Unicr0n

Unicr0n

Stuck in a black hole...
Mar 26, 2024
259
Yes, a few governments have the ability to do that. But why would they bother for people who are merely suicidal, and not a threat to the state? Their resources may be large, but they are still finite, and they can't afford to waste them on unimportant things.
The people that are discussing suicide by cop or other methods that are dangerous to other people definitely pique the interest of the government. There are feds on this site.
 
Timothy7dff

Timothy7dff

Wizard
Apr 10, 2024
661
Everyone's internet activity is being monitored. Doesn't matter if you use TOR or a VPN. These programs have been leaked to the public. Wikileaks. Snowden. Assange. They gather everything. Most people they just monitor. They're certainly not going to act because someone is posting in a suicide forum or purchasing SN. They don't care about that stuff (yet).

When they do act on illegal gathered information, law enforcement uses a technique called "parallel construction". It's really just information laundering and is illegal. If they have data that shows 100 pounds of heroin is coming across the border, they can't just use that information to pull that vehicle over. They have to come up with another excuse to hide the true source of their information. So, they'll pull them over for an illegal turn or something and then say they smelled weed.

The law and order crowd are some of the shadiest (and richest) people on the planet!

They know MUCH more than your internet browsing habits FYI.
 
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Ernest1964

Specialist
Jan 6, 2023
363
Yes, a few governments have the ability to do that. But why would they bother for people who are merely suicidal, and not a threat to the state? Their resources may be large, but they are still finite, and they can't afford to waste them on unimportant things.
I agree 100%. There seem to be so many people here who have an over inflated sense of themselves. Trust me, no one cares about you and what you are doing on this board. You are NOT that important. I am a part of this group, but I do not think that I am so important that THE GOVERNMENT is spending any time watching me. Think about this, how full of yourself does one need to be to believe that anyone is WATCHING YOU?
 
Saturn_

Saturn_

Arcanist
Apr 22, 2024
423
Not anymore, nothing to lose. Besides, I'm only trying to kill myself. Why the fuck should that be anyone else's problem? All the pigs who run this country can go suck it.
 
crystal_meth97

crystal_meth97

Nie mam zamiaru się poddać
May 1, 2024
155
Yes, I sometimes get paranoid, but I try to be rational and remind myself that they wouldn't be interested in what I'm looking at online. What would be the point? I'm not doing anything illegal. I also live in Europe. No one gives a fuck about what an individual does unless it's something major or something that can be a major threat, so I most likely have nothing to worry about. But I understand the paranoia :ahhha:
 
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NoLoveNoHope

NoLoveNoHope

Mage
Mar 25, 2023
565
I take steps to prevent my traffic being monitored like using Tor whenever I make a suicide-related searches. I avoid privacy-invasive services as much as I can so I don't have an facebook, twitter or google account for example and try to use free and open-source software as much as possible like firefox, linux, tor, searxng etc.

I highly doubt anyone would get into trouble for looking anything up. The only way you realistically could get into trouble would be if you said you were going to do it while using a privacy-invasive service such as a Google service. Google has been known to automatically notify the police about suspected child predators and realistically could just use decide one day to also do that with suicidal people.
That's why I use a VPN.
It's not impossible for someone to track you when using a VPN, but it makes it much, much harder
VPNs are not a solution to internet privacy issues, you have things like browser fingerprints, unique identifiers and more. You also have the problem of VPNs being compromised or just selling your data. Using the Tor browser would be a much better alternative for web browsing in my opinion.
TOR plus a VPN that is not within Five Eyes or Nine Eyes and doesn't keep any logs. Fourteen Eyes VPNs are there as well but they're better than nothing.
The government can track your internet usage through download and upload speeds via TOR and can figure out relatively what you've been doing on it. Maybe not exact web pages, but they can know what you upload or download.
Generally speaking, we don't recommend using a VPN with Tor unless you're an advanced user who knows how to configure both in a way that doesn't compromise your privacy.


You can find more detailed information about Tor + VPN at our wiki.

In my opinion I don't see much reason to use Tor + VPN for just sasu. I'd only consider it if you were doing something very illegal. I don't see the point for anyone to put enough resources to de-anonymize your Tor usage just for wanting to CTB. Most people get caught from saying too much or making other OPSEC mistakes unrelated to Tor.
 
Alltheywanted

Alltheywanted

Nobody knows what I see
Mar 6, 2023
331
If they do monitor my activity, I can't do anything about it. I mean I can but It would take much more effort than I'm willing to spend on writing things on the internet. Even if they fuck my life more than it is right now, I will be ready to CTB. I just need a rope, a door handle and I'm gone ;3
 
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Unicr0n

Unicr0n

Stuck in a black hole...
Mar 26, 2024
259
In my opinion I don't see much reason to use Tor + VPN for just sasu. I'd only consider it if you were doing something very illegal. I don't see the point for anyone to put enough resources to de-anonymize your Tor usage just for wanting to CTB. Most people get caught from saying too much or making other OPSEC mistakes unrelated to Tor.
That's only if you really want to avoid being tracked if it's illegal in your country to even consider suicide. Some parents are ridiculously controlling and will put you in a mental institution if they find out you are contemplating [especially religious ones]. Most people don't need it, yeah.
 
cinderdust

cinderdust

aspiring an hero
Apr 27, 2024
14
Don't know what country you're in but unless you're trading CSAM, selling drugs, or sharing government secrets the FBI probably couldn't give less of a shit about what you do online. Don't be stupid and share delicate personal information with strangers, an extra security layer or two like VPN or TOR is nice but not required. There's prob. agents here but the idea that they're hyperanalyzing the activity of random Joe Schmoe #26485 for maybe posing a risk to themselves alone is laughable.
 
Ambivalent1

Ambivalent1

🎵 Be all, end all 🎵
Apr 17, 2023
3,279
The Galactic federation knows all 🎢
 
halleyscomet

halleyscomet

halley
Mar 26, 2024
307
I couldn't care less if someone tracks my activity, I have nothing to hide. Besides what are they going to do arrest me for being suicidal? They can't section me really because there isn't enough beds. So what are they going do to me exactly? lol
 
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Asleepatlast

Student
Sep 12, 2024
119
There are several things you can do to protect your privacy.
(1) Clear all cookies every time you close your browser. (You should be able to make this automatic, using your browser settings.) Those alerts you got may have been made possible by cookies.
(2) Access SaSu using a good VPN (such as proton), or Tor. (Tor can be slow, so for most people a good VPN is more practical.)
(3) If you want to remove all traces of your browsing history, run software that will securely wipe files. (East Tec Eraser is good. Run it regularly, e.g. weekly.) Just deleting your browser history isn't enough, though it will defeat any casual snooper who may have access to your machine.
(4) If you are really paranoid, boot to a live OS that prioritises privacy, such as Tails, and only access the interent using Tor after switching off javascript. (You probably don't need to be that paranoid.)
What exactly could happen? What is the concern wit the police?
 
KOMM

KOMM

Member
Feb 4, 2024
18
I'm afraid that they'll find out who I am, and my relatives will find out about my suicidal tendencies.
 

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