Discussion Are there any believable cases of successful suicide by hanging on this site?

[Worndown]

 

[Thisisnotaname]

Not everyone is good with knots. There are a lot of them and they csn be used in many ways.
Ask questions if needed since knots can be used in many ways. Google helps.
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Have you ever made a knot ?
If you don't, don't recommand using them if it's not work plz

 

[Worndown]

Yes I have. That Boy Scout experience was not wasted on me.

I do have a few knots that are helpful for use in this thread. Hanging without knots would be difficult.
I suggest researching before attempting. Each situation will have differences and there are many knots that can make it work for that person. I posted a small list with images.

They need to ask.
If asked, I will answer.

 

[babouflo201223]

Je t'invite donc à rechercher le noeud de huit simple, qui se fait autour d'un point d'ancrage. Pas le double. Tu peux le trouver facilement sur internet

Je t'invite donc à rechercher le noeud de huit simple, qui se fait autour d'un point d'ancrage. Pas le double. Tu peux le trouver facilement sur internet

Ok, donc c'est un noeud pour le "point d'ancrage", pas le noeud pour mettre la tête à l'intérieur. C'est ça ?

Ce n'est douloureux que si la corde est trop fine. Moi, qui pèse 90 kg, j'ai utilisé une corde d'amarrage de 20 mm, un nœud coulant non contraignant, j'ai placé le nœud entre l'œil et l'oreille et je me suis évanoui au bout de 5 à 15 secondes. Ce n'est pas douloureux du tout, je l'ai fait plusieurs fois, mon partenaire m'a laissé tomber dès que je me suis évanoui.

Partial hanging of course ?

Oui, je l'ai fait. Cette expérience de scoutisme n'a pas été vaine pour moi.

J'ai quelques nœuds qui peuvent être utiles pour ce fil. Il serait difficile de suspendre sans nœuds.
Je vous conseille de faire des recherches avant de tenter votre chance. Chaque situation aura des différences et il existe de nombreux nœuds qui peuvent faire fonctionner cette situation pour cette personne. J'ai publié une petite liste avec des images.

Il faut qu'ils demandent.
Si on me le demande, je répondrai.

Ok, then I ask ! What is the best knot to put the head inside ? A slipknot I suppose, but there are different ones. What is the best for less suffering ?

 

[Thisisnotaname]

Yes I have. That Boy Scout experience was not wasted on me.

I do have a few knots that are helpful for use in this thread. Hanging without knots would be difficult.
I suggest researching before attempting. Each situation will have differences and there are many knots that can make it work for that person. I posted a small list with images.

They need to ask.
If asked, I will answer.

You're not sure then. That's why I said that. The first you posted doesn't work for an anchor beause you can't pass the loop around.

 

[babouflo201223]

Ok, donc c'est un noeud pour le "point d'ancrage", pas le noeud pour mettre la tête à l'intérieur. C'est ça ?

Partial hanging of course ?

Ok, then I ask ! What is the best knot to put the head inside ? A slipknot I suppose, but there are different ones. What is the best for less suffering ?

Yes I have. That Boy Scout experience was not wasted on me.

I do have a few knots that are helpful for use in this thread. Hanging without knots would be difficult.
I suggest researching before attempting. Each situation will have differences and there are many knots that can make it work for that person. I posted a small list with images.

They need to ask.
If asked, I will answer.

I ask, in case of full suspension, what is the best slipknot for less suffering (the more efficient). My question is only about the knot to put the head inside, not about the knot for the "ancrage point". Thank you.

 

[Thisisnotaname]

Answer is in your question.
Slipk*ot

 

[babouflo201223]

La réponse est dans votre question.
Slipk*ot

Yes, of course, but I think there are different slipknots, more or less efficient. Sorry, I see you're French too, and I speak English rather bad. The more I think the more I'm afraid to make some mistakes with full suspension. It's why I asked to the member Worndown about the drawing with a lot of knots.

 

[Thisisnotaname]

Tu trouveras ton bonheur sur YT.
Une vidéo vaut mille dessins

 

[Worndown]

I ask, in case of full suspension, what is the best slipknot for less suffering (the more efficient). My question is only about the knot to put the head inside, not about the knot for the "ancrage point". Thank you.

How good are you at tying knots?

My suggestion is to start with the overhand loop knot at one end of the rope. It makes a fixed loop that DOES NOT tighten.

Feed the other end if the rope through the loop.

You now have a noose that tightens easily and fully.

 

[opheliaoveragain]

While you're technically 'right', it's also important to respect others and the experiences they share. Without confirmation or observation, it would indeed just be an anecdote, and like anything online, it could lack reliability.

Imagine putting effort into the site seeking self-deliverance, only to have people question your authenticity after you are gone? That would feel pretty unfair and shitty, but I fully understand the challenge of not being able to "prove" that it happened. I hear you, but let's err on the side of going with 'presumed successful' without potentially degrading other people's experiences they have been gracious enough to share with us!




Here are a few (some) goodbye threads from users who reported hanging as their method who have not been seen since: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10]


That's part of why it's a time-tested method—dating back as long as humanity has used ligatures. It's remarkably effective unless someone intervenes or the anchor point fails. When executed correctly, it's very reliable. Which is why in America it remains the #2 method behind firearms, the #1 method in Canada, and the #1 method for men in the UK and now also the #1 method for women in the UK (it used to be #2; so regardless if #1 or #2, speaks volumes still), the #1 method in Australia, #1 across Europe, etc, etc, etc. It is widely known for its reliability, access to the materials needed without restrictions like other methods might need (such as guns). Buying a good rope is cheap and easy to purchase for most people. In fact, it is probably among the most cost effective methods in addition to its reliability.

No wonder it is so popular:

• Cost effective
• Relatively easy
• Lethally effective
• Legal (not sure anyone has any sort of legal restriction to buying or making rope)
• Simple
• Peaceful (loss of consciousness is rapid when properly done)

Of course the biggest downside is the risk of potential long-term damage if you are rescued or if you hang for a bit then have the anchor point give out or the rope breaks and you survive thereafter. The logistics can be a little difficult for some but I suspect people very motivated without other means have absolutely considered this. Of course, the SI can be a bitch to overcome with this method but that can exist with any method to varying degrees. But given given it's #1 (well #2 in the USA) ranking, people obviously can and do frequently overcome it but anyone in that much tremendous pain and suffering likely have come to the end of their rope (no pun intended) anyways to bring them to the point they are able to step off the chair/stool/whatever it is in order to do the hanging. It certainly is not for everyone who wants self deliverance and I fully can understand the reasons why. Every method certainly has its pros/cons of course. In balance, hanging has a lot of very solid pros for it which is why it is statistically so popular.


Abolustely correct!


It's less about constricting the "throat"—which many might associate with the windpipe—and more about cutting off the supply to the carotid arteries. When people hear "throat," it often brings to mind images of the esophagus or the pharynx, at least for me.


It seems there may be some misunderstanding about what constitutes a good hanging. While it's absolutely true that tightening a ligature around the neck can obstruct the airway, leading to suffocation and oxygen deprivation, the most effective method compresses the carotid arteries, which supply blood to the brain. This compression causes a rapid decrease in blood flow, resulting in unconsciousness within seconds. If the pressure continues, it will lead to brain death. Granted, I will give you that this could be difficult to know or pull off precisely and the result is going to yield the same - death.

To clarify, most statistics regarding hanging do often refer to "suffocation (including hanging)" or "hanging/suffocation," which is a valid perspective on why you said that. However, it's important to acknowledge that, barring rescue or a failure in the anchor point, hanging is one of the most reliably fatal methods. Ultimately, whether death results from lack of oxygen to the brain or suffocation, the outcome remains which bodes well for this method.

These posts may be helpful [1][2][3][4][5] to help with your research on how hanging works/method behind it, as would the Hanging MegaThread.


Agreed fully with this.

Hope something in here is helpful in your educational quest, and I hope you find everything you are looking for and get peace & serenity.

bumping this response. you always manage to say what i'm already thinking, AJ.

 

[babouflo201223]

Tu trouveras ton bonheur sur YT.
Une vidéo vaut mille dessins

Thank you. I've already looked at YT, but I'm lost. Too bad ! Think I'm too dumb.

 

[Thisisnotaname]

Spoiler: For information only

Thank you. I've already looked at YT, but I'm lost. Too bad ! Think I'm too dumb.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Ok, donc c'est un noeud pour le "point d'ancrage", pas le noeud pour mettre la tête à l'intérieur. C'est ça ?

Partial hanging of course ?

Ok, then I ask ! What is the best knot to put the head inside ? A slipknot I suppose, but there are different ones. What is the best for less suffering ?

No, full suspension.

 

[lastch]

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Would you say a clover hitch knot is better than a bowline knot for attaching to anchor point

 

[Worndown]

As long as a knot does not slip and you can tie it properly, use whatever works. What you are tying to will matter. Practice your chosen knot a few times to verify it holds.
We can give suggestions and some practical advice, but the user needs to assess their needs and abilities.

If someone is agitated or overly stressed, making choices and tying knots will not be easy. Step back and revisit when you can make better descisions.
A hasty attempt is prone to failure. Nobody should experience failure.

 

[babouflo201223]

Ce n'est douloureux que si la corde est trop fine. Moi, qui pèse 90 kg, j'ai utilisé une corde d'amarrage de 20 mm, un nœud coulant non contraignant, j'ai placé le nœud entre l'œil et l'oreille et je me suis évanoui au bout de 5 à 15 secondes. Ce n'est pas douloureux du tout, je l'ai fait plusieurs fois, mon partenaire m'a laissé tomber dès que je me suis évanoui.

Bt it was for partial suspension, not full one ? Otherwise I don't understand what yoi mean about your partner.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Bt it was for partial suspension, not full one ? Otherwise I don't understand what yoi mean about your partner.

I had a partner for non lethal hanging, the rope was thrown over a vertical beam, on one end the noose and me and on the other end my partner who holds the other end utill I pass out.

 

[We Are Angels]

I'm not sure what this post is even trying to ask.

Do you mean, has anyone posting on this site successfully hanged themselves? Seems statistically probable, but unless their account was connected to their real identity no one will know. Are you asking if the hanging advice works here? Are you asking if the information is correct? Even yourube videos will tell you how to tie a noose. Hanging is a pretty common, straightforward method. Just painful and you would need to make sure no one finds you in time.

 

[babouflo201223]

J'avais un partenaire pour la pendaison non mortelle, la corde était jetée sur une poutre verticale, à une extrémité le nœud coulant et moi et à l'autre extrémité mon partenaire qui tient l'autre extrémité jusqu'à ce que je m'évanouisse.

I don't understand that. Everybody here says that full suspension is very painful. You're the first I read saying it's not.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

I don't understand that. Everybody here says that full suspension is very painful. You're the first I read saying it's not.

As I mentioned above, it is only painful if the rope is to thin. I experimented with several ropes and belts untill I found a suitable one.

 

[Marco77]

As I mentioned above, it is only painful if the rope is to thin. I experimented with several ropes and belts untill I found a suitable one.

Did you manage to lose consciousness?

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Did you manage to lose consciousness?

Yes, reproducible within 5 to 15 seconds. I know the exact time from my videos.

 

[Marco77]

Yes, reproducible within 5 to 15 seconds. I know the exact time from my videos.

And then how long after do you regain consciousness?

 

[qw3rty259]

Here are a few (some) goodbye threads from users who reported hanging as their method who have not been seen since: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10]

Thank you! I find some of those thoughts relatable and I liked the most the seventh thread. I'm glad the user described how they planned to do it in details. It actually answered one of my questions about hanging and seems real.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

And then how long after do you regain consciousness?

In average within 20 seconds.

 

[qw3rty259]

No, full suspension.

May i ask you where do you place the rope, under or above your Adam's apple?

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

May i ask you where do you place the rope, under or above your Adam's apple?

Above, it slips automatically under the chin.

 

[babouflo201223]

J'avais un partenaire pour la pendaison non mortelle, la corde était jetée sur une poutre verticale, à une extrémité le nœud coulant et moi et à l'autre extrémité mon partenaire qui tient l'autre extrémité jusqu'à

Oui, reproductible en 5 à 15 secondes. Je connais le temps exact grâce à mes vidéos.

Yes, but you said that it was a not constrictive knot if I'm right (or bad translation, in this case, sorry) ? Maybe it's why it's painless, it doesn't crash your trachea, etc. But I wonder how you do with the vomiting reflex. I've just had experience with that and it's why I failed.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Yes, but you said that it was a not constrictive knot if I'm right (or bad translation, in this case, sorry) ? Maybe it's why it's painless, it doesn't crash your trachea, etc. But I wonder how you do with the vomiting reflex. I've just had experience with that and it's why I failed.

The noose did not constrict, this is important if you want to survive the hanging. Due to the friction in the knot it might be difficult to loosen the noose.
Another effect is, that there is less pressure on the neck if the noose is not constricting, the pressure is maximum halved (simpel geometric relation).

I never experienced a force against my trachea not any vomiting reflex.