Help Best anti emetic regimen

[angie]

My own choice will be 60mg of meto 45 minutes before.
As others have stated it's wise to do a dry run to test your reaction beforehand.

I am not a fan of pre loading Antiemetics buts that's just my own opinion.

im not fancying a test run in case i have a reaction .but if its approx 40 mins before you may have a reaction to anti emetics .then a reaction may not matter at that point if you take N 45mins after anti emetics ?? what do you reckon ?.

 

[Deleted member 4993]

You should do a test run with 1 tablet the chances of it not being ok are very slim it will also alleviate your anxiety.

 

[Arak]

@angie ,

Doesn't Dignitas suggest 30 mg meto ? I have some issues with meto myself, and was more or less planning on a lower dose of meto but adding 20 or 30 mg domperidone.

You could try 5 mg meto. It definitely caused me some issues but nothing I couldn't handle.

Oh, I had absolutely no issues with the taste of N (syringe!, see PPEH) ! But that's me ...

 

[angie]

@angie ,

Doesn't Dignitas suggest 30 mg meto ? I have some issues with meto myself, and was more or less planning on a lower dose of meto but adding 20 or 30 mg domperidone.

You could try 5 mg meto. It definitely caused me some issues but nothing I couldn't handle.

Oh, I had absolutely no issues with the taste of N (syringe!, see PPEH) ! But that's me ...

dignitas

think its 30mg at dignitas because its in liquid form it must be stronger in liquid form i assume

 

[Arak]

I know that some people have a reaction to meto. but the really serious reactions likely occur almost exclusively at high doses.

 

[Morpheus]

According to the OP's link (thank you, @Chinaski, 2-3 TBS of Pepto Bizmol is recommended before taking N. What are your thoughts on this? I would wait 20 minutes, not right before.
I'd appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you in advance.

 

[Prénom Surnom]

This is interesting because I was also wondering about Pepto. Can anyone tell me the reason for fasting? Is it to make your body absorb the chemicals faster? Does it only need to be done with certain methods? I will be using the Chloroquine cocktail, but I have stomach problems (from my disease), so fasting is problematic for me.

 

[Morpheus]

@Prénom Surnom I wish I knew.

 

[SadShitSack]

Question - I only have access to Zofran - but a lot of it. Will just Zofran work?

 

[locusdelicti]

Question - I only have access to Zofran - but a lot of it. Will just Zofran work?

Same. Zofran is what I have.

 

[Deleted member 4993]

Question - I only have access to Zofran - but a lot of it. Will just Zofran work?

The opening post gives a link to Antiemetic regimes

 

[futur]

Same. Zofran is what I have.

honestly i don't know if Zofran worse or better than MCP. I just found articles, where was stated that it can be as effective MCP but a bit more pricey.

You can also add Dimenhydrinate, it is an antihistamine and it should be OTC in most countries.

Personally i will use Ondansetron with MCP (Chloroquine method). Dunno if it is better but probably will not be worse than MCP alone.

 

[locusdelicti]

Just ordered some Cipro generic Meto. Mixing with the Zofran should do the trick, along with the honey/chocolate.

 

[futur]

Just ordered some Cipro generic Meto. Mixing with the Zofran should do the trick, along with the honey/chocolate.

is honey really helpful? I found some time ago some article about woman, that mixed tablets with apple mousse. Perhaps it has the same effect

 

[locusdelicti]

is honey really helpful? I found some time ago some article about woman, that mixed tablets with apple mousse. Perhaps it has the same effect

Obviously I have no anecdotal evidence, but I can imagine by the viscosity of honey, it does a pretty good job of coating the mouth and tongue. Following with a shot of chocolate Bailey's or something would probably do the trick.

 

[SadShitSack]

honestly i don't know if Zofran worse or better than MCP. I just found articles, where was stated that it can be as effective MCP but a bit more pricey.

You can also add Dimenhydrinate, it is an antihistamine and it should be OTC in most countries.

Personally i will use Ondansetron with MCP (Chloroquine method). Dunno if it is better but probably will not be worse than MCP alone.

I already have Zofran and it was like $5. Canadian health insurance rocks! I can't find MCP so i might hafta just do Zofran and gravol *shrug*

 

[NoOneKnows]

from wiki "In the drug cocktails described on this wiki which rely on sedatives (which any reasonable cocktail would), the sedatives should take effect in less than 10 minutes. Nevertheless, this means that we need the protection of an antiemetic (or antiemetics, depending on your preference) for a short period of time, until the sedatives depress the central nervous system, thus ultimately also depressing the vomiting centre in the brain, therefore preventing any chance for emesis to occur."

Because SN is not a central nervous system depressant ,and the lost of consiousness is due to drop in blood pressure, is there a possibility to vomit while being unconscious, not dead yet ?
This worries me, because my stomach is pretty damaged,and I do often have nausea,cant process food properly....so I may start to choke on my vomit while being unconsciouss potentionally?

 

[spanishguy22]

I wonder about taking zofran with Metoclopramide

 

[LifeIsNotFun]

Ok. So I guess I'll provide the inside scoop for the two people I know who passed by N.

They both took Metroclopramide as a stat dose of 45 mg roughly 40-60 minutes prior to drinking 16 grams (2 bottles) of liquid N. One person added an additional 16 mg of Ondansetron.

Good luck people

What if someone takes 3 bottles because they weigh more? Are these a good meto?

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[Only Me Here]

Bumping this back up as everyone keeps freaking themselves out over Meto and doses, this thread has info and links to other informative threads

Do some research instead of running with the latest copy pastes that spread the more everyone repeatedly posts them.

Chapter 9 of pph has no strong opinion on 48 or stat,.

Digintas does the stat dose.

Make your own decision accordingly about what is right for you, there is no one size fits all.

 

[「 」]

Bumping this back up as everyone keeps freaking themselves out over Meto and doses, this thread has info and links to other informative threads

Do some research instead of running with the latest copy pastes that spread the more everyone repeatedly posts them.

Chapter 9 of pph has no strong opinion on 48 or stat,.

Digintas does the stat dose.

Make your own decision accordingly about what is right for you, there is no one size fits all.

after reading this thread it seems Dignitas does 30mg stat dose, and PPEH (prior to '18 October release, which is not available in this site's resources) does 60mg as stat dose. I just want to know if I should go for the lower dose if PPH updated its stat amount.

 

[Only Me Here]

I'd assume they updated it for a valid reason.

 

[「 」]

i was honestly just asking in hopes you or someone had the updated version of the PPEH so we could confirm

 

[Only Me Here]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-peaceful-pill-ehandbook-march-24-2019-revision.14416/

There is a june edition, but don't think its been posted here. The member who posted this and other updates hasnt been on since may.

 

[not_a_robot]

PN is the doctor we're no longer allowed to name, not to be confused with Philip Netzsche, who is not a doctor at all and just happens to have a similar sounding name.

The update is available here, in the resources section. There was a discussion in a separate thread which I'll find and link for you in a minute. The anti emetic advice is not specific to N but is for all drug cocktails, so N quantity is not important. Besides, anti emetics either stop you throwing up, or they don't - but the higher dose may cause more severe side effects.

Sorry, newbie here; what "side effects" are we looking at?

 

[「 」]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/the-peaceful-pill-ehandbook-march-24-2019-revision.14416/

There is a june edition, but don't think its been posted here. The member who posted this and other updates hasnt been on since may.

thank you so much! it has been indeed changed from 60mg to 30mg meto and from 40 minutes prior to 60 minutes.