Backup solution to SN

[suicimar]

Hi,

I have always done my research and I have always tried my best to have a real backup plan. When it comes to SN, is there a feasible backup or additional method that you could think of? I am not talking about prerequisites, rules, and so on. I have reviewed several posts here to know about anti-acid pills, painkillers, doses, and backup cups. I did my homework ;-) I know we should test SN etc.
I am talking about combining SN with sth else, e.g. hanging.

 

[befree]

I would not choose an additional method where you have to swallow something. You may vomit even though you have taken an antiemetic.
Also SCUBA, SCBA , EEBD hood and exit bag would not be suitable.

The best additional method I can think of is CO (carbon monoxid) with BBQ.

Charcoal method advice

Hi, I somehow came across this site after some furious google searching over the weekend. After trying and failing other methods over the past month I came across back to the idea of carbon monoxide and decided to dig further into charcoal burning, of which there are plenty discussions on this...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[Vizzy]

Hi,

I have always done my research and I have always tried my best to have a real backup plan. When it comes to SN, is there a feasible backup or additional method that you could think of? I am not talking about prerequisites, rules, and so on. I have reviewed several posts here to know about anti-acid pills, painkillers, doses, and backup cups. I did my homework ;-) I know we should test SN etc.
I am talking about combining SN with sth else, e.g. hanging.

I would not choose an additional method where you have to swallow something. You may vomit even though you have taken an antiemetic.

The best additional method I can think of is CO (carbon monoxid) with BBQ.

Charcoal method advice

Hi, I somehow came across this site after some furious google searching over the weekend. After trying and failing other methods over the past month I came across back to the idea of carbon monoxide and decided to dig further into charcoal burning, of which there are plenty discussions on this...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Don't do any additional stuffs

Don't do charcoal method with this, that will make you more vomit

If you live in a tall building, you can jump if sn doesn't work

SN will mostly work because that's why you are drinking second cup of sn if you vomit which will make it lethal, mostly you won't vomit after taking second cup of sn because your body will stop fighting

 

[befree]

Don't do any additional stuffs

I think it´s the free decision of the person whether to use an additional method. And I rather thought of doing both methods at the same time, instead of doing the next method afterwards in case of failure. Probably one will not be able to do the next method immediately afterwards in case of failure with SN. But in general, I too personally would not combine two methods, nor do the next one immediately afterwards. I would rather think why I failed and then thoroughly prepare for a new attempt with the same method or another.

But it also depends on personal circumstances and how fast it needs to work. Possible questions: Is the person in a hurry? Is there danger to life if the person fails ?

 

[Vizzy]

I think it´s the free decision of the person whether to use an additional method. And I rather thought of doing both methods at the same time, instead of doing the next method afterwards in case of failure. Probably one will not be able to do the next method immediately afterwards in case of failure with SN. But in general, I too personally would not combine two methods, nor do the next one immediately afterwards. I would rather think why I failed and then thoroughly prepare for a new attempt with the same method or another.

You are crazy to recommend co method with sn method or after sn method, in this case no free decision stop giving people your wrong and dangerous recommendation!

 

[befree]

I do not recommend anything and I am not crazy ! If you don´t understand my text, use deepl.com to translate it into your language !
Why are you a member of SS ? Is the reason to seek dispute and criticize every text of other members ?

in this case no free decision

It is the free decision of suicimar, not your decision.

 

[Vizzy]

I do not recommend anything and I am not crazy ! If you don´t understand my text, use deepl.com to translate it into your language !

I clearly understand English, I am Canadian, you first recommended co method then you saying I personally don't recommend two methods, what you trying to say choose one because you are contradicting!

You need to use that translate not me

 

[befree]

I did NOT recommend. I only said what is not suitable and what I would not choose !

 

[Vizzy]

I did NOT recommend. I only said what is possible !

you are playing with people life here, it seems like you are confused with your own recommendation!

 

[befree]

Why don´t you just go for a walk instead of writing nonsense?

 

[Vizzy]

Why don´t you just go for a walk instead of writing nonsense?

You are the one writing nonsense not me, read your own comments then you will know!

 

[befree]

Oh I knew you couldn't stop fighting. Go for a walk to get some fresh air !

 

[Vizzy]

Oh I knew you couldn't stop fighting. Go for a walk to get some fresh air !

you will call my writing nonsense then you want me to be silent, nah you should be silent and go for walk instead of giving dangerous ideas to make people vegetable

 

[befree]

giving dangerous ideas to make people vegetable

Again, I never did this ! Stop accusing me unfairly.

Reported to admin.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Don't do any additional stuffs

Don't do charcoal method with this, that will make you more vomit

If you live in a tall building, you can jump if sn doesn't work

SN will mostly work because that's why you are drinking second cup of sn if you vomit which will make it lethal, mostly you won't vomit after taking second cup of sn because your body will stop fighting

Vizzy, I thought you would've been off by now however since you aren't, just how difficult could it be to take that 2nd SN drink.

 

[Vizzy]

Again, I never did this ! Stop accusing me unfairly.

Reported to admin.

Go on report to admin, I will show the proofs, I ain't scared

Vizzy, I thought you would've been off by now however since you aren't, just how difficult could it be to take that 2nd SN drink.

It will be hard but to be sure you need to take the second cup only if you vomit

 

[befree]

"I can think of" is NOT a recommendation ! Get some fresh air !

 

[Vizzy]

"I can think of" is NOT a recommendation ! Get some fresh air !

"Best additional method I can think of" is that not recommendation, make it make sense

 

[Dot]

Bth pls stp d-railng

@befree gve an opinn on potentl additnl methd

If @Vizzy ds nt agree & if thre = reasn fr nt agreeing e.g tht CO mght incrse vomitng thn pls bck tht up wth sourc infrmatn

Othrwse pls stop squabblng

 

[Vizzy]

Bth pls stp d-railng

@befree gve an opinn on potentl additnl methd

If @Vizzy ds nt agree & if thre = reasn fr nt agreeing e.g tht CO mght incrse vomitng thn pls bck tht up wth sourc infrmatn

Othrwse pls stop squabblng

Here is my source to backup my claims from cdc

Frequently Asked Questions | Carbon Monoxide Poisoning | CDC

Carbon Monoxide Poisoning Home

www.cdc.gov

I don't make arguments without proofs!



Opinions when it comes ctb methods is dangerous , op will follow and become a vegetable

 

[befree]

1. This is not a source that says CO increases vomiting after SN ingestion.

2. You claim I´m making false recommendations that harm other members.

I await your apology.

 

[Vizzy]

1. This is not a source that says CO increases vomiting after SN ingestion.

2. You claim I´m making false recommendations that harm other members.

I await your apology.

Cdc is the best source you can get in the world "Centers for Disease Control and Prevention"

Yes you are giving false recommendations and I am not gonna apologize to you!

 

[Dot]

Ok s/ CO poisnng cld cre8 xtra vomtng on top of takng SN s/ cld affct whthr SN = effctve or nt

CO itslf cn b dangrs bcse failres cn caus brn-damge & nerv damge

S/ mght nt b a gd combnatn

Tht ds nt mean tht befree = givng dangrs infrmatn - thy mde a suggestn whch cld thn b deb8td in a civil mannr

Nw agn -- as ths informatn hs bn establishd pls bth stop d-railng ths thred

N.e furthr conflct hre wll rsult in warnngs

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Ok s/ CO poisnng cld cre8 xtra vomtng on top of takng SN s/ cld affct whthr SN = effctve or nt

CO itslf cn b dangrs bcse failres cn caus brn-damge & nerv damge

S/ mght nt b a gd combnatn

Tht ds nt mean tht befree = givng dangrs infrmatn - thy mde a suggestn whch cld thn b deb8td in a civil mannr

Nw agn -- as ths informatn hs bn establishd pls bth stop d-railng ths thred

Thank you for this Dot because I feared it was getting a bit out of hand.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Yeah- I do understand the concern to either do multiple methods simultaneously- or, at least have them prepared in case the first one fails.

I just don't know how practical that is though. Especially with SN where the side effects seem like they can be pretty debhilitating. I imagine adding other methods could just increase that sense of panic/ risk of vomiting and possibly make failure even more likely.

Seeing as shortness of breath is a common side effect of SN- I imagine other methods which also cause difficulties breathing could be stressful- like hanging or CO. I mean- if the person passes out quickly enough- I guess that's good. What if they don't though? What if they pass out because of the CO and vomit the SN but don't/can't take the second glass? I guess the CO might then be enough. I don't know how easy that one is to fail.

I think there's also the real chance of dizziness, disorientation and passing out after taking SN- so I'm not sure how capable anyone would be to start doing other methods. I guess they could set stuff up and then swig the SN but yeah- maybe higher risk of vomiting and possibly more panic as multiple side effects kick in- so- greater sense of trying to abort perhaps. I don't know.

I think that's the 'danger' with any method though- or multiple methods. If additional actions are required- like drinking more SN- becoming unconscious wouldn't be good if there isn't enough of the substance to complete. It's all such a worry really.

I've thought about rigging up a noose if SN failed- to do it after but, I just can't see myself having the guts for hanging. Drinking SN then jumping also seems horrible to me. Knowing my luck, the fall wouldn't do it and I'd drown in pain.

I have this awful feeling I'm going to have to stick with SN alone. Follow the protocol. Maybe have 2 drinks mixed and the rest still sealed up- to go for it again another time if I mess up- and hope for the best. I agree though- it's deeply troubling. I want to get it right first time though. I do understand the appeal of having multiple options.

 

[suicimar]

Yeah.... getting sick after SN is a problem. Meds preventing this require a subscription in my country so hard to get :(