Anyone else think Exit International having a Black Friday sale is pretty fucking tasteless?

[Koppite]

I get that it's a business, but do they have to be quite so openly mercantile about the whole thing? I mean Black Friday is already tacky af - and that's just if you're selling TVs etc. Maybe I'm overreacting, but to me it's akin to a hospital having a BF sale on cancer treatment or a therapist doing special BF 'deals' on cheap therapy.

Can't we have 'Dying with dignity' but also 'advocating voluntary euthanasia with a bit of fucking dignity too'?

 

[jodes2]

That is fucking disgusting

 

[Pluto]

I fear this could lead to some really bad puns.

 

[Rounded Agony]

The Mask = E.I.
Woman shaking her head in disbelief = us.

 

[Chinaski]

Yes it is but Exit have been pretty fucking tasteless about everything they do for a long time, its primary motive is to keep the cash coming in for PN, a man l wouldn't personally trust as far as l could throw.

 

[TimetoGo!]

I get that it's a business, but do they have to be quite so openly mercantile about the whole thing? I mean Black Friday is already tacky af - and that's just if you're selling TVs etc. Maybe I'm overreacting, but to me it's akin to a hospital having a BF sale on cancer treatment or a therapist doing special BF 'deals' on cheap therapy.

Can't we have 'Dying with dignity' but also 'advocating voluntary euthanasia with a bit of fucking dignity too'?

have you got the link for this discount? Im in

Yes it is but Exit have been pretty fucking tasteless about everything they do for a long time, its primary motive is to keep the cash coming in for PN, a man l wouldn't personally trust as far as l could throw.

dont tell me you would'nt use one of his pods if you had access to it?

 

[Huntfish34]

That's absolutely fucking terrible, and I'm also not surprised in the Least. Sadly it's the world we live in. Such a sick, sad and fckn toxic place. You aren't overreacting at all.

 

[RN12]

I guess everyone likes nice stunt prizes, even the suicidal.

 

[Chinaski]

dont tell me you would'nt use one of his pods if you had access to it?

It is possible to use a product without endorsing the business or personal practices of those who created it.

 

[FuneralCry]

Not really, I mean it could benefit their customers who can get what they need for their suicide at a cheaper price. There's nothing really wrong with this, it may make it easier for people to die, and also death is simply an inevitable and normal part of life. I don't really find it shocking that someone is selling suicide related products, there's nothing wrong with suicide after all, it's a human right even know I'm pretty sure that Exit international is aimed at 50+, like do they not know that people younger than that suffer.

 

[BipolarExpress]

It's extremely tacky. But then again, Exit has always rubbed me the wrong way. (I'm too young to get any help from them, on top of that. There are people under 50 who are tired of life, too, PN!)

 

[dreambound]

no i don't think its tasteless, its a good tactic , applying societies acceptable strategies on a 'forbidden' subject.
What IS tasteless is pro-life groups using their substantial wealth & influence in government policies regarding
end of life choice, or rather 'end of life no choice' denying suffering people's requests for medical assistance in dying.

In a certain country they have 67 safety clauses in their bullshit euthanasia legilation, you have to be dead for
6 months before you even qualify.... (excuse the slight exageration)..............switzerland has 2 safety clauses....

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I guess accepting a 20% off coupon would be out of the question then, too?

 

[toasterbath]

it's pretty comical but not surprising. everything is a business in this dystopian world.

 

[TAW122]

Not really, I mean it could benefit their customers who can get what they need for their suicide at a cheaper price. There's nothing really wrong with this, it may make it easier for people to die, and also death is simply an inevitable and normal part of life. I don't really find it shocking that someone is selling suicide related products, there's nothing wrong with suicide after all, it's a human right even know I'm pretty sure that Exit international is aimed at 50+, like do they not know that people younger than that suffer.

Yeah, and when I checked out their membership page, it didn't mention that, but under the ToS link it did. Furthermore, what is even more disheartening is the fact that one of their terms is that "you have never been diagnosed with a mental disorder", which would defeat the purpose of their service being provided to people who suffer from psychological issues (or even those with physical issues but also suffer mentally). I think that criteria should be abolished unless it has to do with decision making capacity. Personally, I believe that if one knows what he/she is choosing, is cognizant enough to understand the choice (death), and coherent enough to express one's own wishes, then there should be no reason to restrict or deny the service to someone. (Btw, I am not a doctor or psychiatrist but just speaking from a perspective of logic.)

 

[BipolarExpress]

Yeah, and when I checked out their membership page, it didn't mention that, but under the ToS link it did. Furthermore, what is even more disheartening is the fact that one of their terms is that "you have never been diagnosed with a mental disorder", which would defeat the purpose of their service being provided to people who suffer from psychological issues (or even those with physical issues but also suffer mentally). I think that criteria should be abolished unless it has to do with decision making capacity. Personally, I believe that if one knows what he/she is choosing, is cognizant enough to understand the choice (death), and coherent enough to express one's own wishes, then there should be no reason to restrict or deny the service to someone. (Btw, I am not a doctor or psychiatrist but just speaking from a perspective of logic.)

Exactly. Even if I were above the age cutoff, they'd never let me join because I'm bipolar. Why is it that physical suffering is legitimate enough to provide methods for a peaceful exit, but psychological suffering isn't? They expect meds, therapy, and forced hospitalisation to do all the work. The brain is part of the body, and research has shown that psychological pain affects the same parts of the brain as physical pain. Dealing with my depression is painful. I would like the pain to stop. I'm in therapy and take psych meds, and it's not working. It's time to go.

 

[whatevs]

Somehow it looks degrading and distasteful but... It's lower prices after all. It works.

 

[Tiberius85]

Not at all. They offer a service. It's a fair and valid offer: it's 40% discount for their PPHB. That's an invaluable resource in general (which many people in this forum check out regularly, too; let's not forget).

Their offerings are geared toward older people (you need to be certain age to be able to buy from Exit). Given inflation, energy crisis, I'd say every penny or cent counts for some people in that age cohort more than before. Hence, I find it a fair and valid offer. Nothing tasteless at all.

It's not like they put giant banners up in train stations or advertise in the ad break of a children's program.

 

[disabledlife]

I confirm, Exit International have promotions on Black Friday. It is widely abused, placing death at the center of capitalism, of consumerism. It is clear, to make commercial promotions is to think only of profit, without dignity. Banning people under 50 or the mentally ill from accessing the PPeH and their forums is abused, who can decide if you have the right to die peacefully or not.

Anyone would have the right to CTB, VAD or euthanasia, whatever the reasons, without someone else deciding what is good or bad for them! No one asked to be born after all!

So, according to Exit International, getting out of life's prison is subject to capitalism, in addition to their decisions based on age, disease, etc., regardless of people's suffering!

Thank you pro-lifers for forcing us to fall into the death market, when what we want is the legalization of the right to die everywhere in the world, without conditions!

As in all prisons, only certain prisoners, depending on their health, age and wealth, can escape, what a shitty world!

 

[jackie_boy1337]

I get that it's a business, but do they have to be quite so openly mercantile about the whole thing? I mean Black Friday is already tacky af - and that's just if you're selling TVs etc. Maybe I'm overreacting, but to me it's akin to a hospital having a BF sale on cancer treatment or a therapist doing special BF 'deals' on cheap therapy.

Can't we have 'Dying with dignity' but also 'advocating voluntary euthanasia with a bit of fucking dignity too'?

It's disgusting because of the number of people they turn away.
If they were an all-inclusive organization? I'd give them a little more leeway... but the number of people they leave suffering, in addition to their BF sale is disappointing and disgusting.

 

[Musketeer]

I believe it's really tasteless as well. Yeah it doeslower prices but it really sets the right to die movement back if it gets bad press.

 

[UKscotty]

It's a great idea. They are a business that sells a service, why shouldn't they engage in normal marketing? If it makes it cheaper for people that's a good thing.

We need to normalise adult consent of their own right to die. Its not about good taste or bad taste, its about the fundamental human right to decide what happens to your own body.

 

[Teddybear]

Thx a lot for this pointer. I think I'll do some Christmas shopping now.

I believe it's really tasteless as well. Yeah it doeslower prices but it really sets the right to die movement back if it gets bad press.

They gonna give "us" bad press no matter what. So why care?

 

[actual_fox]

Well It is not tasteless If you like some dark humor.

 

[Csmith8827]

Exactly. Even if I were above the age cutoff, they'd never let me join because I'm bipolar. Why is it that physical suffering is legitimate enough to provide methods for a peaceful exit, but psychological suffering isn't? They expect meds, therapy, and forced hospitalisation to do all the work. The brain is part of the body, and research has shown that psychological pain affects the same parts of the brain as physical pain. Dealing with my depression is painful. I would like the pain to stop. I'm in therapy and take psych meds, and it's not working. It's time to go.

I feel that. Like I'm not exactly dealing with "psychological suffering" but the being or entity that is like talking shit to me in my mind (via voices/ i'm telepathic) is getting just really fucking annoying and I'm tired of it. All it does is talk shit. And its really just disrespectful and evil.

 

[myownpetvirus]

I confirm, Exit International have promotions on Black Friday. It is widely abused, placing death at the center of capitalism, of consumerism. It is clear, to make commercial promotions is to think only of profit, without dignity. Banning people under 50 or the mentally ill from accessing the PPeH and their forums is abused, who can decide if you have the right to die peacefully or not.

Anyone would have the right to CTB, VAD or euthanasia, whatever the reasons, without someone else deciding what is good or bad for them! No one asked to be born after all!

So, according to Exit International, getting out of life's prison is subject to capitalism, in addition to their decisions based on age, disease, etc., regardless of people's suffering!

Thank you pro-lifers for forcing us to fall into the death market, when what we want is the legalization of the right to die everywhere in the world, without conditions!

As in all prisons, only certain prisoners, depending on their health, age and wealth, can escape, what a shitty world!

What about the guy Adam Maier Clayton? He was 27 and got it?

 

[Versailles]

Everything in this fucking life is a business, but see this in a different way, maybe it will help someone with limited resources, but it still feels unpleasant

 

[lukas19]

What about the guy Adam Maier Clayton? He was 27 and got it?

I think Adam ordered Nembutal online because no one would assist him

 

[myownpetvirus]

I think Adam ordered Nembutal online because no one would assist him

He said he was the first member under 50 to be a part of whatever Phillip Nitckshes club is

 

[lukas19]

From the news article i read. ''So Adam purchased Nembutal with the advice of Philip Nitschke, the founder of Final Exit Network. Nitschke spent hours skyping with Adam, trying to coax him to stay alive, to give life one more chance. Adam skyped back for over a year''