Help Best anti emetic regimen

[Stoner]

I just received my anti emetics yesterday but reading this topic this is the first time i've heard of effects like twitching or vomiting caused by the anti-e and it scares me a little. I have only 20 pills of 10mg (so 200mg), I don't know how to plan the pre-drinking N, can anyone shed some light on it for me ?

Test the anti emetics first. I tested 1 pill when I tested my N. No side effects for me. But it was just 1 pill.

The link and the pph will give you insight on how to plan it.

 

[Crash]

Test the anti emetics first. I tested 1 pill when I tested my N. No side effects for me. But it was just 1 pill.

The link and the pph will give you insight on how to plan it.

How did you taste your N ? I heard once you open it, it loses its potency unless you store it in a fridge (which I can't do as I don't live alone)

 

[Stoner]

How did you taste your N ? I heard once you open it, it loses its potency unless you store it in a fridge (which I can't do as I don't live alone)

Use a syringe to poke through it. 1 tablespoon.

 

[Doqtress]

There I think the 24/25h before regimen makes sense

So the 24 hr method, is that 1 every 8 hrs and then two an HR before?

 

[pleasethistime]

isTrimethobenzamide hydrochloride ok as antiemetic for SN?

 

[angie]

That's fair. 60mg seems insane; I see no value added to taking such a huge dose. Overall though, meto is a pretty benign drug, and as far as I know, muscle spasms are a more unusual side effect. Then again, I can't speak to the risks of that high of a dose.

Edit: What I meant by "excessive" was the combined protocols of round the clock dosing *plus* a stat dose. But 60 mg in one dose? I wouldn't endorse that.

The ppeh recommends 60mg as a stat dose ? surely they wouldnt recommend that amount without good reason .They must know through feedback from people who have taken N what is required prior to taking N .

 

[Chinaski]

The ppeh recommends 60mg as a stat dose ? surely they wouldnt recommend that amount without good reason .They must know through feedback from people who have taken N what is required prior to taking N .

No, the ppeh used to recommend that dose. Now it recommends 30mg, as does pretty much everyone else.

 

[Salvacion]

Ok. So I guess I'll provide the inside scoop for the two people I know who passed by N.

They both took Metroclopramide as a stat dose of 45 mg roughly 40-60 minutes prior to drinking 16 grams (2 bottles) of liquid N. One person added an additional 16 mg of Ondansetron.

Good luck people

What about Tagamet ?

 

[Mistress Death]

What about Tagamet ?

That's an acid reducer.

 

[angie]

No, the ppeh used to recommend that dose. Now it recommends 30mg, as does pretty much everyone else.

The ppeh quotes 60mg for N as a stat dose ??? is it not SN that you use 30mg
Unless it has changed from 60-30 but its the 1st i have heard of Nembutal changes to stat dose ??

 

[angie]

If N stat dose has changed from 60mg. to 30mg does any one have a copy of this information from ppeh my copy is from

No, the ppeh used to recommend that dose. Now it recommends 30mg, as does pretty much everyone else.

Do you have a link or copy of that info stating stat dose is now 30mg for N in the ppeh . It says 60mg in the copy i have but its an older ppeh. If it has changed id want to get the dose right .

 

[lululoo]

Does anyone know why PPH recommends a more intense dosing regimen? Is it because the greater liquid of A's N requires a stronger dose than dignitas N which is less liquid? Or is it just random?

Also any thoughts on how someone who is both sensitive to meds and who has a sensitive stomach (IBS) should approach anti-emetics? I can't decide whether to go with the 36 hour or the stat dose. I guess 36 hour could be safer for me, but like you @Chinaski, to me the stat dose is so much more psychologically appealing.

 

[Prénom Surnom]

I will be using the Chloroquine method with Hydroxychloroquine instead. I only have some Ondansetron that expired 1/18. Does anyone know if it would still be effective?

 

[Mistress Death]

I will be using the Chloroquine method with Hydroxychloroquine instead. I only have some Ondansetron that expired 1/18. Does anyone know if it would still be effective?

With medication expiration dates, they become less effective over time, but they usually stay good for up to a year and sometimes more. With Zofran, it still should be good, but I would suggest you take 1 or 1/2 more pill than you had intended since it been a year.

 

[Prénom Surnom]

With medication expiration dates, they become less effective over time, but they usually stay good for up to a year and sometimes more. With Zofran, it still should be good, but I would suggest you take 1 or 1/2 more pill than you had intended since it been a year.

Thanks. That's what I was thinking. I will try one as a test and see what happens.

I will also be taking Xanax because I don't have any Valium and unfortunately I don't have any prescription sleeping pills so I will have to take an OTC one. Any input on Diphenhydramine or Doxylamine would be appreciated.

 

[Mistress Death]

Thanks. That's what I was thinking. I will try one as a test and see what happens.

I will also be taking Xanax because I don't have any Valium and unfortunately I don't have any prescription sleeping pills so I will have to take an OTC one. Any input on Diphenhydramine or Doxylamine would be appreciated.

Most if not all otc meds will not effect ctb attempts. The survival instinct is too strong. If taken in higher quantities, it might have an effect. There are a few website that you can type in drugs to find out interactions and contrainteractions.

 

[Prénom Surnom]

Most if not all otc meds will not effect ctb attempts. The survival instinct is too strong. If taken in higher quantities, it might have an effect. There are a few website that you can type in drugs to find out interactions and contrainteractions.

A sleeping pill is needed as part of the "cocktail". The Hydroxychloroquine stops the heart and obviously the antiemetic helps you keep it down. You are also supposed to take a benzo and a sleeping pill in combination to sedate you during the process because there can be pain and seizures. I don't have access to any prescription sleeping pills so I have to settle for OTC and hope for the best. I am just trying to figure out which type would be better.

 

[angie]

Does anyone know why PPH recommends a more intense dosing regimen? Is it because the greater liquid of A's N requires a stronger dose than dignitas N which is less liquid? Or is it just random?

Also any thoughts on how someone who is both sensitive to meds and who has a sensitive stomach (IBS) should approach anti-emetics? I can't decide whether to go with the 36 hour or the stat dose. I guess 36 hour could be safer for me, but like you @Chinaski, to me the stat dose is so much more psychologically appealing.

I personally only want to take a stat dose 40mins prior to taking N its the amount im concerned about 60mg like ppeh says or less unsure of any effects it may have ? so reason i dont want the 36 hours regime or that is in case it has adverse effect on me. with stat dose it has only to be 40 mins prior so may lessen the chance of adverse effects preventing me from taking N . but as i say it the amount im unsure of .i have never taken anti emetics before .

 

[Roberto]

I'm hearing different reports on the best anti emetic regimen prior to taking N. This link here has several different regimes:

https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Antiemetic_regimen

I've also read elsewhere that to guarantee success a meto pill must be taken hourly the day before. Too much of it is conflicting. Which is the most trustworthy?

I do have Metoclopramide (Vominorm) is it good for anti-emetic?

 

[throwaway_2620]

I do have Metoclopramide (Vominorm) is it good for anti-emetic?

I just looked it up and Vominorm is a brand name for metoclopramide, so yes, it's good for anti-emetic.

 

[throwaway_2620]

I just looked it up and Vominorm is a brand name for metoclopramide, so yes, it's good for anti-emetic.

Speaking of metoclopramide (vominorm), I discovered I can buy it as well as domperidone (vomistop) from this website, [removed due to sourcing]. That's good news for me because if I run out of metoclopramide (or if it expires before I ctb), I can just buy more.

 

[Void115]

Geffer granulate contains:
Active ingredient: metoclopramide hydrochloride 5 mg, 50 mg dimethicone, potassium citrate 94.45 mg, 670 mg citric acid, tartaric acid 152 mg, 1050 mg sodium bicarbonate
Other ingredients: Orange flavor, sucrose.
Can i use this?

 

[throwaway_2620]

@Void115, Since it has metoclopramide in it, I'm pretty sure you could.

 

[Void115]

@Void115, Since it has metoclopramide in it, I'm pretty sure you could.

It s great, it doesnt need perscription!

 

[angie]

Im seriously considering taking N with no anti emetics , i want to just take a stat dose 40 mins prior but cant get any concrete reassurance on right amount ppeh says 60 mg im scared its too much and then im scared taking less isnt enough ? what a dilemma this is . wish this didnt need preparation ,would prefer something impulsive that cant be overthought .

 

[Void115]

Im seriously considering taking N with no anti emetics , i want to just take a stat dose 40 mins prior but cant get any concrete reassurance on right amount ppeh says 60 mg im scared its too much and then im scared taking less isnt enough ? what a dilemma this is . wish this didnt need preparation ,would prefer something impulsive that cant be overthought .

Try with ginger it has anti emetic properties

 

[Deleted member 4993]

My own choice will be 60mg of meto 45 minutes before.
As others have stated it's wise to do a dry run to test your reaction beforehand.

I am not a fan of pre loading Antiemetics buts that's just my own opinion.

 

[CTB-London]

Consult the link chinaski posted. You can do it with Domperidone or Metro, but meto is stronger. Add on optional Ondansetron (Zofran) if you want. I might add on an extra dose or two same day but will likely do stat dose so I don't sit thinking about death for 48 hours.

Metoclopramide and Ondansetron is my plan

 

[Arak]

@CTB-London , let met know if you figure out the total cost .... what's the device.

 

[Arak]

@Passingby ,

Sources differ but I see it is often stated that the onset of action starts after 30-60 minutes. Maybe give it a bit more time ? ...