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TheCyberian

TheCyberian

Swinging in Her Cell
Nov 13, 2022
81
I've been thinking a lot about my upcoming attempt to CTB, and the one thing that's making me the most apprehensive is what I might experience when I lose consciousness and begin truly dying.

I don't fear the half hour of discomfort or the afterlife, but I'm scared that I might experience cardiac arrest and feel everything. Or maybe my brain will go hayware and release tons of DMT and give me the last bad trip of my life.

Do you fear what will happen while you're dying? If you've narrowly survived an attempt, do you remember any experiences from when you lost consciousness and were dying?
 
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Brayu

Student
Sep 14, 2021
192
I've been thinking a lot about my upcoming attempt to CTB, and the one thing that's making me the most apprehensive is what I might experience when I lose consciousness and begin truly dying.

I don't fear the half hour of discomfort or the afterlife, but I'm scared that I might experience cardiac arrest and feel everything. Or maybe my brain will go hayware and release tons of DMT and give me the last bad trip of my life.

Do you fear what will happen while you're dying? If you've narrowly survived an attempt, do you remember any experiences from when you lost consciousness and were dying?
It's weird to explain... I remember something (like a dream and strange sounds in my head, I can't explain... it was a lull that stunned me)
 
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Lonerzepam

Lonerzepam

O'lord! I Have My Doubts
Sep 2, 2022
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Some people say they didn't feel a thing or felt fine, even good for night-night method. Idk about partial but it seems more feasible to me. I don't know if death (no simulation) is pain, or complete simulation is pain. Both ideas scare me nonetheless. Maybe I can help put your mind at ease by telling you that many people report not feeling anything when they choose the right method like night-night or I don't remember if it was N or SN.. (although they failed obviously). If you're really worried about the process of dying then a gun is a good method, instant like flipping off a light switch. What method are you considering?
Yeah I'm scared of the process too. I sometimes hold my breath to get to know how it feels like. I obviously don't like it. Also I overdosed on Heroin a couple times and not being able to breath is just freightening. A gun would be my prefered method too. Maybe even more then N...
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
43,350
The thing that I fear the most is a method failing, and ending up with some sort of damage. The thought of that is absolutely horrific to me. If it was guaranteed that I would die after attempting ctb then my fear of actually going through the dying process would be much less, especially if the method is very peaceful. If I had N I believe that I wouldn't have any fear, I would just be relieved that I have that option and that I can peacefully free myself from this existence.
 
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BehindTheWall

BehindTheWall

May 21th 2020
Aug 26, 2020
132
I'm not afraid. I know I will have some discomfort during the process but it won't last long. My biggest fear is maybe vomit. I hate vomiting. Like really.
 
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TheCyberian

TheCyberian

Swinging in Her Cell
Nov 13, 2022
81
Some people say they didn't feel a thing or felt fine, even good for night-night method. Idk about partial but it seems more feasible to me. I don't know if death (no simulation) is pain, or complete simulation is pain. Both ideas scare me nonetheless. Maybe I can help put your mind at ease by telling you that many people report not feeling anything when they choose the right method like night-night or I don't remember if it was N or SN.. (although they failed obviously). If you're really worried about the process of dying then a gun is a good method, instant like flipping off a light switch. What method are you considering?
I'm planning to follow the new PPH protocol for SN with a less heavy dose of benzos. I've read several threads about failed SN attempts and some of them mention being revived in the hospital or the ambulance with no idea that their hearts had stopped, so I might just be overthinking things. I think the fear of the unknown is very powerful regardless of peaceful/painless the method is. I've overdosed on benzos + alcohol before and I remember entering a sort of dreamless sleep that I only have vague recollections of. Hopefully SN will be peaceful in the end like that too.
 
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jodes2

jodes2

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Aug 28, 2022
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When you lose consciousness, you don't feel anything! You don't need to worry about that. What you do have to worry about are the side effects before you go unconscious, while you're still conscious. SN is pretty gnarly, fast heart rate, sore throat and stomach, headache, bad taste, difficulty catching breath, nausea, dizziness, it's quite the combination. To feel that for 20 minutes will not be nice.
 
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TheCyberian

TheCyberian

Swinging in Her Cell
Nov 13, 2022
81
When you lose consciousness, you don't feel anything! You don't need to worry about that. What you do have to worry about are the side effects before you go unconscious, while you're still conscious. SN is pretty gnarly, fast heart rate, sore throat and stomach, headache, bad taste, difficulty catching breath, nausea, dizziness, it's quite the combination. To feel that for 20 minutes will not be nice.
Maybe, but it does at least sound bearable. I'm hoping it won't feel any worse than going for a jog with a really bad hangover lol
 
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jodes2

jodes2

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Aug 28, 2022
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Maybe, but it does at least sound bearable. I'm hoping it won't feel any worse than going for a jog with a really bad hangover lol
But the speed also in which it comes on is going to be a bit terrifying. Going for a job with a hangover is a great analogy for minimising the distress, but any of the symptoms could become unbearable at which point I can see my determination wavering, with terrifying fear of symptoms leading me to call for help
 
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TheCyberian

TheCyberian

Swinging in Her Cell
Nov 13, 2022
81
But the speed also in which it comes on is going to be a bit terrifying. Going for a job with a hangover is a great analogy for minimising the distress, but any of the symptoms could become unbearable at which point I can see my determination wavering, with terrifying fear of symptoms leading me to call for help
That's why I'm opting for propranolol and a large dose of benzos, personally. I think benzos are really essential when it comes to combatting SI because they make you not give a fuck about anything (or significantly dull the distress at least). What do you think about locking communication devices in a time locked safe? I'm contemplating doing that so I can't feasibly call for help even if the fear in the moment makes me want to.
 
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willitpass

willitpass

Don’t try to offer me help, I’ve tried everything
Mar 10, 2020
3,219
when i tried SN after i passed out i no longer was there. i didn't experience anything, i ceased to exist. similar to going under anesthesia. the only reason i survived is a panicked and told someone what i was doing and they called for help
 
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jodes2

jodes2

Hello people ❤️
Aug 28, 2022
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why I'm opting for propranolol and a large dose of benzos, personally. I think benzos are really essential when it comes to combatting SI because they make you not give a fuck about anything (or significantly dull the distress at least). What do you think about locking communication devices in a time locked safe? I'm contemplating doing that so I can't feasibly call for help even if the fear in the moment makes me want to.
A time locked safe is a great idea! But is it feasible to lock up PCs and laptops and tablets too so you can't even send emails? Benzos are a good idea, but I've never had enough benzos to know what that contentment feels like. The low doses I've been on have done bugger all
 
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TheCyberian

TheCyberian

Swinging in Her Cell
Nov 13, 2022
81
when i tried SN after i passed out i no longer was there. i didn't experience anything, i ceased to exist. similar to going under anesthesia. the only reason i survived is a panicked and told someone what i was doing and they called for help
Thank you for sharing. That's relieving to hear. How did you feel during the time before losing consciousness if you don't mind me asking? Were the symptoms of SN poisoning what caused you to panic or was it the fear of dying?
A time locked safe is a great idea! But is it feasible to lock up PCs and laptops and tablets too so you can't even send emails? Benzos are a good idea, but I've never had enough benzos to know what that contentment feels like. The low doses I've been on have done bugger all
I think it would be feasible if a time locked padlock was used instead of a safe. It could be used to lock something large like a chest or a trunk that would easily fit larger electronics. Maybe I would still try to alert my neighbors to get help, but I doubt I would have the ability to clearly communicate what's wrong as long I tough through the initial part of the experience.
 
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jodes2

jodes2

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Aug 28, 2022
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Thank you for sharing. That's relieving to hear. How did you feel during the time before losing consciousness if you don't mind me asking? Were the symptoms of SN poisoning what caused you to panic or was it the fear of dying?

I think it would be feasible if a time locked padlock was used instead of a safe. It could be used to lock something large like a chest or a trunk that would easily fit larger electronics. Maybe I would still try to alert my neighbors to get help, but I doubt I would have the ability to clearly communicate what's wrong as long I tough through the initial part of the experience.
I have social anxiety and avoidant PD so I'd be too scared to go to neighbours thankfully. By the time I did, if I did, I'd be virtually unconscious anyway, though I guess they could still save me if that happens since death takes a little while
 
lumipallo

lumipallo

Member
Apr 5, 2021
21
Terribly so. Any non-instant method, in my mind, would just trigger an immediate panic attack. There's no scenario where I take SN and don't flip out the very next second.
 
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CTB Dream

CTB Dream

Injury damage disabl hard talk no argu make fun et
Sep 17, 2022
2,797
Afraid pain suffering only, peace methd no afarid thud life all terrible ctb less afraid, need peace method easy if have n do immediate no think no hesitate have enough life real cruel terrible
 
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niiina

niiina

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Aug 20, 2022
232
I'm afraid of failing again and I'm scared of the agony of my method (full suspension)
 
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BipolarExpress

BipolarExpress

he/him · tired/exhausted
Nov 11, 2022
266
I'm also afraid of the process of dying. It's not being dead I'm afraid of; it's being aware that my life is ending.
 
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outrider567

Visionary
Apr 5, 2022
2,851
I've been thinking a lot about my upcoming attempt to CTB, and the one thing that's making me the most apprehensive is what I might experience when I lose consciousness and begin truly dying.

I don't fear the half hour of discomfort or the afterlife, but I'm scared that I might experience cardiac arrest and feel everything. Or maybe my brain will go hayware and release tons of DMT and give me the last bad trip of my life.

Do you fear what will happen while you're dying? If you've narrowly survived an attempt, do you remember any experiences from when you lost consciousness and were dying?
According to actor Peter Sellers, cardiac arrest is totally painless and just like going to sleep--As he so stated in a news conference back in 1964, he had many cardiac arrests
 
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Vegetale

Member
May 30, 2022
14
I admit I'm afraid of dying for the same reason. But in the end I asked myself, what's the point of being afraid? In fact my life is completely based on fear, I'm alive not because I want to live but because I'm afraid to die, but what's the point? Sooner or later I will die anyway, the only thing that will have changed is time, I will surely have lived a shitty life and when I die in a hospital bed I will ask myself...why didn't I kill myself earlier to spare myself this horror of life ?
 
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Gustav Hartmann

Gustav Hartmann

Enlightened
Aug 28, 2021
1,083
Consciousness is very energy consuming. If the energy supply of the brain is stopped for example when the blood flow to the brain is blocked by hanging, the brain goes into its energy saving mode - with other words you, pass out. So why should you comeback to consciousness if the blood flow is still blocked?
On the other hand, if we really get back in a state of consciousness during the process of dying it will happen anyway no matter if we kill our selves or if we die for other reasons.
 
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TheDevilsAngel

TheDevilsAngel

LetMeFree
Apr 22, 2019
827
I'm terrified of the process I just can't see how it won't be uncomfortable I'm hoping when I do go it will be quick. I've suffered enough imo
 
Un-

Un-

I'm a failure. An absolute waste. A LOSEr.
Apr 6, 2021
652
To be quite honest, it's not the manner in which I die that scares me. I plan on taking SN. That's not scary.

But I guess I'm traumatised by a dream I had in which I was shot and killed. I died in my dream. And I was terrified. Slowly fading out of existence.. Being unable to see, then only hear your breathing.. I'll never forget how it felt. And it terrifies me to no end.

It's not about whether it hurts, but it's about.. Having no control. You're dying. You're losing yourself.. And you have no say in the matter.

I probably sound like a looney. Whatever..
 
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achromatic

achromatic

hedgehog dilemma
Oct 18, 2022
142
Yes, that's why I will probably wait till I'll get propranolol at least, even though I was tempted to just wing it and take my SN " raw " tomorrow. I have wpw syndrome and get tachyarrhythmia naturally, so I'm double scared that it make my dying from sn experience worse then average let's call it 😂
also terrified of blind & paralysed, but still aware moment possible before losing consciousness - not that I think that it's something sure to happen.
 
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actual_fox

actual_fox

Arcanist
Sep 15, 2022
469
Bran will experience lack of oxygen before heart will.
 
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Regen

I stay in my power
Aug 20, 2020
522
Yes. I am afraid.
I am allways in panic if something with my body ist not allright. So i am very afraid of dying.
 

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