Anyone here with small kids who are suicidal

[peaceindeath]

How do you feel about leaving behind your kids?

 

[Goukan「強姦」]

It's totally my baised of me to think that but I find it repulsive to do that to young kids. Except if abortion is illegal where you live, you HAVE chosen to have them. My friends dad CTB and left him ans his mom so poor they couldn't eat anything that aren't from food stamps. My dad almost did it leaving me alone with my abusive mom and in poverty. I respect the right of death until it comes to kids you choosed to bring on this awful earth to get hurt by your actions.

If you plan to die. DONT. take care of your children don't bring them into your awful world.

 

[peaceindeath]

It's totally my baised of me to think that but I find it repulsive to do that to young kids. Except if abortion is illegal where you live, you HAVE chosen to have them. My friends dad CTB and left him ans his mom so poor they couldn't eat anything that aren't from food stamps. My dad almost did it leaving me alone with my abusive mom and in poverty. I respect the right of death until it comes to kids you choosed to bring on this awful earth to get hurt by your actions.

If you plan to die. DONT. take care of your children don't bring them into your awful world.

Thx. That's why I don't have the courage to do it. But I can't stop thinking about it.

 

[LastFlowers]

Thx. That's why I don't have the courage to do it. But I can't stop thinking about it.

Yea I have to say, I have the same sort of "exception" thought process as the person you are responding to…when it comes to parents who are suicidal, especially if their children are still in need of them, even adult children can still possess that need.
But at the same time, this doesn't mean you're not suffering to the point that suicide would be the logical conclusion..it's just that when one makes the ultimate decision to bring more life into this world, I think they need to fulfill their responsibility..in possibly dragging people into the same nightmare they so desperately desire to leave themselves.
I think it would take a very specific set of circumstances to justify abandoning your children in that way, although there certainly are people who abandon their kids for far more trivial reasons too, they just run away.
Still, I would not advise following their example.

If your kids were older, I would have suggested being open about it somehow..as dangerous and difficult as that sounds.
Once in awhile there will be scenarios in which adult children will understand and perhaps be in a stable enough position to let their suffering parent go.
But I would never bet on it.

I am very sorry you are struggling, either way.

May I ask..were you suicidal before you had any kids?

 

[GreenTree]

I got a daughter and it kills me thinking about her after I die. I think she's better off with me dead though. I don't want her to feel obliged to care for me later in life.

 

[glitterypearls]

my father died when I was a child, It's not related to suicide but I still as a kid hated him for dying, blamed him of leaving me and whenever I felt sad I wish he would be here to make it better. he died suddenly so I was left on the hands of my mother and other relatives who were abusive mentally, physically and sexually. so my advice if you absolutely can't live anymore. make sure your kid will end up in a safe hand. make sure they won't face such abuse and if you can make sure they have some sort of financial stability and just stability in general. this is why kids suffer a lot when they lose a good parent, because they will face a lot of instability and a lot of abuse without someone protecting them.

 

[peaceindeath]

Your life is no longer your own, so you must live and do your best to ensure your kid suffers as little as possible, you need to put them first.

And don't forget to apologize to them on their birthdays and even educate them about antinatalism, so they don't come on a similar forum and say the same thing in the future.

I think you committed a crime, but you live in times where it goes unpunished.. however, I wish you strength as now you definitely have someone to live for.

One day you'll suffer badly and regret what you wrote

 

[jeton nucleus]

I got a daughter and it kills me thinking about her after I die. I think she's better off with me dead though. I don't want her to feel obliged to care for me later in life.

She isn't better off without you. I lost my dad as a teenager (not to suicide) and I think about it every day. I think about the important moments he has missed and the advice he could have given me. We weren't even that close (since he and mom weren't married) and I've lived with that regret ever since. It's probably the moment that triggered the depression and suicidal ideation I've experienced my entire adult life.

 

[OceanBlue]

One day you'll suffer badly and regret what you wrote

I knew I shouldn't have been nice, but still elaborate, you selfish piece of work

 

[Ambivalent1]

You chose to fill the earth with your brood. Your kids will have kids and those kids will have kids. You have, like all parents, unknowingly spawned a nation. Your penance is to endure until your children are grown up.

 

[peaceindeath]

You chose to fill the earth with your brood. Your kids will have kids and those kids will have kids. You have, like all parents, unknowingly spawned a nation. Your penance is to endure until your children are grown up

I knew I shouldn't have been nice, but still elaborate, you selfish piece of work

True. But I didn't make myself or ask to be made

 

[Challu]

True. But I didn't make myself or ask to be made

You're not going to recieve the validation you want from this thread.

 

[unnormal9]

You're not going to recieve the validation you want from this topic.

Validation from who anyways? What is will that offer, tangibly?

 

[Ambivalent1]

Validation from who anyways? What is will that offer, tangibly?

From us. It would offer validation which doesn't need to be tangible to have an effect.

 

[kinja91]

Yea I have to say, I have the same sort of "exception" thought process as the person you are responding to…when it comes to parents who are suicidal, especially if their children are still in need of them, even adult children can still possess that need.
But at the same time, this doesn't mean you're not suffering to the point that suicide would be the logical conclusion..it's just that when one makes the ultimate decision to bring more life into this world, I think they need to fulfill their responsibility..in possibly dragging people into the same nightmare they so desperately desire to leave themselves.
I think it would take a very specific set of circumstances to justify abandoning your children in that way, although there certainly are people who abandon their kids for far more trivial reasons too, they just run away.
Still, I would not advise following their example.

If your kids were older, I would have suggested being open about it somehow..as dangerous and difficult as that sounds.
Once in awhile there will be scenarios in which adult children will understand and perhaps be in a stable enough position to let their suffering parent go.
But I would never bet on it.

I am very sorry you are struggling, either way.

May I ask..were you suicidal before you had any kids?

What if your a mess and no matter what therapy you try it doesn't change? Some things change but you always end up making another big mistake. Every effort for better is offset by another mistake of equal or worse magnitude. What if you can be a proper parent and influence on their life. Leacing so that your spouse can find better sounds like the better option for the kids and your loved ones as a whole. They need someone solid to fill the role. Like all men.... we're expendable. Replaceable and no one really cares if we succeed or however we suffer. It's only about what we bring ro the table which creates the opportunity for that level of care to begin with.