
 
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JustAboutDone

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What are you going on about?

My question was a theory about whether or not the metadata could change due to an app, clearly an app can change this as there is an app dedicated to changing metadata.

If I was in doubt, I would say - "Guys, there's a chance he's not lying because an App CAN change metadata and he did use an app to edit the photo".

Just like I posted on the thread yesterday, I think this guy is full of shit but I just had a question about a possibility and because I dare question the status quo, I'm being questioned.

Nooooo!!! I'm talking about yesterday's thread! That you were the only other one who spotted it was suss!!
 
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ShadowOfTheDay

ShadowOfTheDay

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It still doesn't explain the Thailand time stamp.
If it was purchased with cryptocurrancy, wouldn't that be common fare? Granted, I don't know why he would bother to use bitcoin if he was there in person.
 
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@Chinaski I saw what you posted before you deleted it... It's rich that you tell me I need to "Chill out FFS" when you're literally chomping at the bit to call anyone out the second you can.
 
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Fuck off with that piety, seriously. I presented very clear evidence of his dubiety
No you didn't, you said he did some things without presenting proof. Johnny posted proof in this thread, which really should've been on the first page. You gave some words and it was your word against V-guy, a "he said, she said". No one from a third party perspective is going to consider that valid evidence, especially when V-guy's posts on here told a totally different story than what people were saying. It's not unusual that someone could go to Mexico looking for N. A lot of us don't care about delving into random individual users, and the drama here is constant. From my perspective, I just saw some poor random user getting bullied for no apparent reason. It appears I was far from alone in seeing that. And having been on the receiving end of rumors, bullying, and bizarre false accusations just about everywhere I go, I won't stand for watching it happen to someone else. If people stuck to showing hard evidence then innocent people wouldn't get bullied, V-guy wouldn't have had anyone defending him, and none of this drama would've happened.

as per fucking usual, was painted as some kind of bullying piece of shit for doing so by the usual gullible idiots on here.
Perhaps there might be a reason why you've gotten that but not others. When this is an "as per fucking usual" kind of thing it might be a good idea to rethink how you're dealing with these kinds of things. Everyone has come around because solid, irrefutable facts were presented.

If you feel embarrassed about propelling this obvious chancer now it's fucking understandable, you should be, but don't be taking a pop at those who aren't as stupid for "not being straight forward on the facts", it was all there, it was clearly presented, you just made the wrong call.
Asking for proof and not jumping in on trolling is "propelling this character" now? How was anything I did even "propelling" him lmao? Just because people didn't take your word for it doesn't mean taking V-guy's word for it. It's called neutrality, and some of us are genuinely sick of all the drama here. I don't care about "sides", this happens every day and it's ridiculous.
 
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JustAboutDone

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@Minudah can you clarify please who exactly went to Mexico?
 
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No you didn't, you said he did some things without presenting proof. Johnny posted proof in this thread, which really should've been on the first page. You gave some words and it was your word against V-guy, a "he said, she said". No one from a third party perspective is going to consider that valid evidence, especially when V-guy's posts on here told a totally different story than what people were saying. It's not unusual that someone could go to Mexico looking for N. A lot of us don't care about delving into random individual users, and the drama here is constant. From my perspective, I just saw some poor random user getting bullied for no apparent reason. It appears I was far from alone in seeing that. And having been on the receiving end of rumors, bullying, and bizarre false accusations just about everywhere I go, I don't stand for watching it happen to someone else. If people stuck to showing hard evidence then innocent people wouldn't get bullied, V-guy wouldn't have had anyone defending him, and none of this drama would've happened.


Perhaps there might be a reason why you've gotten that but not others. When this is an "as per fucking usual" kind of thing it might be a good idea to rethink how you're dealing with these kinds of things. Everyone has come around because solid irrefutable facts were presented.


Asking for proof and not jumping in on trolling is "propelling this character" now? How was anything I did even "propelling" him lmao? Just because people didn't take your word for it doesn't mean taking V-guy's word for it. It's called neutrality, and some of us are genuinely sick of all the drama here. I don't care about "sides", this happens every day and it's ridiculous.
Amen.--vaughn incognito
 
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No you didn't, you said he did some things without presenting proof. Johnny posted proof in this thread, which really should've been on the first page. You gave some words and it was your word against V-guy, a "he said, she said". No one from a third party perspective is going to consider that valid evidence, especially when V-guy's posts on here told a totally different story than what people were saying. It's not unusual that someone could go to Mexico looking for N. A lot of us don't care about delving into random individual users, and the drama here is constant. From my perspective, I just saw some poor random user getting bullied for no apparent reason. It appears I was far from alone in seeing that. And having been on the receiving end of rumors, bullying, and bizarre false accusations just about everywhere I go, I don't stand for watching it happen to someone else. If people stuck to showing hard evidence then innocent people wouldn't get bullied, V-guy wouldn't have had anyone defending him, and none of this drama would've happened.


Perhaps there might be a reason why you've gotten that but not others. When this is an "as per fucking usual" kind of thing it might be a good idea to rethink how you're dealing with these kinds of things. Everyone has come around because solid irrefutable facts were presented.


Asking for proof and not jumping in on trolling is "propelling this character" now? How was anything I did even "propelling" him lmao? Just because people didn't take your word for it doesn't mean taking V-guy's word for it. It's called neutrality, and some of us are genuinely sick of all the drama here. I don't care about "sides", this happens every day and it's ridiculous.

Well said.
 
Lettam

Lettam

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I'm speechless that there's almost a civil war of sort between users on a suicide forum. The level of toxicity not only in this thread but others are sick. I imagined this would be a place where one could go for information on exiting the world and the best ways to do it. Now here we all are accusing each other of being other users because we have a difference of opinion.

There have been more than enough threads where someone has fucking died and people go on for pages arguing whether or not the person was a fraud.


Not what I expected when I signed up here.

edit: to all of you who do this, stay the fuck out of my thread when I decide to CTB.
 
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I'm speechless that there's almost a civil war of sort between users on a suicide forum. The level of toxicity not only in this thread but others are sick. I imagined this would be a place where one could go for information on exiting the world and the best ways to do it. Now here we all are accusing each other of being other users because we have a difference of opinion.

There have been more than enough threads where someone has fucking died and people go on for pages arguing whether or not the person was a fraud.


Not what I expected when I signed up here.

edit: to all of you who do this, stay the fuck out of my thread when I decide to do CTB.
So what are you saying? It's bad we did this? You'd rather not challenge or scrutinise? @Vaughn was a dangerous man and if he had gone unchecked he may have done serious damage to many people's lives.
 
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JustAboutDone

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Can we not just light a candle?
 
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Minudah

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I'm speechless that there's almost a civil war of sort between users on a suicide forum. The level of toxicity not only in this thread but others are sick. I imagined this would be a place where one could go for information on exiting the world and the best ways to do it. Now here we all are accusing each other of being other users because we have a difference of opinion.

There have been more than enough threads where someone has fucking died and people go on for pages arguing whether or not the person was a fraud.


Not what I expected when I signed up here.
To be fair, ASH and ASM (Alt Suicide Holiday/Methods) back in the day were a lot worse. I really hope this forum doesn't turn into that. Hurt people are going to lash out, but you'd think people would be nicer when they know they're dealing with others who are so hurt that they're suicidal.
 
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Chinaski

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Well said.

Well said, says the guy doing the grovelling apology a few posts earlier. Embarrassing.

No you didn't, you said he did some things without presenting proof. Johnny posted proof in this thread, which really should've been on the first page. You gave some words and it was your word against V-guy, a "he said, she said". No one from a third party perspective is going to consider that valid evidence, especially when V-guy's posts on here told a totally different story than what people were saying. It's not unusual that someone could go to Mexico looking for N. A lot of us don't care about delving into random individual users, and the drama here is constant. From my perspective, I just saw some poor random user getting bullied for no apparent reason. It appears I was far from alone in seeing that. And having been on the receiving end of rumors, bullying, and bizarre false accusations just about everywhere I go, I don't stand for watching it happen to someone else. If people stuck to showing hard evidence then innocent people wouldn't get bullied, V-guy wouldn't have had anyone defending him, and none of this drama would've happened.


Perhaps there might be a reason why you've gotten that but not others. When this is an "as per fucking usual" kind of thing it might be a good idea to rethink how you're dealing with these kinds of things. Everyone has come around because solid irrefutable facts were presented.


Asking for proof and not jumping in on trolling is "propelling this character" now? How was anything I did even "propelling" him lmao? Just because people didn't take your word for it doesn't mean taking V-guy's word for it. It's called neutrality, and some of us are genuinely sick of all the drama here. I don't care about "sides", this happens every day and it's ridiculous.

You hate the "drama" so much (apart from the DMSO test-piloting where a fly landed in your mix, nothing dramatic there, no sirree), yet as per seem to afford those bullshitters who bring the drama a free pass, and push the reasons for your gullibility onto the users who aren't so fucking stupid and actively challenge those who are genuinely polluting your safe haven. That's shitty, as is the whole "Chinaski was right but only presented us with four pieces of evidence of suspicious interacting, he is therefore Still A Bully" routine. You're embarrassed, as you should be, but that's all on you.
 
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Lettam

Lettam

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So what are you saying? It's bad we did this? You'd rather not challenge or scrutinise? @Vaughn was a dangerous man and if he had gone unchecked he may have done serious damage to many people's lives.

How many times do I have to repeat myself? I AM NOT DEFENDING THIS GUY.

I am referring to threads like this: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...i-plan-on-drinking-it-in-10-20-minutes.12329/ where someone died and jokes where being made on top of their death being heavily questioned.
 
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So what are you saying? It's bad we did this? You'd rather not challenge or scrutinise? @Vaughn was a dangerous man and if he had gone unchecked he may have done serious damage to many people's lives.
All anyone is saying that this could have been handled more effectively, so people would've understood why he was bad news rather than seeing someone get attacked and jump to his defense. Leaving it alone would've been bad too, but this wasn't the only way to avoid leaving it alone.
 
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@Chinaski I saw what you posted before you deleted it... It's rich that you tell me I need to "Chill out FFS" when you're literally chomping at the bit to call anyone out the second you can.

I deleted it because l saw you retracted your original pass-agg snark, that doesn't mean l don't still think you're a flake.
 
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Lettam

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I deleted it because l saw you retracted your original pass-agg snark, that doesn't mean l don't still think you're a flake.

Couldn't give a shit if you think I'm a flake mate.
 
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ShadowOfTheDay

ShadowOfTheDay

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Feb 14, 2019
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View attachment 8474 I'm no mathematician, but this could have been settled after his first two posts. So he claims he got three bottles for $50!
And then presents a receipt totalling $960
which is $320 x 3. Are there any mathematicians on here who can help me with this as I am struggling to work it out..
View attachment 8473
Well, as stated in the picture, 960 is a numerical value corresponding to pesos, the translation into US currency would be roughly 50 US dollars.
 
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brighter

brighter

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Jan 22, 2019
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Can we not just light a candle?

Your wish is my command, my lady :)

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/attachments/kind-jpg.8282/

Can we all do a minute's silence to commemorate this man's bravery, in the face of SUCH hard times?
 
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