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hopeless123

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Sep 6, 2021
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I had the police turn up at my door again unannounced just now. It was my arresting officer and another PC. She asked me to sign a community order form to close my case. She wanted to close my case because I spoke to a case worker at Surrey Police last week and have been referred to the mental health team.

The officer said because pentobarbital is a class B drug, my file would be on record for 7 years and the information would be disclosed on a DBS check if required. A DBS is generally used by potential employers to check records to make sure I'm suitable to work in certain fields.

I said what would happen if I refused to sign the form and she said the CPS would prepare a case against me and it would go to court. I mentioned I would be one of the few people to be arrested and prosecuted for possession of N in the world. She said it's because I've been found with a class B drug (they tested it, it was N) and I admitted my guilt, I'd be likely be prosecuted. I said half this building is full of people smoking weed (which is a class B here) why don't you barge into their homes and arrest them too.

I said I might need a solicitor to help me. She rang her sergeant and he said if I don't sign it, it'll go to court.

So, like the fucking idiot I am, they walked out without me signing the form and I'm getting prosecuted.

I don't know what I'm doing. I want to run away, hide and die somewhere.
 
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Teardrop2021

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I had the police turn up at my door again unannounced just now. It was my arresting officer and another PC. She asked me to sign a community order form to close my case. She wanted to close my case because I spoke to a case worker at Surrey Police last week and have been referred to the mental health team.

The officer said because pentobarbital is a class B drug, my file would be on record for 7 years and the information would be disclosed on a DBS check if required. A DBS is generally used by potential employers to check records to make sure I'm suitable to work in certain fields.

I said what would happen if I refused to sign the form and she said the CPS would prepare a case against me and it would go to court. I mentioned I would be one of the few people to be arrested and prosecuted for possession of N in the world. She said it's because I've been found with a class B drug (they tested it, it was N) and I admitted my guilt, I'd be likely be prosecuted. I said half this building is full of people smoking weed (which is a class B here) why don't you barge into their homes and arrest them too.

I said I might need a solicitor to help me. She rang her sergeant and he said if I don't sign it, it'll go to court.

So, like the fucking idiot I am, they walked out without me signing the form and I'm getting prosecuted.

I don't know what I'm doing. I want to run away, hide and die somewhere.
Omg that's horrible!!!
What country are you in?
 
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Smart No More

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You could call them and offer to sign it. It's probably not too late if that's what you want to do. With it being class B your prosecution (assuming you have no previous) might only be a caution which I think only shows up on the full dbs check that's done for people applying for things like care work or teaching. Depends on the judge I suppose. They might take pity on you because you're an otherwise upstanding citizen and have agreed to follow up with MH team. You showed no interest in selling it on and were compliant with the police when they came. Even though there was some discussion you concented and that's what matters on paper. However, as you ordered from abroad its importing/smuggling technically so it could go either way.

What would your charge be if you signed? Possession? That's not such a big deal. As you quite rightly pointed out, everyone in the building (along with every man and his dog) smokes weed these days. Many of which of probably prospective employers. I think you could quite easily explain it away as cannabis posession to future employers if it were to come up. Your dbs would probably only say possession of a class b.

I'm not up on law so this isn't advice. Please speak with a legal representative. I think if it were me I'd probably lean towards signing off. Maybe you can call the station and explain that you haven't ruled out signing. Just that you feel the need to speak with a legal advisor first and ask them nicely to hold off processing it until you have done so. I'm pretty sure you're entitled to speak with representation before interview and other proceedings so surely the same should apply here. In fact, now I think about it that could be a potential loophole for having your case dismissed. Like if they don't give you ample opportunity to get advice from a legal rep when they should. I could be wrong.

More than anything I just feel really sorry for you. Considering why you did it/had it.

That considered you have that in your favour at trial too. You weren't in your "right mind". I mean is undeniable that right or wrong that's what influenced your decision to get it. I can't see any justice in a court/judge convicting you for being suicidal and acting under the influences of that state of mind.

You come across very astute and decent from the way you write. I hope people see that in you in your day to day life and it's reflected in your situation.
 
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Cathy Ames

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I had the police turn up at my door again unannounced just now. It was my arresting officer and another PC. She asked me to sign a community order form to close my case. She wanted to close my case because I spoke to a case worker at Surrey Police last week and have been referred to the mental health team.

The officer said because pentobarbital is a class B drug, my file would be on record for 7 years and the information would be disclosed on a DBS check if required. A DBS is generally used by potential employers to check records to make sure I'm suitable to work in certain fields.

I said what would happen if I refused to sign the form and she said the CPS would prepare a case against me and it would go to court. I mentioned I would be one of the few people to be arrested and prosecuted for possession of N in the world. She said it's because I've been found with a class B drug (they tested it, it was N) and I admitted my guilt, I'd be likely be prosecuted. I said half this building is full of people smoking weed (which is a class B here) why don't you barge into their homes and arrest them too.

I said I might need a solicitor to help me. She rang her sergeant and he said if I don't sign it, it'll go to court.

So, like the fucking idiot I am, they walked out without me signing the form and I'm getting prosecuted.

I don't know what I'm doing. I want to run away, hide and die somewhere.
Get an attorney, ASAP! Also, it might be different there, but in the US, the police are not the ones who decide as to whether a prosecution occurs. The intervening step is whether or not a prosecutor agrees with the police that it is a case worth pursuing. From time to time, they decline or put the person into a diversion program instead (kind of like being on probation, and you don't have it on your record unless you violate probation). An attorney will be the best qualified person to explain how it really works (because you cannot rely on police to accurately convey it) AND an attorney is the person to recommend the best way to get the best result.

I'm so very sorry that this is happening to you.
 
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freedompass

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Jan 27, 2021
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I had the police turn up at my door again unannounced just now. It was my arresting officer and another PC. She asked me to sign a community order form to close my case. She wanted to close my case because I spoke to a case worker at Surrey Police last week and have been referred to the mental health team.

The officer said because pentobarbital is a class B drug, my file would be on record for 7 years and the information would be disclosed on a DBS check if required. A DBS is generally used by potential employers to check records to make sure I'm suitable to work in certain fields.

I said what would happen if I refused to sign the form and she said the CPS would prepare a case against me and it would go to court. I mentioned I would be one of the few people to be arrested and prosecuted for possession of N in the world. She said it's because I've been found with a class B drug (they tested it, it was N) and I admitted my guilt, I'd be likely be prosecuted. I said half this building is full of people smoking weed (which is a class B here) why don't you barge into their homes and arrest them too.

I said I might need a solicitor to help me. She rang her sergeant and he said if I don't sign it, it'll go to court.

So, like the fucking idiot I am, they walked out without me signing the form and I'm getting prosecuted.

I don't know what I'm doing. I want to run away, hide and die somewhere.
That is a huge bummer, I'm so sorry. About 5 years ago I had a 'welfare check' myself as apparently I was on a list of people who had received N from China (back in 2014). They came in but didn't ask to search. I denied having it and said they could search if they liked (I genuinely didn't have it anymore by that time if I recall correctly). I got the little prolife talk. Sounds like I got off lightly. Is there any way we can just deny all knowledge or make like it never arrived and if we did, would we then avoid any legal consequences? I have no idea. It's awful to lose your N, lose money and even get a caution on your record. I've had a caution on my record for something unrelated but it expires after 6 years. It barred me from 1 voluntary job with vulnerable people I'd applied for. I didn't care too much about it luckily. Most jobs it would not be an issue and after 6 years (or 7?) you're fine again.

Maybe that's the least of your worries idk, just thought I'd share my experience, also in the U.K.
 
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GrizzlyGrapefruit

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Jun 17, 2019
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You could call them and offer to sign it.

Agreed. I'm fairly certain any person involved in this case would prefer to not have to go to trial for this in the first place.
 
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leeloosnow

leeloosnow

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Aug 28, 2022
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agreed, don't trust shit that law enforcement says, ever, period. remain silent and consult a lawyer ASAP
remember, LE's goal is to get you in as much trouble as possible, not give you any sorta breaks or whatever. their priority is your prosecution. staying quiet NEVER hurt anyone's cause, exercise that right and your lawyer's advice.
 
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Smart No More

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May 5, 2021
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Yeah I think the key thing is to contact the station and let them know you're asking for time to contact and consult legal representation and that you haven't ruled out signing it. I feel like they have a duty to allow the reasonable time needed for you to do that. If its on record that you made that clear I feel that can only go in your favour. Certainly can't go against you. You're not arguing that you didn't break the law. You already owned up to that. Now you're just looking for guidance and representation on how the navigate the system which everyone needs and is entitled to. If you're not a career criminal (which you clearly aren't) the whole system is alien to you.
 
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hopeless123

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Sep 6, 2021
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Omg that's horrible!!!
What country are you in?

Hello,

I'm in the UK. Still not sure what to do. Looking online, I might be able to contest this thing even though I've admitted guilt. I don't know whether to wait for my mental health appointment next month and maybe let them liaise with the police, or maybe even the CPS could drop the case also.

The arresting officer was quite poor in her approach and was quite aggressive. I don't know if I could make a complaint about Surrey Police or even speak to my local newspaper.

I don't just want to accept this thing. I was in my own home not bothering and arrested in front of my neighbours and now I have to abide by this community order.

I work part time and look after my elderly mother who has dementia. She's the only reason why I'm still here and I like looking after her. I also need to get away from her as she gets too much so go to work and I was thinking about changing career paths into the care industry but with something like this, I wouldn't be able to. It would stop me working in a lot of sectors, so I might try to fight it, if I can.

I'll update you guys if and when things change.

Thanks for all your feedback!
 
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nolongersuicidal?

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Jul 19, 2022
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I hope so too. I would fucking hate to see D get busted. D is actually saving people from a life of suffering and these shitty, pathetic cops just want to prolong it. To a lot of people they are already in a prison. Do these Police just want to put people in jail on top of the jail they are already in?
Absolute wankers and a disgrace to humanity.
What does D mean?
 

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