snowcloud9
I’m Cold
- Sep 9, 2023
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Edited, I meant ctb. Either way I have no life experience cuz I'm an adult but nobody I know diedCould you clarify a little? Most people who have reached adulthood have known someone or other who died. Are you talking about deaths that were really impactful, life-changing losses? Or specifically about people who died by suicide? Or both? Or something else?
For me, the note felt insulting. All these years of me trying to make him happy and proud just gone to shit. All he wrote was instructions on where to go (which was to return back to my abusive home), a simple "I'm sorry", and a "I hope God accepts me with open arms."I'm just very curious and don't answer if you don't want to: why did you hate the note. My father shot himself in the head when I was small, I'm middle aged now, but I wish I had known of a note or was able to see it.
For me, the note felt insulting. All these years of me trying to make him happy and proud just gone to shit. All he wrote was instructions on where to go (which was to return back to my abusive home), a simple "I'm sorry", and a "I hope God accepts me with open arms."
Truthfully, I am pro-choice when it comes to CTB. However, i believe that if you're a parent of a child that you full heartedly chose to raise and bring into this world, it is incredibly disrespectful to your child to leave them when they need you the most.
I don't know, I'm probably biased. That's just my stance.Str
Strictly speaking it is wrong of a parent to inflict this on their child, butFor me, the note felt insulting. All these years of me trying to make him happy and proud just gone to shit. All he wrote was instructions on where to go (which was to return back to my abusive home), a simple "I'm sorry", and a "I hope God accepts me with open arms."
Truthfully, I am pro-choice when it comes to CTB. However, i believe that if you're a parent of a child that you full heartedly chose to raise and bring into this world, it is incredibly disrespectful to your child to leave them when they need you the most.
I don't know, I'm probably biased. That's just my stance.
I appreciate your stance on this, and your response. I guess for me, though I was much younger than you, I felt saddened that my dad was feeling so much despair that he had to resort to that. I guess it's important to remember that most of us considering suicide are sufferers of some degree of mental illness, or at the very least, dealing with what seems to be insurmountable problems.For me, the note felt insulting. All these years of me trying to make him happy and proud just gone to shit. All he wrote was instructions on where to go (which was to return back to my abusive home), a simple "I'm sorry", and a "I hope God accepts me with open arms."
Truthfully, I am pro-choice when it comes to CTB. However, i believe that if you're a parent of a child that you full heartedly chose to raise and bring into this world, it is incredibly disrespectful to your child to leave them when they need you the most.
I don't know, I'm probably biased. That's just my stance.
I'm just… so confused by this. Don't people go back to normal like after a week it happened and only grieve silently or in small passing moments? That's how I imagine it in my head. I can't imagine my friends being affected for too long even though I know they care about me. What changed?my classmate ctb about 6 years ago. i wanted to ctb at that time too because i ddint want to go to high school and then i couldnt do it because i saw what it did to my classmates and the school.
If someone kills themselves they are driving a stake right through the hearts of everyone who loves them. I'm not suggesting that should stop someone form CTB if that is what is right for them to do. It certainly isn't stopping me. But that's the truth and it's a pain that doesn't ever really fully resolve, certainly not after a week.I'm just… so confused by this. Don't people go back to normal like after a week it happened and only grieve silently or in small passing moments? That's how I imagine it in my head. I can't imagine my friends being affected for too long even though I know they care about me. What changed?
I agree with your stance here. Putting my emotions to the side, the only thing I really strictly believe is that parents who CTB should know that your kids will be safe without you.Strictly speaking it is wrong of a parent to inflict this on their child, but
in reality if someone is suffering so badly I'm not sure they have much choice. I think your Dad should have been very careful in his note. I'm sure a well written note can give a bit of comfort.
A very good friend of mine hung himself 8 years ago. He was 63 and had 3 children and 2 grandchildren. He was very ill with depression and anxiety - in mental torture. I talked on the phone to him about ten days before and although he was very ill it didn't occur to me he might take his life.
I was very distressed by his death. I know his family were devastated.
A few weeks after the funeral something very strange happened and was, I believe, an indication that J was at peace.
That resentment is completely normal, too. I struggle to continue each day without him, as he was my "safe" person. I've also learned a lot about myself without him, which is the silver lining in all of this.I appreciate your stance on this, and your response. I guess for me, though I was much younger than you, I felt saddened that my dad was feeling so much despair that he had to resort to that. I guess it's important to remember that most of us considering suicide are sufferers of some degree of mental illness, or at the very least, dealing with what seems to be insurmountable problems.
And at the risk of being completely contrary to what I just said, I really resented him at times for leaving me here.
My father died 39 years ago. You always feel the loss, you wonder how might things had turned out otherwise, some even blame themselves for not realizing their loved one was hurting so badly, for not doing more to help that person.I'm just… so confused by this. Don't people go back to normal like after a week it happened and only grieve silently or in small passing moments? That's how I imagine it in my head. I can't imagine my friends being affected for too long even though I know they care about me. What changed?
I know 3 ppl who did: someone from my high school and 2 ppl from my college. I didn't know them personally but I guess it was sadHow long ago and how do you feel now?
i knew one person who ctb'd and to be honest it's a really hard one to process though now that i'm suicidal i have a larger perspective of it. he was a friend of a friend and slowly becoming my friend too. couple months later i talked to my friend and asked if they're coming to my town in the near future and my friend said that "i'm coming next week i'll go visit (his friend's) grave" and i just thought it was a nickname to his apartment or something. turns out he had ctb'd couple months back. couple years later i met his mother and brother with my friend and yeah... i'm definitely leaving a well thought out letter to all of my loved ones so they can find some closure. it kept from ctb'ing for a couple years but here i am. i often find myself thinking about him now that i'm getting really close to ctb'ing and have thought out a plan for it. i think that we had a lot of similarities and sadly didn't have time to talk about them but the time will come and maybe soon we'll watch over our friend together.How long ago and how do you feel now?
with my class slash school being the way it was, we didnt have class for a week, we had a funeral and some therapist person talked to us. after the shock and things calmed down (after one month) things started to resume, but we felt a bit more down for the whole year. a lot of crying from kids, teachers, principle and it breaks your heart. the sadness just piles up and yeah.I'm just… so confused by this. Don't people go back to normal like after a week it happened and only grieve silently or in small passing moments? That's how I imagine it in my head. I can't imagine my friends being affected for too long even though I know they care about me. What changed?
Yes, I had imagined being given this treatment as well. I thought everyone in my circle would just hear it and move on.A popular kid killed themselves at my highschool. I think all teachers announced to each of their own classes about it. There were students and teachers crying, but the next day everything went to normal. I think about them a lot, though those thoughts have faded out quite a bit. I used to think about them to make me feel sad, when I just wanted to feel something, or when I wanted to really think about how my suicide would affect others, like how even when the popular kid kills themselves people still have to move on with their lives the next day. Can't wallow, at least in public, forever, of course, I guess. Their parents posted a memorial on the kid's Instagram and people still comment on it every now and then to mourn.
I remember that day pretty vividly. It was raining, and the air was full of the haunting smell of rain (which is something I'll probably definitely miss when/if I CTB) and lovely to breathe but also hard to breathe because of all the sadness in the air of course. I remember going for a walk around night and taking in the rain and the smells and all the puddles on the asphalt and the streams running along the side walk and how they glew yellow under the streetlights and some puddles were super dark and I stared at them and felt like I was staring into a void, or some melted black angel eyes, as corny or flowery as that may sound. I wrote an entry about it in my diary and I remember trying to romanticize that day to try to make it make sense or mean something.
Another kid killed themselves the year after that, but they were far less popular and no one cried, at least in my classes. No personal announcements from the teacher, it was just glazed over in the announcements on the speakers, a quick moment of silence, and everyone moved on.
I feel some combination of acceptance and indifference and gray-blue sadness or melancholy (sorry, it's hard for me to describe emotions) whenever I think about them. It's like: Oh, they're gone now. Those bodies of consciousness cease to exist. Pain doesn't exist for them anymore just as much as peace. At least that's the very cold cerebral kind of rationalization to it all. Their bodies are rotting in their coffins, or cremated in jars. How did they go out? Gun, noose, overdose? Was it quick? All those kinds of thoughts. Knowing these kinds of questions can be a bit intrusive or disrespectful, but morbid curiosity gets the better of a lot of us of course. And I think real sappy self-pitying stuff like, I wish I gave both of them a warm hug and told them I was sorry. Don't know about what. Yeah, I miss them even though I never actually knew them. It's so complicated and shallow at the same time.
Does it bother you? How does it make you feel ? I have been wondering the same thing seeking a sense of perspectiveYes, I had imagined being given this treatment as well. I thought everyone in my circle would just hear it and move on.
How did that affect your views on suicide? Was this recently?I didn't know him but I saw a guy deliberately slam into a huge tree to ctb, it happened right in front of me as I was driving down the street. I pulled over and ran over to where he was smashed into the tree in his van. He was deceased, slumped against the window with the air bag ballooned in front of him, clearly they don't protect everyone.
I read in the local paper his father said "my son committed suicide". I hadn't realized that's what it was. He was 16 and had fought with his father, jumped into his grandmothers van, floored the gas, and slammed into the tree.
Two school friends ctb. One hung herself the other od'ed purposely by Heroin. It was a long time ago now,but still feels like yesterday xHow long ago and how do you feel now?
My insignificance is a little sad, but ultimately this is better because it allows me to do what I want. I wonder if people care more than I think they do and that I subconsciously think they do, but that I tell myself they don't as a way to justify ctbing guilt free.Does it bother you? How does it make you feel ? I have been wondering the same thing seeking a sense of perspective