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ToughLife

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If you got approved by Pegasos since Swiss tightened the rules in May, could you please PM me? Thank you.
 
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befree

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The new guideline is just a guideline and not a new law. Nothing changes at Pegasos. But Pegaos has always been different than the other VAD associations.
 
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I'm curious about Sarco because they claim it non medical
 
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ToughLife

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The new guideline is just a guideline and not a new law. Nothing changes at Pegasos. But Pegaos has always been different than the other VAD associations.
Pegasos uses N as well, since doctors are involved, they have to follow the new guidelines by Swiss Medical Association :(

Like other VAD clinics, Pegasos doesn't accept people without serious illness unless they are old enough (at least 80 or up).
 
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befree

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Pegasos uses N as well, since doctors are involved, they have to follow the new guidelines by Swiss Medical Association :(

Like other VAD clinics, Pegasos doesn't accept people without serious illness unless they are old enough (at least 80 or up).
1. If you don´t believe me and a message from Pegasos, just contact them.
2. You don´t have to be ill at all and you don´t have to be 80 or up.

We had this conversation several times. I´m tired of explaining everything over and over again.
 
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I emailed Pegasos a couple of times about my situation, they didn't even consider me.
 
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I emailed Pegasos a couple of times about my situation, they didn't even consider me.
What do you mean by "didn't even consider me" ? Did you become a member ? Did you apply or did you just ask questions ? Did you read all informations on their website ? If you have questions regarding your application or healh condition, send me a PM.
 
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ToughLife

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They didn't even reply my emails.
Yes, I joined Pegasos.
I emailed them about my situation, explaining what happened and my health issues.
I did read all the information on their website.
 
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befree

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Maybe you used a wrong e-mail provider and they didn´t get your mails. This happens sometimes in Switzerland. If you need help with the application send me a PM.
 
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ToughLife

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@befree:
I used Hotmail. I emailed them a couple months ago using this Hotmail account and they replied me and asked for my details, so there is nothing wrong with email provider. Just PM'd you my emails to Pegasus two weeks ago, please take a look.
 
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befree

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Ok, they need more details. There are often problems with US e-mail providers (hotmail, Gmail...) in Europe, especially in Switzerland. Better use protonmail.com.
I just read your 2 mails to Pegasos and will reply to you by PM.
 
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ToughLife

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I used a different Hotmail account to email Pegasos about different issues and they did reply.
 
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Tortured Existence

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The new guideline is just a guideline and not a new law. Nothing changes at Pegasos. But Pegaos has always been different than the other VAD associations.
Please read the FAQ. Nothing has changed for Pegasos. I know people who are not sick, but suffering who are going there. One of the people is in their 20s.

https://pegasos-association.com/faqs/
 
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Not sick but suffering? Do their medical records show that they are suffering?
 
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befree

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In some cases you don´t need medical records to show them that you are suffering because of something. There are not only medical reasons why a person in full health suffers. (This only applies to Pegasos)
 
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Emailed Pegasus and the are not approving me I'm 30 to young
 
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Tortured Existence

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Emailed Pegasus and the are not approving me I'm 30 to young
You have a debilitating physical condition for which you uploaded medical records in the application, and they said they're not accepting you because of your age?
Hi, do you mean physical suffering without diagnosis? Are they here in the forum? Thanks!
My friend was accepted, and he's in his 20s.
 
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You have a debilitating physical condition for which you uploaded medical records in the application, and they said they're not accepting you because of your age?

My friend was accepted, and he's in his 20s.
20's!! What was wrong with him to get accepted so young?
 
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Tortured Existence

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May 18, 2022
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Not sick but suffering? Do their medical records show that they are suffering?
I haven't seen their medical records and they're not my business. But, I have the same condition they have (among others), and it causes severe suffering.
 
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Seeking_Peace

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May 18, 2022
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You messed up if they are acknowledging your anxiety and depression. They won't touch those with mental illness. NEVER mention mental issues to them. You need to be of sound mind. They aren't taking risks with lawsuits.
 
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Suicidebydeath

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Anyone want to give me help with a pegasos application? What I should and shouldn't write? In private. I'm also in the chat room sometimes.
 
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karel1987

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You messed up if they are acknowledging your anxiety and depression. They won't touch those with mental illness. NEVER mention mental issues to them. You need to be of sound mind. They aren't taking risks with lawsuits.
Yeah but what should I say then that I'm a schizophrenic and then they say come over and my medical files don't show my diagnosis
 
befree

befree

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Mar 22, 2022
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Anyone want to give me help with a pegasos application? What I should and shouldn't write? In private. I'm also in the chat room sometimes.
Send me a PM (no chat !) if you want.
 
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karel1987

Student
Dec 29, 2020
114
I don't understand. You can't just write stuff, it must be backed up by medicale data. So how can a other help you with this
 
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ToughLife

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Oct 24, 2021
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Finally got some clarification from Pegasos, they don't accept healthy people at the age of late 50s:
 

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I have schizoaffective disorder and have been hospitalized 9 times. Pegasos wants medical records but I don't have anything. The hospitals didn't really hand out medical diagnosis before leaving.
 
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ToughLife

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Oct 24, 2021
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Can you request health records from hospitals? Most hospitals have health information department. I don't think Pegasos accepts people with schizoaffective disorder though.
 
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Euthanza

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Jun 9, 2022
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Did you say in your email that you're "healthy" but would like VAD? If you're in good health and just tired of living, then you wouldn't qualify. Their FAQ covers all of that.

If one has medical issues, (even if they may seem small to some) that are causing a poor quality of life, they will accept you if you have medical records with your condition(s). Anyone over 18 can apply, and I have a friend in their 20s who's been accepted.

Yes, they asked for "serious medical condition".
 

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