Are people serious on here or wasting their time?

[yellothere]

I just need a way out. I need something ASAP for a peaceful death... SN may not be peaceful enough. I would prefer N or F?
I really just want help before I forget.
But it seems many people discussing obtaining things for a peaceful suicide aren't actually seriously trying to die.
Do people just want to make friends? Because this isn't a good place. I don't think making friends with people actively trying to commit s*ui*c*e is actually helpful for making friends l, nor is it good for your well-being to know people or aid people in trying to say goodbye.

I almost feel that people are much more likely to help you obtain what you need or give info on finding things if you are their friends? Am I wrong? I am a friendly person, but not looking for friends here. I just want support in my choice.

If I had more money and a long term place (couch surfing at the moment) I would have orders and tested SN, but I can't risk ordering some thing where I have to test it and compromise it or have to get it shipped in a month.

I sometimes get the feeling that people aren't serious about it. If so why be on here so long ? Could be wrong?

 

[Flippy]

I'm not in desperate rush right now. I will wait until I'm good and ready. I won't keep to someone else's arbitrary schedule. There are things I've got to set straight first.

If someone makes friends on here and lives to a ripe old age and dies of natural causes, that's fine by me.

This is a site to discuss suicide, it's not a competition to see who can do it the quickest.

You can change your mind often but you can't change dead.

 

[Snake of Eden]

i personally have nowhere else to go to find like minded people who are suicidal like myself and experiencing similar things as I do. Wether I am serious about it or not doesnt constrain me from using this website for other uses other than seeking a method. Thats just one of its uses.

 

[Deleted member 8975]

If you don't want to participate in discussions, you can browse the thread without making an account. There are also websites that teach how to ctb without a forum at all. Participation is not required…nor is bashing how people spend their time appropriate.

 

[ClownMe]

There's more to this forum than just researching suicide methods. If that was the only component then making an account would be effectively pointless.

As for people not being serious about committing suicide, some people don't want to ctb right away, take me for example, im serious about ctb in the future but im waiting for my dog to pass away before I do as I don't want him to suffer.

 

[motel rooms]

Do people just want to make friends? Because this isn't a good place. I don't think making friends with people actively trying to commit s*ui*c*e is actually helpful for making friends l, nor is it good for your well-being to know people or aid people in trying to say goodbye.

Your post is incoherent & just plain weird.

You don't think that making friends is actually helpful for making friends? It's unhealthy for suicidal people to make friends with other suicidal people?

 

[Deleted member 8975]

Your post is incoherent & just plain weird.

You don't think that making friends is actually helpful for making friends? It's unhealthy for suicidal people to make friends with other suicidal people?

It's going in the direction of what many of my therapists have done to me: oh you're all alone and don't want to be? Know the cure? BE ISOLATED. You'd traumatize anyone you opened up to about all of this and you'd be a burden. Yeah that's great…but don't kill myself. But don't be cured. But…it's a whole bunch of hypocritical nonsense :p

 

[Under The Graveyard]

You need to remember that for some of us, the people we have as friends on here, these friends are all we have.

In real life, I have no one... no friends or family. I am on my own out here.

 

[Flippy]

Your post is incoherent & just plain weird.

You don't think that making friends is actually helpful for making friends? It's unhealthy for suicidal people to make friends with other suicidal people?

Just have to say! That GIF is awesome! If I could I would get it tattooed on my forehead. Seems like it would come in handy! Shame that we don't have animated tattoo technology :-(

 

[bluesrock]

I get what you're saying, how it can be so many active users if the ultimate goal is to die? Well, many here already attempted unsuccessfully sometimes couple times. I never thought that I had strong survival instincts until I had to actually attempt the methods and then you realize that it's not that easy. It takes planning and preparing.

 

[Myono93]

If you are here to research means to kill yourself then go for it. It's your life and therefore your decision. It's great that these resources are available for those who need them. That said not everyone is here for that reason.

Many have recurring suicidal thoughts and intense feelings of hopelessness. If they were to speak to friends or family they might be dismissed or ridiculed. Thoughts of killing yourself are generally considered completely irrational and indicative of mental illness. Rights can be stripped and people locked away once they've been labeled crazy.

So people use this forum for different things. I mostly browse to remind myself I'm not alone and that I'm not (necessarily) some mental case who should be thrown in a cell by quacks who claim to help people but never actually do.

Do what's best for you. Others can do what's best for them. The recovery section is proof this isn't just about learning how to kill yourself but generally a place for suicidal people.

 

[cooldude420]

people here give hope when me in dark dark place. there people here who yu share the worst of yoou and they wull give you hope. help me to live,,,,evn when i dont want to

 

[eryu]

I think a lot of us still have shreds of hope and vaguely imagine if can get better. Even if we rationally know it won't, the "it gets better" conditioning is still sunk deeply into us.
Also, it seems lots of people procrastinate suicide for various reasons. Obligations, wanting to tie up loose ends and also just terror of the process itself.

In the meantime people know they're not going to be doing it as soon as they'd like so they continue to make connections which may make the pain easier to bear and perhaps help them build the strength to finally follow through. I can see how it might be undesirable for many people though. You don't want to get attached to anyone and make yourself more reluctant to leave or let yourself in for more pain when they die. And I guess it could be tricky having a friendship with another person with a lot of pain and trauma. Ideally two such people support each other but many get tangled and hurt each other.

RE: the thing about people mainly just helping out their friends, I guess people do that everywhere to some extent.
I don't get the impression that people are deliberately withholding general info. Maybe they're more likely to write helpful, informative replies to someone they've taken a liking too but people also do this for threads that just catch their interest without necessarily knowing anything about the person.

 

[Hurt]

Me too. I want to exit this world. I'm done. Everyday same shit for years it's been like this. Sometimes I have a little hope but it doesn't last much.

 

[dyingalone123]

If you are here to research means to kill yourself then go for it. It's your life and therefore your decision. It's great that these resources are available for those who need them. That said not everyone is here for that reason.

Many have recurring suicidal thoughts and intense feelings of hopelessness. If they were to speak to friends or family they might be dismissed or ridiculed. Thoughts of killing yourself are generally considered completely irrational and indicative of mental illness. Rights can be stripped and people locked away once they've been labeled crazy.

So people use this forum for different things. I mostly browse to remind myself I'm not alone and that I'm not (necessarily) some mental case who should be thrown in a cell by quacks who claim to help people but never actually do.

Do what's best for you. Others can do what's best for them. The recovery section is proof this isn't just about learning how to kill yourself but generally a place for suicidal people.

Totally agree with this. I made the honest mistake of telling my parents and PsyD - they all dismissed me as crazy. I had fcking THOUGHTS and hopelessness. I was completely normal before this shit happened to me. It's a safe space here for us.

 

[motel rooms]

But it seems many people discussing obtaining things for a peaceful suicide aren't actually seriously trying to die.

I almost feel that people are much more likely to help you obtain what you need or give info on finding things if you are their friends? Am I wrong? I am a friendly person, but not looking for friends here.

Here's my cockamamie theory:
You've figured out that SS members are much more likely to help you obtain N or SN if you make friends with them, so you've decided to announce that you're not looking for any friends on here because you aren't actually serious about wanting to ctb!

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Why can't it be both? I know for a fact that I seriously intend to die next year which means I don't have to take anything else that happens seriously until then. I already know how I'm gonna do it since I have my own SN and at this point I'm just biding my time and trying to enjoy my last moments while finishing off my suicide note.

 

[Hurt]

I will kill myself some time in the future. Today I'm feeling suicide. I WANT to die. But it's not likely I'm doing soon. Maybe I have a better chance or a better method in the future. But if I die these days is OK. Life sucks for me.

 

[newave3]

I guess I better jump off the roof of my building this week. Don't want anyone to get the notion I'm not serious about killing myself.

 

[SleepDealer]

Suicide is not always the first thing on a suicidal person's agenda, and many of us have reasons we can't go right away. In my case, I have a certain reputation that makes it difficult for me to get my hands on anything that could be lethal, and I'm rarely left alone long enough to make an attempt. I'm still here but I have made a few attempts along the way. I'm pretty serious about ending it.

I think there are people here who want to recover too, hence the recovery section. Not everyone here is looking to die right away - or at all - but it absolutely helps to be around people who actually understand the struggle of living life with constant depression and suicidal thoughts. SS offers a unique community for those of us who struggle with things that most people can't seem to wrap their head around.

It's different from the suicide subs on Reddit where dozens of people post 5 page essays of their struggles every day, only to get a few comments saying "same" or "it gets better" if any comments at all. Those places are low engagement, boring, and offer little to nothing except somewhere to vent. I'd say it's not even a step above writing in a journal. No one talks about anything else, either. Not to mention the whole issue with pro-suicide stuff.

Here, we are allowed to be our whole and complete selves - complex human beings who fluctuate between many emotions and have countless things on our mind beyond just suicide. We're free to talk about our crushing existential dread in one post, and then move on and talk about how much we like dogs in the next - and we get to be the same person while we do it. No need to make a separate account for the depression shit, lest everyone we know find out we're suicidal and risk tarnishing relationships or getting hauled away to a hospital.

We can also form connections and enjoy them while they last, knowing and accepting that they may not last forever. There is no pressure to pretend we're okay, no need to come up with excuses as to why we might disappear one day. In fact, I can't think of anywhere else I can form such genuine bonds. In almost any other corner of the internet, I have no choice but to be dishonest. Nowhere else can I make a friend to whom I can safely say goodbye.

Also... I just fucking hate shit like 7 Cups.

 

[lonerclown666]

I am serious

 

[wanttodie]

I will kill myself some time in the future I am vary serious

 

[LastLoveLetter]

Does it matter?

If someone is suicidal, isolated and wishes to befriend like-minded individuals on a site that does not censor suicidality, report members to emergency services or bombard people with platitudes, let them. I find it heartwarming that some members develop genuine, mutually supportive connections here, which they may palpably lack in their personal lives. These relationships can be a tremendous source of comfort during an otherwise isolating and excruciating existence.

It does not bother me at all if some people are not "serious" about killing themselves. If anything, I am pleased for those who want to live and are able to recover, but respect everyone's autonomy regardless of what choice they make. I believe everyone should have that right to decide for themselves, and support that choice either way without attempting to influence or judge anyone.

Having said this, not dying as early as possible does not mean someone is not "seriously" suicidal. It certainly does not mean they are wasting their time, or anyone else's for that matter. Chronic suicidality exists, which can ebb and flow. Survival instinct exists. Situations that do not make death an imminent option exist. Suicidality is a spectrum, emotions fluctuate and life circumstances change.

Some of us know that we will definitely take our lives someday. Some may not know for sure just yet. Some may hope to recover, but keep suicide as an option. And there are stages in between.

Speaking personally, I know that my suicide is inevitable. It is a matter of when, not if. My illnesses are incurable and my quality of life consistently continues to deteriorate. It is the only humane option I have left.

However, SS has - perhaps ironically - prolonged my life. Without this community, I suspect I would have died by now but in terrifying, excruciating circumstances due to resorting to a painful and potentially unreliable method. Worse yet, I could have failed another attempt with dire consequences.

This place has provided a boost to keep me going a little longer, as well as the resources to ensure I die reliably (and - hopefully - somewhat peacefully). I have my SN. It is there when I am ready to go, which is a weight lifted off my shoulders. The solidarity and support here has provided me with some strength, in the knowledge that I have the means to die when my moment arrives.

SS is unique in that it is both a source of information and a community. Both aspects are highly valuable. There is nowhere else like this.

Whatever position a person is in, wherever they find themselves and whichever approach they find most useful in navigating this site, all are acceptable.

No-one has to die quickly - or at all - to be welcome here.

 

[OnlyTheWind]

 

[newave3]

Does it matter?

If someone is suicidal, isolated and wishes to befriend like-minded individuals on a site that does not censor suicidality, report members to emergency services or bombard people with platitudes, let them. I find it heartwarming that some members develop genuine, mutually supportive connections here, which they may palpably lack in their personal lives. These relationships can be a tremendous source of comfort during an otherwise isolating and excruciating existence.

It does not bother me at all if some people are not "serious" about killing themselves. If anything, I am pleased for those who want to live and are able to recover, but respect everyone's autonomy regardless of what choice they make. I believe everyone should have that right to decide for themselves, and support that choice either way without attempting to influence or judge anyone.

Having said this, not dying as early as possible does not mean someone is not "seriously" suicidal. It certainly does not mean they are wasting their time, or anyone else's for that matter. Chronic suicidality exists, which can ebb and flow. Survival instinct exists. Situations that do not make death an imminent option exist. Suicidality is a spectrum, emotions fluctuate and life circumstances change.

Some of us know that we will definitely take our lives someday. Some may not know for sure just yet. Some may hope to recover, but keep suicide as an option. And there are stages in between.

Speaking personally, I know that my suicide is inevitable. It is a matter of when, not if. My illnesses are incurable and my quality of life consistently continues to deteriorate. It is the only humane option I have left.

However, SS has - perhaps ironically - prolonged my life. Without this community, I suspect I would have died by now but in terrifying, excruciating circumstances due to resorting to a painful and potentially unreliable method. Worse yet, I could have failed another attempt with dire consequences.

This place has provided a boost to keep me going a little longer, as well as the resources to ensure I die reliably (and - hopefully - somewhat peacefully). I have my SN. It is there when I am ready to go, which is a weight lifted off my shoulders. The solidarity and support here has provided me with some strength, in the knowledge that I have the means to die when my moment arrives.

SS is unique in that it is both a source of information and a community. Both aspects are highly valuable. There is nowhere else like this.

Whatever position a person is in, wherever they find themselves and whichever approach they find most useful in navigating this site, all are acceptable.

No-one has to die quickly - or at all - to be welcome here.

This response is a tour de force. Well written, insightful and speaks to the matter so eloquently.

 

[Hurt]

I want to know about methods. And the more I know the less chance of failing my attempt. First time will be the last.

 

[yellothere]

Here's my cockamamie theory:
You've figured out that SS members are much more likely to help you obtain N or SN if you make friends with them, so you've decided to announce that you're not looking for any friends on here because you aren't actually serious about wanting to ctb!

That is funny!!! I am just looking to have options. I prefer to make friends with people I can hang out with, or at least people on Reddit or private FB groups I can make friends with.
I am looking for an option ASAP, so if I were looking for someone to talk to, it would seem weird to make fiends knowing I am not planning on sticking around. I am surprised all the people that seem to know each other discussing how to execute methods

I guess I better jump off the roof of my building this week. Don't want anyone to get the notion I'm not serious about killing myself.

Haven't seen you repeatedly post about buying or obtaining ctb drugs...

View attachment 75185

No. But my life is.
I

You need to remember that for some of us, the people we have as friends on here, these friends are all we have.

In real life, I have no one... no friends or family. I am on my own out here.

I hope you talk about fun things sometimes too, and not just how to ctb. It would be nice for you to get your mind off things. I text people I know in RL, but not going to tell them my serious issues. It is too late to help me with them now, it would have been nice before to talk to people before I made friends then grew apart. I didn't know about stuff in like 2007/8 when I needed it.

Your post is incoherent & just plain weird.

You don't think that making friends is actually helpful for making friends? It's unhealthy for suicidal people to make friends with other suicidal people?

I see people taking in the recovery section or chats. That seems good. It just seems hard to discuss methods and base friendship around that or Make friends knowing someone is actively planning. I don't think there is anything wrong with making friends with other people struggling. It can be hard to find people that understand mental health. Many people also seem to be autistic. I hope they can discuss positive things, like shared interests as well.

I am just surprised that people are looking into methods and talking about how to execute them . Everyone talking about buying N or SN seems to know each other....

I feel like an outsider trying to get info. I am surprised there seems to be a long history...

i personally have nowhere else to go to find like minded people who are suicidal like myself and experiencing similar things as I do. Wether I am serious about it or not doesnt constrain me from using this website for other uses other than seeking a method. Thats just one of its uses.

It would seem like self torture to think of methods and painstakingly plan it out and imagine all the details if you aren't 100% ready.

I would have drive myself crazy looking it up and worrying all the times I was sad and suicidal before (many times, it was always very brief.. I'd be over it after a few hours)

 

[odradek]

I just need a way out. I need something ASAP for a peaceful death... SN may not be peaceful enough. I would prefer N or F?
I really just want help before I forget.
But it seems many people discussing obtaining things for a peaceful suicide aren't actually seriously trying to die.
Do people just want to make friends? Because this isn't a good place. I don't think making friends with people actively trying to commit s*ui*c*e is actually helpful for making friends l, nor is it good for your well-being to know people or aid people in trying to say goodbye.

I almost feel that people are much more likely to help you obtain what you need or give info on finding things if you are their friends? Am I wrong? I am a friendly person, but not looking for friends here. I just want support in my choice.

If I had more money and a long term place (couch surfing at the moment) I would have orders and tested SN, but I can't risk ordering some thing where I have to test it and compromise it or have to get it shipped in a month.

I sometimes get the feeling that people aren't serious about it. If so why be on here so long ? Could be wrong?

This is an oddly judgemental post. No one is trying to define your experience on here. I'd advise you to return the favour. Or maybe you could lay out in clear terms how were supposed to act and when we're supposed to kill ourselves so we know?

I'm sorry you're in so much pain, I can relate. Maybe try relating with others rather then making judgments. You don't have to make any friends if you don't want to. Good start though if that's your goal.

 

[yellothere]

Does it matter?

If someone is suicidal, isolated and wishes to befriend like-minded individuals on a site that does not censor suicidality, report members to emergency services or bombard people with platitudes, let them. I find it heartwarming that some members develop genuine, mutually supportive connections here, which they may palpably lack in their personal lives. These relationships can be a tremendous source of comfort during an otherwise isolating and excruciating existence.

It does not bother me at all if some people are not "serious" about killing themselves. If anything, I am pleased for those who want to live and are able to recover, but respect everyone's autonomy regardless of what choice they make. I believe everyone should have that right to decide for themselves, and support that choice either way without attempting to influence or judge anyone.

Having said this, not dying as early as possible does not mean someone is not "seriously" suicidal. It certainly does not mean they are wasting their time, or anyone else's for that matter. Chronic suicidality exists, which can ebb and flow. Survival instinct exists. Situations that do not make death an imminent option exist. Suicidality is a spectrum, emotions fluctuate and life circumstances change.

Some of us know that we will definitely take our lives someday. Some may not know for sure just yet. Some may hope to recover, but keep suicide as an option. And there are stages in between.

Speaking personally, I know that my suicide is inevitable. It is a matter of when, not if. My illnesses are incurable and my quality of life consistently continues to deteriorate. It is the only humane option I have left.

However, SS has - perhaps ironically - prolonged my life. Without this community, I suspect I would have died by now but in terrifying, excruciating circumstances due to resorting to a painful and potentially unreliable method. Worse yet, I could have failed another attempt with dire consequences.

This place has provided a boost to keep me going a little longer, as well as the resources to ensure I die reliably (and - hopefully - somewhat peacefully). I have my SN. It is there when I am ready to go, which is a weight lifted off my shoulders. The solidarity and support here has provided me with some strength, in the knowledge that I have the means to die when my moment arrives.

SS is unique in that it is both a source of information and a community. Both aspects are highly valuable. There is nowhere else like this.

Whatever position a person is in, wherever they find themselves and whichever approach they find most useful in navigating this site, all are acceptable.

No-one has to die quickly - or at all - to be welcome here.

I am sorry that life is that hard. I hope you try not to think of death and enjoy what good things you have in common.

it is agonizing to think of your death and plan it. Hopefully you don't think too much about it unless you are ready. I hope you have nice things that bring happiness to discuss and people vent to.

thinking of getting things go in a peaceful way is stressful. Just reading about my hands Turning blue or my body feeling cold made me shake with severe tremors the other day. The stress of trying to find a peace way only makes me more likely to ctb.

This is an oddly judgemental post. No one is trying to define your experience on here. I'd advise you to return the favour. Or maybe you could lay out in clear terms how were supposed to act and when we're supposed to kill ourselves so we know?

I'm sorry you're in so much pain, I can relate. Maybe try relating with others rather then making judgments. You don't have to make any friends if you don't want to. Good start though if that's your goal.

It's not a goal. I am sorry. I enjoyed the friend I had in RL that I lost. I can't fix my mistakes. I only have regret.

I hope those that aren't planning to execute it right away don't think too much of how to do it. It made me shake with tremors the other day so bad and turn cold. I wouldn't consider methods and make myself sick if I wasn't very serious. Suicide letters have been written for a long time. Gave it a chance and it didn't work out.

 

[motel rooms]

I am looking for an option ASAP, so if I were looking for someone to talk to, it would seem weird to make fiends knowing I am not planning on sticking around. I am surprised all the people that seem to know each other discussing how to execute methods

I am just surprised that people are looking into methods and talking about how to execute them . Everyone talking about buying N or SN seems to know each other....

I feel like an outsider trying to get info. I am surprised there seems to be a long history...

You're wrong about that... The fact that members are polite/friendly when they interact doesn't mean that they've known each other for ages...